I bought my MBP (new of course) but it shipped with Panther installed, but a Leopard installation disc was included because Leopard was released at the same time I bought the computer.

So when did iLife begin to be included with purchases of Apple Computers? Was it during the Leopard life cycle or Panther?

 

^^You mean your MBP came with Tiger (10.4), right? Your iLife '07 or 08 applications should be on your Tiger system disk. You'd need to do a custom install from that disk and select only "bundled applications" or "reinstall bundled applications". That's how it was when I upgraded my Tiger-based first generation MBP to Leopard with a clean install.

 

You mean Tiger (10.4) instead of Panther (10.3). They've done it as far back as I can remember. I know tiger was the same way and I'm pretty sure panther was too.

 

I think you're right the disc with Snow Leopard that comes with new macs should have iLife on it as well.

 

yea, tiger. 10.4

 

So far so good with Snow Leopard on my Rev. A MBA. I had ~25gb free on my 64gb SSD and after SL install it went up to 34.29gb free. Nice gain. It took a long ass time to install though - no thanks to remote disk.

I feel it's running hotter and the fan is coming on more easily than with Leopard. Not sure if it's just my imagination or what. Oh, and yesterday evening the wifi didn't work when coming out of sleep. I had to reboot, but after that it hasn't happened again.

 

Fawk, I got a bad DVD. Installer complains that it can't read the disk. Looks like a good amount of people complaining about it online.

 

There is an open discussion and ticket about fans going faster/hotter with SL. So, you're not the first. You can find a lot of the issues (battery life dwindling, faster fans, etc.) on the APple Discussion Forums.

 

gonna do a clean format and install now

 

Seems like a few (maybe even half) of you are having issues. I'd probably recommend that you wait until at least 10.6.1 or 10.6.2. It's not liking your missing out on anything really, you won't experience the best of SL until developers starting making better apps for it and that's gonna be a while. Seems like upgrading now may cause more trouble than it's worth.

 

I'm baaaack. gotta love my mobileme subscription, type in the account, and all that shit just syncs right back.

 

Well I've got a problem, when I close the lid of my macbook, it sleeps for about 2 seconds, then it cycles between sleep and wake while the lid is closed on it's own. I can hear the dvd drive make the looking for disk noise, and the back of the case illuminates because the screen is coming on. BALLS I have to turn the computer off or keep the lid open to stop it. I'm yet to see anything on the support forums, but I submitted a thing to Apple.

 

Get a PC.


There. I said it. :tonguefaw

 

have 2 now

 

 

I'll admit that I haven't gone to read any of the forums, but with SL taking advantage of all the CPU cores and the GPU whenever it can, why wouldn't you expect it to cause a machine to run hotter and drain a battery faster?

Now if you want to argue there should have been a "high efficiency mode" or something similar that's fine. But that's a missing feature argument not really a technical flaw or bug with the OS.

 

Still no issues here.

 

hmmmm, if I go to the apple menu and select sleep it doesn't work either. I wonder if this has anything to do with my aftermarket battery.

 

hmmm looks like it has everything to do with my bluetooth not being recognized.

 

The bluetooth radio in your Mac or your bluetooth device (phone, earpiece)?

 

In my mac, it doesn't even appear in system profiler, it appears it has screwed the pooch. Looking on the apple forums it seems quite common of a problem. Bad news is there's shitty fixes, apparently replacing the board doesn't work all the time, and sometimes the logic board needs to be replaced too. However people have had success with just buying a dongle and leaving it in the USB port.

 

If it's taking advantage of the CPU and GPU it should be more efficient and therefore use less power which means less heat and fans spinning. SL is to be the equivalent of adding intake, header, and exhaust to your car. It's supposed to make your engine (mac) more efficient, so peoples MPG (battery life) and HP (inverse relation to fan speed) should not decrease after upgrading to SL.

 

I'd downgrade back to leopard

 

It was already acting wonky in leopard, but would generally go to sleep after a cycle or 2. I might be able to turn up a free bt card from a friend so I'll pursue that first.

 

No issues for me thus far. Lovin' every second of it.

 

you did a clean install and it doesn't work? and it didn't work in leopard? Are you have the same problems in SL that you had in 10.5? If so then it's probably a hardware issue. Have you looked in console to see if it's giving any errors when you try to use the BT radio?

 

I'm not advanced enough to use console. BT was working intermittently at best though in 10.5. And the coming in and out of sleep did happen a few times in 10.5 but it would usually only happen once or twice then sleep. Weird as I type this the BT icon has reappeared in the menu bar. hmmmmmm plot thickens I guess, earlier BT was totally gone, not even appearing in system profiler, which it still doesn't now, but it's back on the menu bar with the line through it.

edit: Fyi I did the SMU reset and the other one, crtl+option+P+r with no change. BT came back after I was on battery power and drained it fully and let it sit for 10 hours.

 

repair disk permissions in disk utility?

Console isn't hard it's just a program that keeps track of all the little things that go on in the background. So when you connect a device it'll show up in there and it'll say what it's doing and if it fails it will say so. I was messing around in console today because for some reason my dad's 3gs won't tether to his macbook but it tethers to my PC and my mom's mac and it tethers to his macbook when he's running Vista in bootcamp. The iphone works with iPhoto and iTunes but won't tether. So I was messing around to see what happens in console when I plug it in and I was seeing info about aquiring a network MAC address for the new network interface (the iPhone) and then I was getting failure messages for certain things.

So what you do is when you see something happen with your BT radio icon look and see what time it is then open console and make sure you're viewing all messages browse to that time (it should be there already) and look around for bluetooth and see if you see anything about failing, etc. then if you see a message that indicates failure then click on it hit cmd+ c to copy it and then paste it into google (be sure to remove the date and time before searching though) and see if it turns up anything.

 

Can snow leopard be installed on a netbook yet?

 

found my first caveat...

was opening MS Word...said I needed to install Rosetta to open it....guess I'll just use Pages until a patch comes out.

Of course its a MS product that is my only fubar.

 

Is that the 2004 or 2008 version? I know 2004 needs it and I thought I heard that some parts of 2008 might need it still also.

 

i've hit a couple of glitches relating to the flip4mac windows media plug in. i hear they have a beta that works though

logitech control center for my mouse doesn't work. the mouse works fine, but i had expose and a couple other things toggled to the additional buttons, which don't work now.

i had a startup script to compensate for a bug in leopard that would sometimes have the clock set incorrectly after using windows on my bootcamp partition. it pops up with the whole rosetta thing at startup now. i've been trying to disable it at startup, but haven't tested it yet

 

2008

 

^^Just to ask the obvious, are you fully patched to v12.2.1?

 

I bet there were some parts that required rosetta and MS felt it wasn't worth porting them over just then and it wasn't a big deal in leopard since rosetta came installed and was started silently in the background. Now that it's not included it can be slightly annoying the first time.

 

I don't need my MBP running any hotter than it already does. It burns my legs after long periods of time on my lap...

 

Works just fine for me.

 

It didnt tell you it needed rosetta? mine does.

 

I'm still using 2004. Works fine with Rosetta. Doesn't run any slower than it did before.

 

Yeah, I just dont really WANT to install rosetta if I dont have to.