www.microsoft.com/getthefacts

opinions? I realize this is more a comparison of larger companies, and only for win server 2003, but the results are not what I expected

 

I'm sure the same type of information could be found saying that Linux is better than Windows. It'd help if this information wasn't being pointed to from Microsoft's domain.

 

:P why not find a 3rd party write-up on it and post it. What you posted is MARKETING propaganda from Microsoft.

From a desktop perspective it's one thing. But from a server perspective there is no comparsion.

They leave out a ton of real world facts in that writeup. I'm not even going to get into it...

 

from what i understand ALL the studies are from 3rd party research groups

 

Do some searches on slashdot.org and google. It's too large of a subject to discuss as a whole. I can tell you what you read was paid for marking BS though.

Anyone with real work experience in the IS/IT industry would not agree with most of whats said in those articles...

One of the MAJOR things left out on that discussing is "high availability" on MS servers. If one goes down what does it cost you? Licensing? Cost of maintenance...

If you do some searches you'll see tons of discussion on this subject...

 

This is definately not something anyone should read an agree with. M$ had their top level engineers spec out the machine and alter the OS to run perfectly. Did they get someone who knows the linux kernel inside out and have it tuned for the hardware...most likely not.

I did read that there is a significant improvement with running W2k3 and SQL 2k on a server compared to running W2k and SQL 2k on the same hardware. Disk I/O was dramatically increased, probably from the use of someone else's technology.

 

HA on M$ is more than it is worth. We have been down two days for hardware failures and it was still cheaper than doing HA with M$ licensing. We have to use M$ for this one product and have no choice.

 

Please, that article is TRASH.

I spent 7 years integrating Microsoft products they are scumbags. They wanted us to secretly list and count all of the linux we ran into in the field for analysis.

 

Because we can trust Microsoft to be impartial on this, right? :gheylaugh:

 

Well they are definitely partial but they do some things well:

1. Everyone knows the basic layout - makes programs much easier to learn.
2. Their development environment rocks.
3. They are well supported, i am a Windows Admin, and our UNIX Guy spends most of his day on the phone with HP, SUN, etc... meanwhile i mostly work with the development department now because the network never goes down, unless i am dealing with our linux VPNs, which are always giving me trouble..

But linux is more secure, and you can do some cool things that you can't with windows.

 

Actually, I've been working with Microsoft resources on and off the past few years and found most to be very supportive, professional and overall it's been a positive experience. I guess it depends on who you end up working with. But to call an entire company made up of tens of thousands of people scumbags is misleading

 

to each is own i guess

have people that had bad experience in their business tried win server 2003? Not trying to advertise, but it is incredibly solid...we run performance and stress tests on win servers for months on full load, and they are just incredible...a little expensive for the enterprise licence though

 

I worked for a company that earned the highest rewards from big blue. The whole company is not trash, their corporate sales and tactics are.

 

#3 is very subjective...

"the network never goes down" umm, the switches? routers? patch system? NICS? Hardware? CSU/DSU? that's a broad statement to make.

What software are you running on the HP/SUN servers? there's way too many varibales to make the statement you did about them being on the phone. Is it old hardware? do you even know if the hardware is up to date since your a MS guy. Does the software load it's own buggy kernel drivers? ...

Linux VPN? what are you trying to say you have some linux machines on a layer 2 network?!?!?

anyway, unless your an admin of both you shouldn't be commenting on things like this... it is very misleading to folks who do realize they don't know what the are talking about.

Some cool things you can do with windows? I'm not even going to go down the why they attempted to make a Server O/S with GUI calls in the Kernel. And to then continue on to the crappy threading winblows does.

The MS people are very shady as far as a business practice goes, but their tech suppot is very good. But you should get something for paying all that $$$.

 

"get the facts" from Microsoft.... can I get an "oxymoron" up in here??