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Old 03-05-2008, 02:35 PM
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Internet Explorer 8 Beta 1 Avail For Download

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...ss/Install.htm

Hey whiskers can you tell me how you got the RTM version of Vista SP1? I can't install IE8 cause I'm still running a pre release version of SP1.
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Ok, Installed IE 8...Why is everything on the right....
Old 03-05-2008, 03:32 PM
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Is that the slipstreamed SP1 iso or is that just the standalone installer? I'm downloading the ISO right now both x86 and x64.

can you post a screenshot of IE8 cause I can't install it and hoave no idea what it looks like.
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who the F uses IE?
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who the F uses IE?
People that don't care about using better technology and just use whatever came with their machine.

There are still applications out there that are built specifically for IE which is flat out stupid IMO. Especially these days when many people have switched to FireFox.

We have applications here at JPL where some work only in netscape, some only in IE, some that behave differently in all three browsers.

It's a friggin' nightmare.
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Originally Posted by CLpower
who the F uses IE?
About 70-80% of the internet?
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
About 70-80% of the internet?


where did you pull that stat from. My companies analytics from last month show around 50-60%



this information confirms what we find:

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
Old 03-05-2008, 05:26 PM
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IE still rules the roost in most of the business world. None of the other browsers can give the fine-grained centralized admin control that Microsoft provides. Doesn't mean much about how good it actually is as a browser though.
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
About 70-80% of the internet?
It's actually lower and continues to drop.

http://www.e-janco.com/browser.htm

Many studies have been done with different numbers, some say higher, some say lower, but they all show that IE has been dropping since Microcrap said they were done with IE6. When Firefox started taking away microsofts market share they said, oops, we aren't as good as we thought, and so came out with IE7.
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Originally Posted by Billiam
IE still rules the roost in most of the business world. None of the other browsers can give the fine-grained centralized admin control that Microsoft provides. Doesn't mean much about how good it actually is as a browser though.


we have a site here that continues to plague us and doesn't work in firefox or IE. what do you ask we have to use? Netscape 7.2.
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if the rumors about FF3 being as good as they speculate it will be in terms of speed and trimming the fat on the browser, it could give FF a small jump ahead it needs.
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
if the rumors about FF3 being as good as they speculate it will be in terms of speed and trimming the fat on the browser, it could give FF a small jump ahead it needs.
i wish FF would fix the damn memory issue.

i can understand it using like 100+mb of memory when i have multiple tabs open, but when i close all the tabs and goto a site like google, why the hell is it still using 100mb.
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
if the rumors about FF3 being as good as they speculate it will be in terms of speed and trimming the fat on the browser, it could give FF a small jump ahead it needs.
Trim the fat on FF 3!!!
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we have a site here that continues to plague us and doesn't work in firefox or IE. what do you ask we have to use? Netscape 7.2.
I could have swore I just read that there will be no more Netscape.
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So far I have been able to avoid IE7. So I see no need for this
Old 03-05-2008, 07:43 PM
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You can't avoid it if you use Windows, you have to use it to d/l FF.
Old 03-05-2008, 08:10 PM
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One thing that sucks about FF is the dictionary. The one that Google has in the toolbar for IE blows FF's away. It can't even tell that toolbar is ONE word.
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Tabbed browsing and now a favorites bar they have caught up to FF now..
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IE is so integrated that it's fast.. works fine for me.
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i try to avoid IE, i do have the IE app on my firefox for the cases i have to switch over quickly on a web page to use it or sign in for work purposes bc those websites don't appear on firefox.

i am now pissed that our new website we have to use IE and not firefox access the cooperate page.....
Old 03-05-2008, 09:30 PM
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it doesn't seem to mesh w/ google toolbar. it crashed everytime for me.
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Originally Posted by CLpower
where did you pull that stat from. My companies analytics from last month show around 50-60%



this information confirms what we find:

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
Originally Posted by Computer World on March 3, 2008
IE accounted for 74.9% of the browsers used last month
http://www.computerworld.com/action/...&intsrc=kc_top
Old 03-06-2008, 12:35 AM
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IE is horrid to use...I've Reformatted my laptop and desktop and IE still takes about a minute and a half to load. FF only takes a few seconds.
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
I could have swore I just read that there will be no more Netscape.
There isn't! So you see the problem now?
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If I ever need to use IE for testing, i use the "IE Tab" extension in FireFox.
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hey I'm curious if any of you guys are also having trouble passing the Acid2 test with IE 8.
To take the test go to acid2.acidtests.org

If you past the test the image you see should look like this


when I do it in IE 8 with Vista it looks like this instead



MS claims that IE 8 passes the Acid2 test so IDK what's the deal.

On a side note the Acid 3 test just came out and you can test that too if you want but currently there isn't a browser that passes it.

acid3.acidtests.org

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Originally Posted by CLpower
who the F uses IE?
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

everyone but azine users...

when i saw those stats in one of my classes i was
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hey I'm curious if any of you guys are also having trouble passing the Acid2 test with IE 8.
To take the test go to acid2.acidtests.org

If you past the test the image you see should look like this


when I do it in IE 8 with Vista it looks like this instead



MS claims that IE 8 passes the Acid2 test so IDK what's the deal.

On a side note the Acid 3 test just came out and you can test that too if you want but currently there isn't a browser that passes it.

acid3.acidtests.org
mozilla using vista passes neither
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Which version of FF are you using? I just tried it in FF 3.0 beta 3 and it passed acid2.
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got 3, passes 2 but not 3...

ill stick w/ firefox, nice try microsoft...
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
Is that the slipstreamed SP1 iso or is that just the standalone installer? I'm downloading the ISO right now both x86 and x64.

can you post a screenshot of IE8 cause I can't install it and hoave no idea what it looks like.

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My god, isn't the whole browser war over with yet....If it wasn't for Microsoft, we would still have to buy a browser....
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
i wish FF would fix the damn memory issue.

i can understand it using like 100+mb of memory when i have multiple tabs open, but when i close all the tabs and goto a site like google, why the hell is it still using 100mb.
Do a search on Firefox hacks. You should get plenty of results. Here's one I found: http://www.hackaday.com/2004/12/26/speed-up-firefox/ There's a lot of different ones that are available.
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Originally Posted by CLpower
who the F uses IE?
Firefox = , IE =
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IE user

i used firefox before.. and i dont see what the big deal bout FF is.
skins... hacks.... kinda pointless.

never had a problem with IE before


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