HP/Palm Devices: Veer, Pre 3 and Touchpad
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Yeah I love the TouchPad.
I've also swapped the comm boards from my original Pre and put it in a Verizon Pre 2, so I get the updated hardware and still retain the cheap Sprint rates. It pays for itself in a few months alone.
I've also swapped the comm boards from my original Pre and put it in a Verizon Pre 2, so I get the updated hardware and still retain the cheap Sprint rates. It pays for itself in a few months alone.
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HP's webOS Reportedly Runs Significantly Faster on iPad 2 Than on TouchPad
Aug 19, 2011 7:33 am PDT by Eric Slivka
HP's startling disclosure yesterday that it is looking into a sale or spinoff of its PC business and is discontinuing its webOS-based hardware program has sent shock waves through the industry. One of the more curious aspects of the move is HP's plans for webOS, the company's mobile operating system that it obtained with last year's $1.2 billion purchase of Palm and relaunched on new Pre smartphones and the TouchPad tablet just months ago.
According to This is my next..., HP informed its webOS team during an all-hands meeting yesterday that it remains committed to the platform, although it is unclear exactly how the company will look to capitalize on it, whether through potential licensing or other means.
In the meeting, webOS GBU VP Stephen DeWitt made it clear that HP intends to continue to work on webOS and likely intends to license it. DeWitt was adamant, saying several times “We are not walking away from webOS.” He detailed a plan to try to determine what the platform’s future will look like within the next two weeks, although he admitted that “Clearly, we don’t have all the answers today.”
HP executive Todd Bradley noted that with webOS currently designed to work only on Qualcomm-based hardware, potential licensees would most likely be interested in seeing webOS modified to run on other chipsets if HP were to pursue that route.
But many have questioned whether HP will even be able to license webOS to third parties, given that neither Palm nor HP has been able to gain consumer traction with the platform. For its part, HP claims that it sees promise in the software that has been hampered by poor hardware.
On that note, The Next Web reports that HP engineers had gone as far as to test webOS running on an iPad, finding that the operating system ran "over twice as fast" on the iPad 2 as it did on the TouchPad for which it had been designed. Even running as a web app within the iPad 2's Safari browser yielded substantially better performance than on the TouchPad.
The hardware reportedly stopped the team from innovating beyond certain points because it was slow and imposed constraints, which was highlighted when webOS was loaded on to Apple’s iPad device and found to run the platform significantly faster than the device for which it was originally developed.
With a focus on web technologies, webOS could be deployed in the iPad’s Mobile Safari browser as a web-app; this produced similar results, with it running many times faster in the browser than it did on the TouchPad.
The report notes that the TouchPad hardware had essentially already been designed when HP acquired Palm last year, with the engineers tasked with getting webOS running on the existing design. The resulting handicap of outdated hardware reportedly crippled the webOS team's ability to innovate for the tablet platform and ultimately led to the poor market reception.
Regardless of the reasons, the TouchPad clearly did not take off as HP had hoped, and the company quickly pulled the plug on the project as part of its dramatic shift in business focus. The shift leaves the future of webOS unsettled, and while speculation has centered around whether a company like Amazon might be interested in acquiring it for its own use, others have suggested that HP might be better off simply selling off the patent portfolio associated with web OS, a move that could actually result in a profit relative to the company's $1.2 billion acquisition price for Palm.
HP's webOS Reportedly Runs Significantly Faster on iPad 2 Than on TouchPad
Aug 19, 2011 7:33 am PDT by Eric Slivka
HP's startling disclosure yesterday that it is looking into a sale or spinoff of its PC business and is discontinuing its webOS-based hardware program has sent shock waves through the industry. One of the more curious aspects of the move is HP's plans for webOS, the company's mobile operating system that it obtained with last year's $1.2 billion purchase of Palm and relaunched on new Pre smartphones and the TouchPad tablet just months ago.
According to This is my next..., HP informed its webOS team during an all-hands meeting yesterday that it remains committed to the platform, although it is unclear exactly how the company will look to capitalize on it, whether through potential licensing or other means.
In the meeting, webOS GBU VP Stephen DeWitt made it clear that HP intends to continue to work on webOS and likely intends to license it. DeWitt was adamant, saying several times “We are not walking away from webOS.” He detailed a plan to try to determine what the platform’s future will look like within the next two weeks, although he admitted that “Clearly, we don’t have all the answers today.”
HP executive Todd Bradley noted that with webOS currently designed to work only on Qualcomm-based hardware, potential licensees would most likely be interested in seeing webOS modified to run on other chipsets if HP were to pursue that route.
But many have questioned whether HP will even be able to license webOS to third parties, given that neither Palm nor HP has been able to gain consumer traction with the platform. For its part, HP claims that it sees promise in the software that has been hampered by poor hardware.
On that note, The Next Web reports that HP engineers had gone as far as to test webOS running on an iPad, finding that the operating system ran "over twice as fast" on the iPad 2 as it did on the TouchPad for which it had been designed. Even running as a web app within the iPad 2's Safari browser yielded substantially better performance than on the TouchPad.
The hardware reportedly stopped the team from innovating beyond certain points because it was slow and imposed constraints, which was highlighted when webOS was loaded on to Apple’s iPad device and found to run the platform significantly faster than the device for which it was originally developed.
With a focus on web technologies, webOS could be deployed in the iPad’s Mobile Safari browser as a web-app; this produced similar results, with it running many times faster in the browser than it did on the TouchPad.
The report notes that the TouchPad hardware had essentially already been designed when HP acquired Palm last year, with the engineers tasked with getting webOS running on the existing design. The resulting handicap of outdated hardware reportedly crippled the webOS team's ability to innovate for the tablet platform and ultimately led to the poor market reception.
Regardless of the reasons, the TouchPad clearly did not take off as HP had hoped, and the company quickly pulled the plug on the project as part of its dramatic shift in business focus. The shift leaves the future of webOS unsettled, and while speculation has centered around whether a company like Amazon might be interested in acquiring it for its own use, others have suggested that HP might be better off simply selling off the patent portfolio associated with web OS, a move that could actually result in a profit relative to the company's $1.2 billion acquisition price for Palm.
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Mizouse, that article is a load of crap and has been debunked several times today. The main issue was the Touchpad's UI was not hardware accelerated. Homebrew has already done so. Sad that volunteer geeks can do what HP and its billions cannot.
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That was quick. I was expecting a firesale but not this quickly. lol. I feel bad for the early adopters who paid $600 + accessories on this. Although I'm hearing some people are getting HP to refund some of what they paid by calling in. For $100 I wouldn't mind picking one up just to use for browsing the internet.
i picked up 5 of them 16gb models
heres the link
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3220862
heres the link
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3220862
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Yep, I bought one on launch day. I suppose I could try to 'get my money back' but I honestly am still happy with mine. I'm not happy with HP...
RIP Palm
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the price still says $399 for me.
either way, BB should have some for a while.
According to one source who has seen internal HP reports, Best Buy has taken delivery of 270,000 TouchPads and has so far managed to sell only 25,000, or less than 10 percent of the units in its inventory.
No need to clear your browsing data. Just use Chrome's Incognito window feature (Control+Shift+N) or Internet Explorer's InPrivate Browsing feature.
16gb OSS 8:15PST HURRY UP PPL GET 32GB
I got email confirmations for some of my orders placed on HP.COM via HPA method.
COUPON CODES
TARGET IS LIVE:
http://www.target.com/s?keywords=..._1&x=0&y=0
$30 off $150 - use coupon code SAVE30HP (for 32GB model add a cheap filler such as paper [hp.com] and order them one at a time)
$15 off $75 - use coupon code SAVE15HP
don't forget to get free webOS apps and games @ webOSbuzz ! [webosbuzz.com]
Quote from ragingazn628 :
THIS IS LIVE!
Alright this worked for me. I bought 1. So please use this if you aren't going to buy like 30+
COUPON CODES
$30 off $150 - use coupon code SAVE30HP (for 32GB model add a cheap filler such as paper [hp.com] and order them one at a time)
$15 off $75 - use coupon code SAVE15HP
FIRST MAKE SURE YOU DELETE ALL COOKIES AND CLEAR CACHE WITH CCLEANER OR OTHER PROGRAMS!
Google Chrome works best for me! (Firefox and Opera LAGGED and TIMED OUT!)
1. Go to https://www.shopping.hp.com/webap...ter_epp.do
2. Use 2727 as code.
3. Register with any email.
4. After finished registering, close the final page/ tab
5. Click the product link in the first original post of this thread and price will change.
6. Add to cart and check out.
DO NOT USE PAYPAL! For some reason it did NOT work for me. I used Visa
*PayPal worked for me, $90.09 after coupon+tax.
From VoodooVyper View Post :
There's a trick to it.
Enter your EPP site/HP Academy.
Click tablets will show original price... instead, click the HP logo at top left, it'll bring you to the main intro site.
From there, click Shop for Products and services and follow the tablet trail, and you will see the adjusted prices.
This Actually Works!!
Enjoy!
^This works, just got one for $90.81 after tax!
LIVE with .EDU! Google HP Academic Purchase Program! GET IT!
^Don't need to have a .EDU, you can be an alumni with a .COM and it will work!
another helpful tip, if still having trouble after using VoodooVyper method:
login to HP account (mine was Academic)
search for "webos promo"
this should bring up links for the 16 gig Touchpad @ 399 and the Veer, clicking on the Touchpad link will show the $99 dollar price
Corporate Perks EPP (available to anyone).
https://www.shopping.hp.com/webap...ter_epp.do
Signup for a new EPP account using company code: EP4297
Purchase 32 GB for $149.99 (must use these links):
http://www.shopping.hp.com/store/...UA%2523ABA
Palm Pre 2 Unlocked GSM $49.99:
http://www.shopping.hp.com/store/...AA%2523ABA
16 GB Touchpad $99 (MUST USE GOOGLE CHROME and login in to EPP to get price):
http://www.shopping.hp.com/produc...UA%2523ABA
Several Sources say it begins 7 a.m. EST on Aug 20
Don't Forget Chase/Discover Mall card 4%+ cashback!
Cashback goes up to 6%. Find your favorite using the link below.
www.urlhasbeenblocked.com
THIS CAN PLAY HULU WEBSITE (FLASH) BUT NOT NETFLIX (MICROSOFT SILVERLIGHT). IT HAS NO NATIVE NETFLIX APP.
HP is going out of business of creating HARDWARE not SOFTWARE. webOS as a software is still an unknown at this moment. As the statement goes:
Quote :
In addition, HP reported that it plans to announce that it will discontinue operations for webOS devices, specifically the TouchPad and webOS phones. HP will continue to explore options to optimize the value of webOS software going forward.
webOS will still have support, devices may not. HP is already in talks with other manufacturers about licensing webOS as mentioned by Stephen DeWitt from HP.
http://www.webosbuzz.com/general-...l#post4892
Notable specs: 10.1" 1024x768 IPS screen, 1.2ghz Snapdragon dual-core
FOR ALL OF YOU WHO ARE NOT SEEING THE LOW PRICE SHOW UP EVEN THOUGH YOU'VE LOGGED IN THROUGH ACADEMIC OR EPP - AFTER YOU ARE LOGGED IN, THEN CLICK THE LINK IN THE ORIGINAL POST!!!! DO NOT SEARCH THE HP WEBSITE FOR "TOUCHPAD"
CLEAR YOUR COOKIES AND CART, IF THE PRICE IS NOT SHOWING
Reviews:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/29/hp-touchpad-review/
http://gizmodo.com/5816916/hp-touchp...break-my-heart
http://www.anandtech.com/print/4508
Another confirmation about its death...
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente...e_hp_touchpad_ and_webos.html
Futureshop (owned by BBY) in Canada already dropped the price:
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/produ...8a052fd3272bd0 5en02
webOS apps and games! [webosbuzz.com]
REP HAS SAID TO ORDER THROUGH PHONE RIGHT NOW AND THEY CAN APPLY THE CREDIT BACK
Already $99 at Best Buy Canada
http://www.bestbuy.ca/Search/SearchR...91fe414314b86b b581f8en20&q=touchpad&sp=BBY_en-CA_Site-WideSP&Category=Entire%2520Site&targetCategory=Ent ire%2520Site&pcname=MCCPCatalog&AllowSecure=True
NOTE: AMAZON DOES NOT PRICE ADJUST, UNLESS IT IS A TV!!
Attached screenshot to show that it IS live for some of us. Screenshot is for the 32 gb and shows a price of 149.99. I'm in Florida and am part of HP Academy. Not sure if that is why.
It was reported that Best Buy alone had about a quarter million unsold TouchPads. So there is probably no rush if you really want one.
http://allthingsd.com/20110816/ou...p-tablets/
Amazon has it for $100 now but with 12.99 shipping.. sold by target
http://www.amazon.com/HP-TouchPad...2&sr =1-3
16gb OSS 8:15PST HURRY UP PPL GET 32GB
I got email confirmations for some of my orders placed on HP.COM via HPA method.
COUPON CODES
TARGET IS LIVE:
http://www.target.com/s?keywords=..._1&x=0&y=0
$30 off $150 - use coupon code SAVE30HP (for 32GB model add a cheap filler such as paper [hp.com] and order them one at a time)
$15 off $75 - use coupon code SAVE15HP
don't forget to get free webOS apps and games @ webOSbuzz ! [webosbuzz.com]
Quote from ragingazn628 :
THIS IS LIVE!
Alright this worked for me. I bought 1. So please use this if you aren't going to buy like 30+
COUPON CODES
$30 off $150 - use coupon code SAVE30HP (for 32GB model add a cheap filler such as paper [hp.com] and order them one at a time)
$15 off $75 - use coupon code SAVE15HP
FIRST MAKE SURE YOU DELETE ALL COOKIES AND CLEAR CACHE WITH CCLEANER OR OTHER PROGRAMS!
Google Chrome works best for me! (Firefox and Opera LAGGED and TIMED OUT!)
1. Go to https://www.shopping.hp.com/webap...ter_epp.do
2. Use 2727 as code.
3. Register with any email.
4. After finished registering, close the final page/ tab
5. Click the product link in the first original post of this thread and price will change.
6. Add to cart and check out.
DO NOT USE PAYPAL! For some reason it did NOT work for me. I used Visa
*PayPal worked for me, $90.09 after coupon+tax.
From VoodooVyper View Post :
There's a trick to it.
Enter your EPP site/HP Academy.
Click tablets will show original price... instead, click the HP logo at top left, it'll bring you to the main intro site.
From there, click Shop for Products and services and follow the tablet trail, and you will see the adjusted prices.
This Actually Works!!
Enjoy!
^This works, just got one for $90.81 after tax!
LIVE with .EDU! Google HP Academic Purchase Program! GET IT!
^Don't need to have a .EDU, you can be an alumni with a .COM and it will work!
another helpful tip, if still having trouble after using VoodooVyper method:
login to HP account (mine was Academic)
search for "webos promo"
this should bring up links for the 16 gig Touchpad @ 399 and the Veer, clicking on the Touchpad link will show the $99 dollar price
Corporate Perks EPP (available to anyone).
https://www.shopping.hp.com/webap...ter_epp.do
Signup for a new EPP account using company code: EP4297
Purchase 32 GB for $149.99 (must use these links):
http://www.shopping.hp.com/store/...UA%2523ABA
Palm Pre 2 Unlocked GSM $49.99:
http://www.shopping.hp.com/store/...AA%2523ABA
16 GB Touchpad $99 (MUST USE GOOGLE CHROME and login in to EPP to get price):
http://www.shopping.hp.com/produc...UA%2523ABA
Several Sources say it begins 7 a.m. EST on Aug 20
Don't Forget Chase/Discover Mall card 4%+ cashback!
Cashback goes up to 6%. Find your favorite using the link below.
www.urlhasbeenblocked.com
THIS CAN PLAY HULU WEBSITE (FLASH) BUT NOT NETFLIX (MICROSOFT SILVERLIGHT). IT HAS NO NATIVE NETFLIX APP.
HP is going out of business of creating HARDWARE not SOFTWARE. webOS as a software is still an unknown at this moment. As the statement goes:
Quote :
In addition, HP reported that it plans to announce that it will discontinue operations for webOS devices, specifically the TouchPad and webOS phones. HP will continue to explore options to optimize the value of webOS software going forward.
webOS will still have support, devices may not. HP is already in talks with other manufacturers about licensing webOS as mentioned by Stephen DeWitt from HP.
http://www.webosbuzz.com/general-...l#post4892
Notable specs: 10.1" 1024x768 IPS screen, 1.2ghz Snapdragon dual-core
FOR ALL OF YOU WHO ARE NOT SEEING THE LOW PRICE SHOW UP EVEN THOUGH YOU'VE LOGGED IN THROUGH ACADEMIC OR EPP - AFTER YOU ARE LOGGED IN, THEN CLICK THE LINK IN THE ORIGINAL POST!!!! DO NOT SEARCH THE HP WEBSITE FOR "TOUCHPAD"
CLEAR YOUR COOKIES AND CART, IF THE PRICE IS NOT SHOWING
Reviews:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/29/hp-touchpad-review/
http://gizmodo.com/5816916/hp-touchp...break-my-heart
http://www.anandtech.com/print/4508
Another confirmation about its death...
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente...e_hp_touchpad_ and_webos.html
Futureshop (owned by BBY) in Canada already dropped the price:
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/produ...8a052fd3272bd0 5en02
webOS apps and games! [webosbuzz.com]
REP HAS SAID TO ORDER THROUGH PHONE RIGHT NOW AND THEY CAN APPLY THE CREDIT BACK
Already $99 at Best Buy Canada
http://www.bestbuy.ca/Search/SearchR...91fe414314b86b b581f8en20&q=touchpad&sp=BBY_en-CA_Site-WideSP&Category=Entire%2520Site&targetCategory=Ent ire%2520Site&pcname=MCCPCatalog&AllowSecure=True
NOTE: AMAZON DOES NOT PRICE ADJUST, UNLESS IT IS A TV!!
Attached screenshot to show that it IS live for some of us. Screenshot is for the 32 gb and shows a price of 149.99. I'm in Florida and am part of HP Academy. Not sure if that is why.
It was reported that Best Buy alone had about a quarter million unsold TouchPads. So there is probably no rush if you really want one.
http://allthingsd.com/20110816/ou...p-tablets/
Amazon has it for $100 now but with 12.99 shipping.. sold by target
http://www.amazon.com/HP-TouchPad...2&sr =1-3
let me shortin it for u guys
Corporate Perks EPP (available to anyone).
https://www.shopping.hp.com/webap...ter_epp.do
Signup for a new EPP account using company code: EP4297
Purchase 32 GB for $149.99 (must use these links):
http://www.shopping.hp.com/store/...UA%2523ABA
Palm Pre 2 Unlocked GSM $49.99:
http://www.shopping.hp.com/store/...AA%2523ABA
16 GB Touchpad $99 (MUST USE GOOGLE CHROME and login in to EPP to get price):
http://www.shopping.hp.com/produc...UA%2523ABA
Corporate Perks EPP (available to anyone).
https://www.shopping.hp.com/webap...ter_epp.do
Signup for a new EPP account using company code: EP4297
Purchase 32 GB for $149.99 (must use these links):
http://www.shopping.hp.com/store/...UA%2523ABA
Palm Pre 2 Unlocked GSM $49.99:
http://www.shopping.hp.com/store/...AA%2523ABA
16 GB Touchpad $99 (MUST USE GOOGLE CHROME and login in to EPP to get price):
http://www.shopping.hp.com/produc...UA%2523ABA
after ur done think click here
http://www.shopping.hp.com/store/pro...ABA?aoid=35252
but seems to its all sold out
http://www.shopping.hp.com/store/pro...ABA?aoid=35252
but seems to its all sold out
bestbuy is sold out too
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olstempl...c=abcat0500000
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olstempl...c=abcat0500000
the amazon link is not dead. there was a space in the one you posted...
http://slickdeals.net/?sdtid=3220862...3801082&sr=1-3
it's $299 in the incognito window
http://slickdeals.net/?sdtid=3220862...3801082&sr=1-3
it's $299 in the incognito window
the amazon link is not dead. there was a space in the one you posted...
http://slickdeals.net/?sdtid=3220862...3801082&sr=1-3
it's $299 in the incognito window
http://slickdeals.net/?sdtid=3220862...3801082&sr=1-3
it's $299 in the incognito window
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3220862
slick deal link
slick deal link
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For that price pull the trigger. It'll at the minimum allow you to use it as an ereader and an internet browser. Android devs are already thinking of how to port Android to it and it could be a possibility in the future if WebOS completely dies.
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