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Old 01-08-2016, 12:30 AM
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I ordered my friend a ThinkPad Yoga 15 like two months ago and he's been really happy with it and I thought it was good for the price when it was ordered, which would have left room for upgrading.

Price: $900 before tax
Core i7 Mobile CPU
8GB RAM
NVIDIA Discrete Graphics
256GB SSD
1080p Touch Screen
Has the Yoga hinge for laptop/tent/presentation/tablet modes

If I wanted something with Windows 10 I'd consider it, but my 2011 MacBook Pro handles what I need with 8GB RAM and an SSD. I'm also invested in the Apple ecosystem with that, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, etc. so I like having a Mac for personal use. Did like my ThinkPad W too, but the Yoga is thinner and lighter for a Lenovo laptop.
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Old 01-08-2016, 12:44 AM
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+100 on apple refurb

In many ways the refurbs go through more checking and testing than new from the factory. My current workhorse is a 15" MBP Retina mid-2012 that I bought as a refurb. Its been great.
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Old 01-08-2016, 10:05 AM
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Thanks guys

Hp envy all packed up for return

THen stop at Apple Store at lunch
Old 01-08-2016, 10:30 AM
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FYI, I have a 13"MBP with OSX and W10 on it. 500GB hdd split into to equal partitions for each OS via Bootcamp. Best of both worlds.
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Old 01-08-2016, 11:25 AM
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Stogie

You sound way more computer saavy then me

My college room mate use to build his own computer back in the day with water cooling and all these gizmos

Sadly I learned none of that stuff
Old 01-08-2016, 11:27 AM
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Anybody have any thoughts on these?

Refurbished 21.5-inch iMac 1.4GHz dual-core Intel Core i5 - Apple


http://www.apple.com/shop/product/FE...-Intel-Core-i5


Some have 1tb fusion drive. Some just say 1tb hard drive
Old 01-08-2016, 01:11 PM
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Update , bought it


iMac retina
Was going for 27
But was too huge
Went with 21
New
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Old 01-08-2016, 01:12 PM
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they are good.
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Originally Posted by 2012wagon
Update , bought it


iMac retina
Was going for 27
But was too huge
Went with 21
New
Welcome to the light side.
Old 01-08-2016, 01:14 PM
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The box is huge

Out with old
In with new

They are processing returns still
Was $150 cheaper than Apple Store
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Old 01-08-2016, 01:16 PM
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Box

3.1GHz Processor
1TB Storage
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Old 01-08-2016, 01:22 PM
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They also wouldn't return my money for ms office

So they exchanged it for Apple ms office
Old 01-08-2016, 03:00 PM
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Whatever you do, just don't get a 21" iMac...













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Nice pickup, if you need anything, just ask Whiskers. We all do...
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Old 01-08-2016, 03:10 PM
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I run admin a bunch of Apple related FB pages if anyone cares...
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Old 01-08-2016, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
I run admin a bunch of Apple related FB pages if anyone cares...
Don't you mean a bushel of Apple related pages?
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Old 01-08-2016, 04:38 PM
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Just got home
Time to open it and get it ready
Old 01-08-2016, 07:38 PM
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Is bottom of screen supposed to be like this on retina setup ?
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also with a "roller button" how do i scroll down a web page?
Old 01-08-2016, 07:41 PM
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figured out roller

seems like i can graze the mouse top with my finger

it took al my favorites on my phone and loaded it here..AWESOME

however screen seems to big to move mouse pointer from side to side
Old 01-08-2016, 08:08 PM
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Ugh

Looks like backlight bleeding

Need to return comp?

Really wish I could have no probs with a computer
Old 01-08-2016, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 2012wagon
Is bottom of screen supposed to be like this on retina setup ?
Looks like backlight bleed. If it bothers you, you can exchange it.

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however screen seems to big to move mouse pointer from side to side
Try adjusting mouse tracking speed in system preferences. This tutorial might help too with using mouse and doing gestures.

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Doesn't look bad. Google PRAM reset and do that. Also do all the updates in the App Store.
Old 01-08-2016, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AZuser
Looks like backlight bleed. If it bothers you, you can exchange it.
thank you
i read about it now and it seems some people who returned it had the same issue

DEFINITELY bothers me BIG time

ugh hate to lug this thing back again

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Try adjusting mouse tracking speed in system preferences. This tutorial might help too with using mouse and doing gestures.

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thanks

i will do the tutorial today
should be very helpful

anything else you recommend for first time mac user?
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
Doesn't look bad. Google PRAM reset and do that. Also do all the updates in the App Store.
just did the PRAM reset

I would say its 30% better but still bleeding on the bottom

If I exchange at the store can i ask them to open box there and show no bleeding?
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Originally Posted by 2012wagon
just did the PRAM reset

I would say its 30% better but still bleeding on the bottom

If I exchange at the store can i ask them to open box there and show no bleeding?
Absolutely.
Old 01-08-2016, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
Absolutely.
thanks

i will take it back tomorrow

now wife wants to claim the desktop for her photo editing
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Sounds like your small task is about to get a hell of a lot more expensive!

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Sounds like your small task is about to get a hell of a lot more expensive!

ugh life sux and comp gods hate me
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New iMac has been returned

Best buy won't have new iMac retina in 21 inch for 9 more days
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Apple stores will match the price.
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Yeah thinking of going to Apple Store after work
Old 01-15-2016, 10:00 PM
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So back to square one

Will be ordering a 21 iMac retina through the discount

When you order there are free keyboard options . Does that mean those are the bigger keyboards that are corded ?

When i was at bestbuy corded keyboard full size was $49

When I brought the magic board home it wasn't too small

Is 1tb fusion hd worth $100 over regular 1tb hd?

Any other specs you would recommend ?
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I dont think they sell anything corded with ordered machines anymore unless you request it.
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Originally Posted by 2012wagon
Is 1tb fusion hd worth $100 over regular 1tb hd?

Any other specs you would recommend ?
Here's what Apple has to say about the Fusion drive. I think it's worth it, but I also like having my computer fast and snappy. The standard 5,400 rpm hard drive will be a bottleneck.

If you can afford it, Flash storage would be best.

Choose Storage

Configure your iMac with a large Serial ATA hard drive, choose ultrafast PCIe-based flash storage for incredible performance, or get the best combination of speed and capacity by selecting Fusion Drive.
Flash Storage

Flash storage delivers significantly improved performance compared to a traditional hard drive — speed you’ll notice when you start up your iMac, launch an app, or browse your photo library. Flash storage also uses no moving parts, so it operates silently. For maximum performance, you can configure up to 512GB of flash storage on the 21.5-inch iMac or up to 1TB on the 27-inch iMac.
Fusion Drive

Fusion Drive combines speedy flash storage with a high-capacity hard drive. OS X intelligently manages what goes where, using the flash storage for files you access frequently and keeping the rest of your digital life on the roomier hard drive. Over time, the system learns how you work, so it tailors management of Fusion Drive to work best for you. You can choose a Fusion Drive of up to 2TB on the 21.5-inch iMac and up to 3TB on the 27-inch iMac.

The 1TB Fusion Drive pairs a 1TB hard drive with 24GB of fast flash — enough to store important OS X files and applications to ensure fast startup, near instant wake from sleep and quick application launching, with room left over for your most frequently used files and apps. The 2TB and 3TB Fusion Drives pair a larger hard drive with 128GB of fast flash storage, providing even more space for your most frequently used files. For the best performance, iMac systems with 32GB of memory should be configured with a 2TB or larger Fusion Drive or all flash storage.
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If you can afford to go SSD, even with a 1TB Fusion Drive, I'd do it. Although 24GB doesn't sound like much, the near instant load time at startup and for apps is awesome. And then you still have another terabyte for whatever else you keep on your computer. I have my MacBook Pro set up with a 128GB SSD for OS X and applications, and Windows. Then I took out my optical drive and put in the 750GB HDD that came with it for high-capacity internal storage. There can be a very slight delay if I play a song way down in my iTunes library or if I'm seeking files like in my downloads folder, but it's normally unnoticeable and I'm fine with it.

This is based on something I learned from my storage certification.
A lot of enterprise storage arrays (at least EMC arrays since that is what I worked on) use what is called FAST: Fully Automated Storage Tiering. What that is, is that it evaluates what types of storage you have (in enterprise it is usually Flash, SAS, and Near-Line SAS, from fastest to slowest, respectfully) and automatically places data in the different types of storage where it most makes sense, i.e. what you use most often stays on the fast, flash storage (like your OS) but then stuff that can take up a lot of space like documents, photos, and media files that can afford to have a slight lag are moved to the slower, mechanical storage device since a second or two lag to open a single file is normally less of an impact than delay to load the OS on boot or opening applications. It helps to optimize the use of solid-state storage since the price per gigabyte is still relatively high when compared to mechanical, platter hard disks. So, in a way, Apple's Fusion Drive in the iMac is very similar to what FAST does in enterprise storage deployments.
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Thank you guys

I will go with the fusion drive

I need more than the 512 gb space available on flash




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