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hmm....
where is my big long bookmarks list? is it really only that bookmarks bar?
also with that speed dial type new tabs thing, can i set what goes in there myself or it only auto generates the pages that go there from what you browse frequently. might not be a good thing.........
and how can i turn off my history.
really dont see the point of having to remember to go incognito whenever i want to browse porn.
where is my big long bookmarks list? is it really only that bookmarks bar?
also with that speed dial type new tabs thing, can i set what goes in there myself or it only auto generates the pages that go there from what you browse frequently. might not be a good thing.........
and how can i turn off my history.
really dont see the point of having to remember to go incognito whenever i want to browse porn.
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hmm....
where is my big long bookmarks list? is it really only that bookmarks bar?
also with that speed dial type new tabs thing, can i set what goes in there myself or it only auto generates the pages that go there from what you browse frequently. might not be a good thing.........
and how can i turn off my history.
really dont see the point of having to remember to go incognito whenever i want to browse porn.
where is my big long bookmarks list? is it really only that bookmarks bar?
also with that speed dial type new tabs thing, can i set what goes in there myself or it only auto generates the pages that go there from what you browse frequently. might not be a good thing.........
and how can i turn off my history.
really dont see the point of having to remember to go incognito whenever i want to browse porn.
you can pin sites and permanently remove sites from the speed dial list.
IDK how to turn off history, you can manually delete history items afterwards or you can just hit ctrl+shift+n to enter incognito mode, I don't think that's very hard, probably easier than trying to turn off history.
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all your bookmarks should be in "other bookmarks" on the right.
you can pin sites and permanently remove sites from the speed dial list.
IDK how to turn off history, you can manually delete history items afterwards or you can just hit ctrl+shift+n to enter incognito mode, I don't think that's very hard, probably easier than trying to turn off history.
you can pin sites and permanently remove sites from the speed dial list.
IDK how to turn off history, you can manually delete history items afterwards or you can just hit ctrl+shift+n to enter incognito mode, I don't think that's very hard, probably easier than trying to turn off history.
so i was testing it out and accidentally removed a site that i would like to put back.. did i fuck up?
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The ultimate privacy mode is a virtual machine. One that has a totally different account than your desktop and locks the desktop after 5 minutes of inactivity (or however long it usually takes you to finish).
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Google released the stable build of Chrome Version 6 today and it's pretty sweet! It's also Chrome's 2nd birthday!
They grow up so fast 
Finally a browser that implements Auto-fill as well as Safari has on OS X for years. Sync is really cool now it syncs Autofill info, bookmarks, extensions, preferences and themes across all you PCs and Macs instantly! It also has an even MORE minimalist interface. I swear it takes up a few less vertical pixels too but I can't confirm that
Again, highly recommended.
They grow up so fast Finally a browser that implements Auto-fill as well as Safari has on OS X for years. Sync is really cool now it syncs Autofill info, bookmarks, extensions, preferences and themes across all you PCs and Macs instantly! It also has an even MORE minimalist interface. I swear it takes up a few less vertical pixels too but I can't confirm that
Again, highly recommended.
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-Built-in translation of foreign language pages
-The speed dial feature (my favorite)
-I much prefer the UI over FF's ugly UI
-Chrome's more secure cause it sandboxes the browser from the rest of the OS
-each tab is it's own process so if one page crashes the whole page doesn't crash
-Great new Auto-fill feature fills in your info automatically so you don't have to enter your address and what not everytime you need to
-Syncs all your settings across all your machines
-Better HTML 5 support
-Especially HTML 5 h.264 video support
-Then of course there's the speed aspect, Chrome blows FF out of the water in every browser benchmark even the ones from Mozilla...
So the real question is why the fuck choose Firefox!?!? Extensions!? Chrome has thousands of those too...
-The speed dial feature (my favorite)
-I much prefer the UI over FF's ugly UI
-Chrome's more secure cause it sandboxes the browser from the rest of the OS
-each tab is it's own process so if one page crashes the whole page doesn't crash
-Great new Auto-fill feature fills in your info automatically so you don't have to enter your address and what not everytime you need to
-Syncs all your settings across all your machines
-Better HTML 5 support
-Especially HTML 5 h.264 video support
-Then of course there's the speed aspect, Chrome blows FF out of the water in every browser benchmark even the ones from Mozilla...
So the real question is why the fuck choose Firefox!?!? Extensions!? Chrome has thousands of those too...
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Then never upgrade to FF 4 cause it's going to be a rip off of Chrome just like IE will. Chrome must be doing something right if everyone is stealing it's UI.
maybe you should give it another try, just for the speed dial feature. Try it for a few days and get back to me....
maybe you should give it another try, just for the speed dial feature. Try it for a few days and get back to me....
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I don't like it either, FF has things out in the open.
Though FF turns into a resource hog after long use. I just close it out and start over, but it sometimes continues to run when I "X" it out. And it also doesn't hold online log-in's and passwords after a certain amount of time. FF3 never reset them.
But I still will use it.
Though FF turns into a resource hog after long use. I just close it out and start over, but it sometimes continues to run when I "X" it out. And it also doesn't hold online log-in's and passwords after a certain amount of time. FF3 never reset them.
But I still will use it.
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I'll stick with Firefox til Google can fix this bug. It's so annoying they can't get the UI to behave properly after 2 years.
http://www.google.com/support/forum/...bbed3461&hl=en
http://www.google.com/support/forum/...1cbf5597&hl=en
http://www.google.com/support/forum/...hl=en&start=40
http://www.google.com/support/forum/...bbed3461&hl=en
http://www.google.com/support/forum/...1cbf5597&hl=en
http://www.google.com/support/forum/...hl=en&start=40
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Then never upgrade to FF 4 cause it's going to be a rip off of Chrome just like IE will. Chrome must be doing something right if everyone is stealing it's UI.
maybe you should give it another try, just for the speed dial feature. Try it for a few days and get back to me....
maybe you should give it another try, just for the speed dial feature. Try it for a few days and get back to me....
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I'll stick with Firefox til Google can fix this bug. It's so annoying they can't get the UI to behave properly after 2 years.
http://www.google.com/support/forum/...bbed3461&hl=en
http://www.google.com/support/forum/...1cbf5597&hl=en
http://www.google.com/support/forum/...hl=en&start=40
http://www.google.com/support/forum/...bbed3461&hl=en
http://www.google.com/support/forum/...1cbf5597&hl=en
http://www.google.com/support/forum/...hl=en&start=40
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One complaint I have about FF (maybe others are the same) is that if I have a number of tabs open, and one tab happens to somehow find it's way to an adult themed site of questionable repute, that site can execute code that changes the url of some of the also-open tabs while simultaneously disabling the "back" button on them. I am sure it's a Java issue not a browser issue, but I can't shut off Java for obvious reasons...
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I'll stick with Firefox til Google can fix this bug. It's so annoying they can't get the UI to behave properly after 2 years.
http://www.google.com/support/forum/...bbed3461&hl=en
http://www.google.com/support/forum/...1cbf5597&hl=en
http://www.google.com/support/forum/...hl=en&start=40
http://www.google.com/support/forum/...bbed3461&hl=en
http://www.google.com/support/forum/...1cbf5597&hl=en
http://www.google.com/support/forum/...hl=en&start=40
<--staying with FF
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^I know! I'm 100% confident he's wrong so I'm just waiting for proof otherwise....
Do a search for it the closest result ends up being someone talking out of their ass, sooo....
Do a search for it the closest result ends up being someone talking out of their ass, sooo....
Electrolysis is the Mozilla project which deals with the out of process plugins and tab handling.
This feature gives the tabs and plugins the ability to run out of process. So, in case of a misbehaving plugin or tab, it can be safely closed without disturbing the whole browsing session.
Out of process plugins allow the browser to run the plugins in a separate sandboxed area.
This change has appeared on the recent developer preview build released by Firefox. The Alpha 2 release of Firefox 4.0 is still named Firefox 3.7 though.
Apart from the out of process plugin, the new features in Firefox 4.0 Alpha 2 are,
Link history lookup removed from main thread and made asynchronous.
Loading HTML5 spec no longer causes long pauses.
Layout performance improvements (DOM access time, color management, text area, etc.).
JavaScript engine improvements (better string handling, faster closures, support for recursion).
Many new features for developers.
The layout improvement means faster rendering on web pages and the support for recursion and better string handling means more RAM consumption and faster JS rendering.
The out of process plugin is a feature present in Google Chrome for a long time now. Chrome add-ons are catching up. Chrome definitely delivers pages faster and in the midst of all this, Firefox is going to lose out in the browser race if it does not do something awesome soon.
This feature gives the tabs and plugins the ability to run out of process. So, in case of a misbehaving plugin or tab, it can be safely closed without disturbing the whole browsing session.
Out of process plugins allow the browser to run the plugins in a separate sandboxed area.
This change has appeared on the recent developer preview build released by Firefox. The Alpha 2 release of Firefox 4.0 is still named Firefox 3.7 though.
Apart from the out of process plugin, the new features in Firefox 4.0 Alpha 2 are,
Link history lookup removed from main thread and made asynchronous.
Loading HTML5 spec no longer causes long pauses.
Layout performance improvements (DOM access time, color management, text area, etc.).
JavaScript engine improvements (better string handling, faster closures, support for recursion).
Many new features for developers.
The layout improvement means faster rendering on web pages and the support for recursion and better string handling means more RAM consumption and faster JS rendering.
The out of process plugin is a feature present in Google Chrome for a long time now. Chrome add-ons are catching up. Chrome definitely delivers pages faster and in the midst of all this, Firefox is going to lose out in the browser race if it does not do something awesome soon.
And, here is the link for electrolysis:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis
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No he doesn't! He fails hard! Did anyone even read what he just quoted!? That's not sandboxing in a security sense that's just tab and process isolation. Where each tab and plugin runs in it's own process so if a tab or plugin crashes it doesn't crash the whole browser. Chrome has had that since version 1. So yes the process is "sandboxed" (bad choice of words on the author's part) from other processes but it's not sandboxed from Windows. Sandboxing severely limits a programs access to Windows files that is nothing like what is described above.
How many times do I have to explain this, this is at least the 4th time and the 2nd time with you two. So I'm going to quote myself again.
Click the links below so you can read up on what sandboxing really is and that it's nothing like what was quoted above. Also read how Adobe is going to be following is teaming up with Google and Microsoft to work on building Protected Mode for Adobe Reader. Wonder why Adobe didn't mention Mozilla, oh that's right cause they don't offer this feature AT ALL!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandbox...uter_security)
http://blogs.adobe.com/asset/2010/07...cted-mode.html
Now you show me where Firefox runs with low user rights? It doesn't. Period.
How many times do I have to explain this, this is at least the 4th time and the 2nd time with you two. So I'm going to quote myself again.
Click the links below so you can read up on what sandboxing really is and that it's nothing like what was quoted above. Also read how Adobe is going to be following is teaming up with Google and Microsoft to work on building Protected Mode for Adobe Reader. Wonder why Adobe didn't mention Mozilla, oh that's right cause they don't offer this feature AT ALL!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandbox...uter_security)
http://blogs.adobe.com/asset/2010/07...cted-mode.html
but the chance of any malware being successfully installed and f-ing up your system is much higher with Firefox than IE or Chrome. That's because IE and Chrome are sandboxed from the rest of the system meaning that anything that gets download can't access system files, etc cause they have lower than user rights. While Firefox inherits the user rights and therefore has access to system files and malware that comes through Firefox has access to much more of the system than IE or Chrome which has none.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandbox...uter_security)
In related news Adobe recently announced that they've teamed up with Microsoft and that the next major version of Reader will incorporate this same sandbox technology (Protected Mode as MSFT calls it) in their Reader software! This is great security news as Adobe products are becoming the most popular avenues of attack by hackers. Now the hackers will defnitely turn their sites to Firefox which still won't have this feature in version 4.
http://blogs.adobe.com/asset/2010/07...cted-mode.html
This is the one reason why I tell people not to use Firefox, and sadly it users think they're more secure cause they are using firefox.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandbox...uter_security)
In related news Adobe recently announced that they've teamed up with Microsoft and that the next major version of Reader will incorporate this same sandbox technology (Protected Mode as MSFT calls it) in their Reader software! This is great security news as Adobe products are becoming the most popular avenues of attack by hackers. Now the hackers will defnitely turn their sites to Firefox which still won't have this feature in version 4.
http://blogs.adobe.com/asset/2010/07...cted-mode.html
This is the one reason why I tell people not to use Firefox, and sadly it users think they're more secure cause they are using firefox.
Also in Windows FF has questionable security especially now that it's gained such a strong market share. FF version 3.5 is now the most popular browser version on the Interwebs, it has more users than IE 6, IE 7 or IE 8 (not combined though). So it's days of not being a targer due to smaller marketshare are over. Which is a problem cause FF does NOT run in low privilege sandboxed mode (IE and Chrome do) which means malware that comes in through FF has much more access to the system folders and files than if it came through IE or Chrome which means it has a better chance of success.
the above image is from sysinternals process explorer which is what I use below turn on the integrity level column
and it has nothing to do with sucking on MS cock cause
A. I don't use IE
and
B. Google chrome has had the low priority mode from the get go so why doesn't firefox?
This is a really good security feature which effectively limits where malicious software can write to only a couple folders and to only one registry area. So any malware can't infect system files cause the process rights that it inherits from IE or chrome are untrusted applications and aren't allowed to change anything cause they have rights lower than a user. While firefox has medium integrity so any malware that comes through it has much more access to system files than on IE or chrome. Therefore if you get malware it's much more likely to work on firefox than in IE and chrome. With IE and chrome if you get an infection you just run ccleaner and it's gone.
this protected mode feature is Vista/7 only, again yet another reason to ditch XP!!
and it has nothing to do with sucking on MS cock cause
A. I don't use IE
and
B. Google chrome has had the low priority mode from the get go so why doesn't firefox?
This is a really good security feature which effectively limits where malicious software can write to only a couple folders and to only one registry area. So any malware can't infect system files cause the process rights that it inherits from IE or chrome are untrusted applications and aren't allowed to change anything cause they have rights lower than a user. While firefox has medium integrity so any malware that comes through it has much more access to system files than on IE or chrome. Therefore if you get malware it's much more likely to work on firefox than in IE and chrome. With IE and chrome if you get an infection you just run ccleaner and it's gone.
this protected mode feature is Vista/7 only, again yet another reason to ditch XP!!
Now you show me where Firefox runs with low user rights? It doesn't. Period.
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That's what happens to every windows application when you double click there.
So you'd rather click twice next to a tab than click once on the plus sign that's right next to the tab? That doesn't make sense....
So you'd rather click twice next to a tab than click once on the plus sign that's right next to the tab? That doesn't make sense....
No he doesn't! He fails hard! Did anyone even read what he just quoted!? That's not sandboxing in a security sense that's just tab and process isolation. Where each tab and plugin runs in it's own process so if a tab or plugin crashes it doesn't crash the whole browser. Chrome has had that since version 1. So yes the process is "sandboxed" (bad choice of words on the author's part) from other processes but it's not sandboxed from Windows. Sandboxing severely limits a programs access to Windows files that is nothing like what is described above.
Did you even read the electrolysis wiki link I posted? Because it says what you just described.
It has Security/Process Isolation, which is explained as so:
Process isolation is designed to separate Firefox into multiple processes, each with the least amount of privilege necessary. In doing so, the potential damage for a large number of Firefox vulnerabilities can be reduced.