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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by slvrdrgn123
Have you tried assigning different static IPs to each laptop? Or try pressing the reset button the router itself. Maybe it'll help. Good luck.
I did not try assigning different static IPs because I don't know how to do that. I went and bought a different wireless router anyway. My wife's laptop is not here now, but we'll see when she gets home...
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 01:20 PM
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Gatr, do you have a 3rd wireless device that you can test to make sure it's a router problem and not new laptop problem? See if you have the same problem trying a diff. device instead of the new laptop.
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 01:27 PM
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I love my Netgear 3700... I have two laptops, an iPad, and three smartphones connected to it. Plus you can run on two different frequencies.

I don't know your issue because I run 1 network name and password for one freq. and 1 for the other.
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by hornyleprechaun
Gatr, do you have a 3rd wireless device that you can test to make sure it's a router problem and not new laptop problem? See if you have the same problem trying a diff. device instead of the new laptop.
Yes. I connected my old laptop just fine. It worked fine on the new wireless router. It also worked fine on the old router, but my new laptop did not.

It's like my awesome laptop decided to be a little bitch and compete with Internet space with my wife's laptop.
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
get a new router
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 03:49 PM
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I bet your new computer has a firewall set up to screw with the connection.
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
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Yes, I did. Thank for your help.
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 04:10 PM
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DD-WRT time:

http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/index

You're welcome.
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by OTSB708
DD-WRT time:

http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/index

You're welcome.
Didn't help.

I bought a Cisco wireless router, and hooked up my wife's laptop, and it works. All three laptops can connect to the internet now. I hated spending the extra $85.
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by gatrhumpy
Didn't help.

I bought a Cisco wireless router, and hooked up my wife's laptop, and it works. All three laptops can connect to the internet now. I hated spending the extra $85.

Stunna feels pretty good about it though.
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 07:28 PM
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I would still DD-Wrt it.

no giggles.
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 07:37 PM
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Stunna feels pretty good about it though.
I called that shit in the first post. He could've saved himself a lot of frustration if he'd just gone out then and got a new one but he didnt want to listen to me

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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 07:37 PM
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my favorite routers are the Trendnet ones, they do not have much in terns of features but they work and work well. Dlink seems to be OK as well
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
I called that shit in the first post. He could've saved himself a lot of frustration if he'd just gone out then and got a new one but he didnt want to listen to me

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Do you fucking buy a car every time you need an oil change? No.

Stop being a douchebag.
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 08:32 PM
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I'm not being a douchebag I just realized right away that this wasn't a fixable problem and the only solution was to replace it. There is no setting in the router or on your pc that would fix this issue. That means it's a hardware issue and since the hardware is so cheap it's not worth taking to a shop to repair it, so your only choice was to replace it. Which is what I said the whole time but you didn't want to take me completely valid advice that ended up being the correct solution to your problem
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
I called that shit in the first post. He could've saved himself a lot of frustration if he'd just gone out then and got a new one but he didnt want to listen to me

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yeah 'cause troubleshooting the issue NEVER works....lol

cut the guy some slack

there are multiple HW revisions of that router and some of them are prone to that type of failure....... I agree with the replace part after troubleshooting failed to resolve the issue.

Not everyone is a network router guru man and not everyone wants to go out and buy a new router unless they have to......
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 01:10 AM
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I recognized right away from my experience that software troubleshooting was almost futile. I would've been shocked if the troubleshooting advice that I gave in the first couple posts worked (though I gave it anyways on the odd chance that it would) and I stated that I was almost certain there wasn't software feature that would cause this. So I recommended replacing the router as legit advice and I was told that my advice was not genuine.

Even though I've helped him and many others on this forum many times (I recently saved Stogie $720 when no one else on here could figure out his problem) Shit I've shipped the OP an extra SATA cable out my own pocket that he needed. I've remoted into AZ members PC and worked on it for hours for free and I've offered free phone tech support to people and generally gone above and beyond to help people with IT problems on here. My help is completely "genuine" and it's not my fault if he doesn't want to accept it.

I just think I should get some respect around here, I think it's pretty obvious that I know what the fuck I'm talking about when it comes to this stuff, so when I tell you 5 times to replace the router you should probably do it.

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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 04:20 AM
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^just for the record, when I read his original post, I had the same thought as you because I deal with these routers on a regular basis and this IS a pretty common failure.

You seem like a pretty decent guy on this forum and I like to read what you post up about tech.......now with that I am going back to watching a cult classic RoboCop ahahha
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
I'm not being a douchebag I just realized right away that this wasn't a fixable problem and the only solution was to replace it. There is no setting in the router or on your pc that would fix this issue. That means it's a hardware issue and since the hardware is so cheap it's not worth taking to a shop to repair it, so your only choice was to replace it. Which is what I said the whole time but you didn't want to take me completely valid advice that ended up being the correct solution to your problem
What we have hear is a failure to communicate on your part. Where the hell in your original post did you say that it was a unfixable problem? Oh, that's right, you didn't.

"make sure you don't have a static IP assigned to one of the PCs or if you do that it's outside of the DHCP range.

make sure you DHCP range isn't too small, if its set to only 1 IP address then it will only give out one, though I've never seen a router do that. Me thinks your router sucks and you need a new one or were you messing around with the settings of the router and you messed it up and don't know how to fix it?"

My router was working just fine with two laptops on it. Then, all of a sudden, I get a new laptop, and now it wasn't working fine.

If you thought my router sucks and you're Mr. Technology on here, then why the hell did my router 'fail' and not let two laptops on at the same time? Oh that's right, you can't.
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 06:47 AM
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
I recognized right away from my experience that software troubleshooting was almost futile. I would've been shocked if the troubleshooting advice that I gave in the first couple posts worked (though I gave it anyways on the odd chance that it would) and I stated that I was almost certain there wasn't software feature that would cause this. So I recommended replacing the router as legit advice and I was told that my advice was not genuine.

Even though I've helped him and many others on this forum many times (I recently saved Stogie $720 when no one else on here could figure out his problem) Shit I've shipped the OP an extra SATA cable out my own pocket that he needed. I've remoted into AZ members PC and worked on it for hours for free and I've offered free phone tech support to people and generally gone above and beyond to help people with IT problems on here. My help is completely "genuine" and it's not my fault if he doesn't want to accept it.

I just think I should get some respect around here, I think it's pretty obvious that I know what the fuck I'm talking about when it comes to this stuff, so when I tell you 5 times to replace the router you should probably do it.

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You're always bragging about this shit. No one fucking cares.
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 08:17 AM
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Glad I can help.
Next time I'm asking your help. At least I won't get attitude.
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 08:28 AM
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Gatr, sorry i'm late to the party, but my own curiosity wants to know if the new laptop was win7x64 ?
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA

I just think I should get some respect around here, I think it's pretty obvious that I know what the fuck I'm talking about when it comes to this stuff, so when I tell you 5 times to replace the router you should probably do it.

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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 08:46 AM
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he needs to replace his router...those new E-series Linksys are really problematic.
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 09:01 AM
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Gatr, sorry i'm late to the party, but my own curiosity wants to know if the new laptop was win7x64 ?
Yes it does. I believe my wife's laptop also has Windows 7x64. Now we might be getting somewhere. Why would this be a problem?

I had just installed 8GB of RAM from 4GB. This wouldn't cause a problem with the wireless interface card and software, would it?
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by coykiam
he needs to replace his router...those new E-series Linksys are really problematic.
I have to replace my router AGAIN!? Why are they problematic? I just bought a Cisco Dual Band E-series router from Target...
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by gatrhumpy
Yes it does. I believe my wife's laptop also has Windows 7x64. Now we might be getting somewhere. Why would this be a problem?

I had just installed 8GB of RAM from 4GB. This wouldn't cause a problem with the wireless interface card and software, would it?

Well, my hunch was that the router wasn't playing nice with win7x64 but if your wife's laptop was already x64 then who knows. Still could be the issue or might not. There are like 8 revisions of the WRT54GS router so I can't say for sure. The microsoft HCL says the GS is supported for x64 but it doesn't say which rev's. It could be all, it could be just some. There are lot of things it could have been including the drivers for the wireless card on your new laptop or some software on there that didn't like the router. At any rate, you got it working so no big deal now, right?

And, no, added memory to your laptop wouldn't matter.
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by rza49311
Well, my hunch was that the router wasn't playing nice with win7x64 but if your wife's laptop was already x64 then who knows. Still could be the issue or might not. There are like 8 revisions of the WRT54GS router so I can't say for sure. The microsoft HCL says the GS is supported for x64 but it doesn't say which rev's. It could be all, it could be just some. There are lot of things it could have been including the drivers for the wireless card on your new laptop or some software on there that didn't like the router. At any rate, you got it working so no big deal now, right?

And, no, added memory to your laptop wouldn't matter.
Well, Cochese is going to help me trouble-shoot it tonight. If I can get both to work on the old router, that would be awesome...
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OP: The problem with your first router was MAC addresses conflicting, possibly due to cloning. If you just factory reset it, you wouldn't have to run out and buy a new one like some wannabe IT expert here had suggested
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OP: The problem with your first router was MAC addresses conflicting, possibly due to cloning. If you just factory reset it, you wouldn't have to run out and buy a new one like a some wannabe IT expert here had suggested.


Yeah, this is going to be part of the TSA.
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 09:26 AM
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OP: The problem with your first router was MAC addresses conflicting, possibly due to cloning. If you just factory reset it, you wouldn't have to run out and buy a new one like some wannabe IT expert here had suggested
What are MAC addresses for? How do (did) they get cloned? I also reset the wireless router about 18 times, both unplugging it AND holding the reset button about 10 seconds. Is that a hard reset?
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 09:31 AM
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Well, Cochese is going to help me trouble-shoot it tonight. If I can get both to work on the old router, that would be awesome...
10-4, good luck.
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 09:41 AM
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^Im confused as well, I thought MAC addresses were specific to the wifi or LAN card and are different on every device? Or do you mean the router can't handle more than a specified amount?

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Stunna has helped me before. Many a times, I have come on here to ask for help and as silly as some of the questions were, I have always gotten great advise. Sorry this here turned into a pissing match. But to those who jump into offer advise all the time, here is one person that does really appreciate it.
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 09:52 AM
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What are MAC addresses for? How do (did) they get cloned? I also reset the wireless router about 18 times, both unplugging it AND holding the reset button about 10 seconds. Is that a hard reset?
If you actually hard reset the router, the SSID would change back to the default one, something like "linksys". Any WEP/WPA encryption would be removed as well, allowing you to connect to the router without being prompted to enter the password.
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^Im confused as well, I thought MAC addresses were specific to the wifi or LAN card and are different on every device? Or do you mean the router can't handle more than a specified amount?

Most wireless routers have the ability to clone the MAC of a computer connected to it. This is often needed to work properly with cable modems.
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Eggplant-EX
Stunna has helped me before. Many a times, I have come on here to ask for help and as silly as some of the questions were, I have always gotten great advise. Sorry this here turned into a pissing match. But to those who jump into offer advise all the time, here is one person that does really appreciate it.
He has been helpful for me before. But his MO is to say "Buy something newer" rather than trouble-shooting the real problem and exploring all options.
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 10:01 AM
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If you go under Network, can you see the router?
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Originally Posted by whynot
If you actually hard reset the router, the SSID would change back to the default one, something like "linksys". Any WEP/WPA encryption would be removed as well, allowing you to connect to the router without being prompted to enter the password.
Oh, I did that a number of times. The problem was that when I connected both laptops at the same time, I got a blinking amber "Cisco Systems" light, and the connection was slow as hell for both laptops, even after resetting the router...
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