Apple: OS X Lion
06-08-2011, 08:42 PM
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Yea for $30 I'd pay.
It's like if I had vista and only had to pay $30 to goto win7.
Id gladly pay for that.
Actually for me to buy a full copy of win7 premium wasn't that expensive either. I think around $100.
It's like if I had vista and only had to pay $30 to goto win7.
Id gladly pay for that.
Actually for me to buy a full copy of win7 premium wasn't that expensive either. I think around $100.
06-08-2011, 10:42 PM
#42
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Trackpad is weird. but easy upgrade on the air so far.
06-08-2011, 10:57 PM
#43
Sanest Florida Man
wait what? You got a developer account?
06-08-2011, 11:07 PM
#44
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I got it from someone who has it, and the reverse scrolling is weird.
06-09-2011, 07:13 AM
#45
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Its nice
06-09-2011, 08:03 AM
#46
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Apple should just give Lion away or charge $1. Software sales, especially the OS are such a small part of their revenue stream.
Certainly $30 is no big deal, but if you want to get everyone on a new OS and perhaps make it a selling point of Macs. Give it away!
Certainly $30 is no big deal, but if you want to get everyone on a new OS and perhaps make it a selling point of Macs. Give it away!
06-09-2011, 09:09 AM
#47
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$30 is a good price, a lot of 3rd party software does what it does, its actually cheaper then most software. Good move on Apple.
06-09-2011, 07:32 PM
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You can save some money if you get an iTunes gift card. They are on sale this week at Best Buy and Target. 15% off from best buy (can get online with free delivery). Some folks are reporting that Target has them for 20% off.
http://www.9to5mac.com/70527/15-off-...re/#more-70527
http://www.9to5mac.com/70527/15-off-...re/#more-70527
06-11-2011, 02:51 AM
#49
Sanest Florida Man
Seems Lion Server will be an extra $50 and you have to be running 10.6 server in order to get it. I wonder if SL server features will run on top of Lion? Probably not.
http://www.apple.com/macosx/server/how-to-buy/
http://www.apple.com/macosx/server/how-to-buy/
06-11-2011, 09:06 AM
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I'm wondering if this upgrade is going to cost me an extra $140 for a couple of magic trackpads. The magic trackpad would be really cool if it could plug into the USB port of my keyboard and not require a battery.
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06-12-2011, 01:30 PM
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http://www.mactrast.com/2011/06/mac-...gle-chrome-os/
Mac OS X Lion Will Have Restart to Safari Browser-Only Mode Similar to Google Chrome OS
Apple has snuck in a browser-only mode to the latest developer beta of OS X Lion, emulating Google’s Chrome OS.
According to a leaked screenshot, there is a “Restart to Safari” option on Lion’s user lock screen which gives a user without login credentials the ability to boot into Safari only while keeping all other system resources locked away. This is very similar to the behavior of Google’s Chromebook except with the added benefit of a full-blown Mac notebook. Apple users will be able to have their cloud and eat it too, unlike with Chrome OS.
This strategy fits nicely with the iCloud strategy, especially if Apple brings iWork.com out of beta for more than just document viewing. Safari kiosk mode coupled with browser-editable iWork.com documents could entice Google Docs users with a well-designed Apple interface that would save changes to iCloud and push those down to all iOS and OS X devices. Steve Jobs said last Monday “we’re going to demote the PC and the Mac to just be a device” and this fits that mantra perfectly. “It just works.”
Your documents would be always up to date, include Versions and be accessible from everywhere, including Safari-only mode. As Jobs put it: “The truth is in the cloud.”
OS X Lion will be available in July for $29.99 from the Mac App Store.
Mac OS X Lion Will Have Restart to Safari Browser-Only Mode Similar to Google Chrome OS
Apple has snuck in a browser-only mode to the latest developer beta of OS X Lion, emulating Google’s Chrome OS.
According to a leaked screenshot, there is a “Restart to Safari” option on Lion’s user lock screen which gives a user without login credentials the ability to boot into Safari only while keeping all other system resources locked away. This is very similar to the behavior of Google’s Chromebook except with the added benefit of a full-blown Mac notebook. Apple users will be able to have their cloud and eat it too, unlike with Chrome OS.
This strategy fits nicely with the iCloud strategy, especially if Apple brings iWork.com out of beta for more than just document viewing. Safari kiosk mode coupled with browser-editable iWork.com documents could entice Google Docs users with a well-designed Apple interface that would save changes to iCloud and push those down to all iOS and OS X devices. Steve Jobs said last Monday “we’re going to demote the PC and the Mac to just be a device” and this fits that mantra perfectly. “It just works.”
Your documents would be always up to date, include Versions and be accessible from everywhere, including Safari-only mode. As Jobs put it: “The truth is in the cloud.”
OS X Lion will be available in July for $29.99 from the Mac App Store.
06-12-2011, 01:57 PM
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yea i read about that last night.
kind of neat.
kind of neat.
07-01-2011, 08:39 PM
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so then I shouldn't have to PM you for links, then should I? I should just get one as payback......
07-01-2011, 08:41 PM
#55
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actually I'm debating whether I'll upgrade right away or not. Apple is known for releasing buggy shit, SL was still buggy when it was released (guest account bug that deleted all the users files), I held off until 10.6.3.
I guess I'l upgrade my Mini server first but hold off on my main MBP, that one's too important
I guess I'l upgrade my Mini server first but hold off on my main MBP, that one's too important
07-01-2011, 09:10 PM
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What do you do with your mini server?
07-01-2011, 09:17 PM
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not much right now....
not sure if I want to create an apple only domain or try to join it to my windows domain.
not sure if I want to create an apple only domain or try to join it to my windows domain.
07-01-2011, 09:33 PM
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Ok.. What could I do?
07-01-2011, 09:46 PM
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great that you asked! I just did a little research and watched this cool video on integrating Mac OS X into AD. I think I'm gonna do that now!
"Best Practices for Integrating Mac OS X into Active Directory"
http://seminars.apple.com/seminarson...ple/index.html
"Best Practices for Integrating Mac OS X into Active Directory"
http://seminars.apple.com/seminarson...ple/index.html
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07-01-2011, 09:51 PM
#60
Sanest Florida Man
This looks good too! "Modifying Active Directory Schema to Support Mac Computers" 
http://www.seminars.apple.com/semina...203&locs=us_en
http://www.seminars.apple.com/semina...203&locs=us_en
07-01-2011, 10:09 PM
#61
Sanest Florida Man
^Yup! That's my next project!
Looks fun!
Looks fun!
07-01-2011, 10:20 PM
#62
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MacHEADS - a documentary that introduces the "fascinating" characters that make up the Macintosh community.
http://xfinitytv.comcast.net/movies/...Play=true&&u=c
I couldn't make it past 1:15 and I had to stop, so sad...:guninmouthpulltrigger:
http://xfinitytv.comcast.net/movies/...Play=true&&u=c
I couldn't make it past 1:15 and I had to stop, so sad...:guninmouthpulltrigger:
07-02-2011, 08:37 AM
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Unless I'm missing something, I don't think I'm going to get it until I decide that I need a magic trackpad.
07-02-2011, 02:08 PM
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07-02-2011, 02:09 PM
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07-02-2011, 02:15 PM
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07-03-2011, 01:24 AM
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great that you asked! I just did a little research and watched this cool video on integrating Mac OS X into AD. I think I'm gonna do that now!
"Best Practices for Integrating Mac OS X into Active Directory"
http://seminars.apple.com/seminarson...ple/index.html
"Best Practices for Integrating Mac OS X into Active Directory"
http://seminars.apple.com/seminarson...ple/index.html
07-03-2011, 07:45 AM
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Running gold now, seems the same as last build.
07-03-2011, 09:12 AM
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07-03-2011, 09:15 AM
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I like it.
What I'm not clear on is Lion Server. Understand it's a separate buy/install. But there were a set of server apps for the Snow Leopard Clients, that could control/access the server environment. When Lion was installed, those apps were wiped.
Wondering if that means you have to run "server" on all macs to get those apps back?
What I'm not clear on is Lion Server. Understand it's a separate buy/install. But there were a set of server apps for the Snow Leopard Clients, that could control/access the server environment. When Lion was installed, those apps were wiped.
Wondering if that means you have to run "server" on all macs to get those apps back?
07-03-2011, 09:42 AM
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I like it.
What I'm not clear on is Lion Server. Understand it's a separate buy/install. But there were a set of server apps for the Snow Leopard Clients, that could control/access the server environment. When Lion was installed, those apps were wiped.
Wondering if that means you have to run "server" on all macs to get those apps back?
What I'm not clear on is Lion Server. Understand it's a separate buy/install. But there were a set of server apps for the Snow Leopard Clients, that could control/access the server environment. When Lion was installed, those apps were wiped.
Wondering if that means you have to run "server" on all macs to get those apps back?
07-03-2011, 11:00 AM
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Does anyone have any info on the restore partition? Can you opt not to have one? Can you opt to have it on an external FW drive? I'd rather not waste space on my SSD with it.
07-03-2011, 02:55 PM
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Sanest Florida Man
I like it.
What I'm not clear on is Lion Server. Understand it's a separate buy/install. But there were a set of server apps for the Snow Leopard Clients, that could control/access the server environment. When Lion was installed, those apps were wiped.
Wondering if that means you have to run "server" on all macs to get those apps back?
What I'm not clear on is Lion Server. Understand it's a separate buy/install. But there were a set of server apps for the Snow Leopard Clients, that could control/access the server environment. When Lion was installed, those apps were wiped.
Wondering if that means you have to run "server" on all macs to get those apps back?
http://support.apple.com/downloads/S...min_Tools_10_6
Then I'll assume they were removed because the aren't compatible to run on Lion. You'll have to wait until a Lion version of server admin tools to come out before you can run them on a Lion client OS.
MS is the same way, their remote server administration tools (RSAT) only run on the latest OS, if you want to admin Server2008R2 you need Win7, the tools won't run on Vista/XP and there's even a difference between service packs, SP1 server can't be admined by Win7 PC that doesn't have SP1.
07-04-2011, 12:43 PM
#77
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Apple is allowing to run lion in a vm (on a Mac obviously) without paying for a new copy now. Which is nice if you want to mess around without killing your OS.
07-09-2011, 11:59 AM
#78
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Interesting article from a big mac fan, he's not liking a lot of the new features in Lion....
http://gizmodo.com/5819418/mac-os-x-...ere-hoping-for
http://gizmodo.com/5819418/mac-os-x-...ere-hoping-for
07-09-2011, 05:22 PM
#79
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I agree with the launchpad app. It too many extra steps to get where you want to go and its only purpose seems to show people that it can look like an ipad. If it booted up to the launchpad + touchscreen, it may be different.
07-10-2011, 09:15 PM
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I was planning to buy a 27" iMac tomorrow, until I realized that Lion wasn't released yet. Should I wait until Lion is released until I make my purchase? The last time I upgraded a computer was when I used an upgrade disk from XP to Vista and it killed my PC.