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Old 01-21-2010, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
unlimited family is 179 i believe. double check though.
Unless I am missing something, I found that the family plan is 119.99 for the first two lines and 49.99 for each additional line over 2.
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-pho...hone-plans.jsp

If that is the case, that is a smoking deal.
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Originally Posted by leftride
here's hoping for no OLED screen. I've heard nothing good about them outside in the sun.

I'd like to see something groundbreaking in the way of battery life, other than that I have no need to upgrade from my 3G.

I am excited to see what OS 4.0 brings.
The OLED screen is a little harder to read in the sun, but turning the brightness up takes care of that. That's an overrated issue in my opinion. The screen on my Nexis is stunning, not getting an OLED because it's slightly tougher to see in the sun is silly.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Apps being able to run in the background FTW!
Probably the best thing about android. Closing an app and knowing it's doing what you want to do in the background while you move on to something else.
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hmm... don't have any cracked apps yet, at least I don't think so. My friend did the initial setup at first and all I did was download a few free apps on Cydia and got themes/skins for my phone. still works.... but I'll heed that caution when I do start getting cracked apps
You can always SSH the files out of the phone and save them to your computer before you sync. If they get deleted, just SSH them back into the phone.
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Why does everyone like multitasking so much on their phone? I downloaded Backgrounder and the only time I use it is when someone IMs me or texts me and I'm playing some game and wanna reply quickly without saving. other than that I almost never use it
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It's more of a convenience than a want/need type of deal.
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Originally Posted by I Go To Costco
Why does everyone like multitasking so much on their phone? I downloaded Backgrounder and the only time I use it is when someone IMs me or texts me and I'm playing some game and wanna reply quickly without saving. other than that I almost never use it
I use it all the time now that I have it, extremely convenient.
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Originally Posted by SwervinCL
Unless I am missing something, I found that the family plan is 119.99 for the first two lines and 49.99 for each additional line over 2.
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-pho...hone-plans.jsp

If that is the case, that is a smoking deal.
Said it was the case in teh article, I didnt check it out, but I didnt check out the unlimited plan and it did in fact drop to 69 plus 30 for data....so 99 unlimited everything.
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
Thing about Apple is that they are very polished and neat looking, but they are never cutting edge when it comes to hardware. Their whole product line is usually a step behind
I dont find this to be entirely. There are points that can be argued and are accurate.

But let me ask you this.

Who came before the iphone?

All these new phones and OS are 2-3 years in the making as a response to the iphone. And while many of them have given way to good things (multitasking) no has really yet out down the iphone in an overall sense. It still has the best and most responsive screen. (proven by tests, article has been posted in another thread.)

There is no one phone yet that is really better at being an iphone than the iphone. And by the time there is a new competetive model will be out to the top spot once again.
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Said it was the case in teh article, I didnt check it out, but I didnt check out the unlimited plan and it did in fact drop to 69 plus 30 for data....so 99 unlimited everything.
Still a pretty good deal. I just looked on Verizon's website for their prices and everything seems to work out to be about the same.
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
I dont find this to be entirely. There are points that can be argued and are accurate.

But let me ask you this.

Who came before the iphone?

All these new phones and OS are 2-3 years in the making as a response to the iphone. And while many of them have given way to good things (multitasking) no has really yet out down the iphone in an overall sense. It still has the best and most responsive screen. (proven by tests, article has been posted in another thread.)

There is no one phone yet that is really better at being an iphone than the iphone. And by the time there is a new competetive model will be out to the top spot once again.
Don't get me wrong, the iphone revolutionized the smart phone industry and I don't deny that the iPhone does what it does extremely well. It's pretty amazing device all around. The software preference is just that, a preference. I actually think the iphone OS is better in many ways than Android or Rim. My point is that when they release new versions, they are usually catching up with what other phones already have. When they do catch up, their implementation is usually very impressive.

Like I mentioned, they may put a snapdragon in there, but by then the Nexus will have had it for 6 months already. Same with an OLED screen. Would you put money on Apple putting in a 2Ghz processor in the 4G iphone?

My point is, don't expect anything groundbreaking from them in this update. I personally think their big update will come in 2011, with a 4G (LTE) introduction.
Old 01-23-2010, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
My point is, don't expect anything groundbreaking from them in this update. I personally think their big update will come in 2011, with a 4G (LTE) introduction.
This I will agree on. The 3g was no huge update...the 3GS was. I typically wait every other cycle with apple.
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Boy Genius Report claims to have received information from a source regarding iPhone OS 4.0, which is rumored to be introduced at next week's media event in San Francisco. According to the source, iPhone OS 4.0 will be limited to the iPhone 3G and 3GS (presumably including at least more recent iPod touch models and omitting the original iPhone) and will incorporate solutions for multitasking by running applications in the background and a revamped user interface for easier navigation.
- There will be multi-touch gestures OS-wide. (Would make sense for that as the rumored OS for the iTablet is close if not the same as the iPhone)
- "A few new ways" to run applications in the background -- multitasking.
- Many graphical and UI changes to make navigating through the OS easier and more efficient. We haven't had this broken down, but we can only hope for improved notifications, a refreshed homescreen, etc.
- The update will supposedly be available for only the iPhone 3G and 3GS, but will "put them ahead in the smartphone market because it will make them more like full-fledged computers" more than any other phone to date. Everyone is "really excited."
- The last piece of information is the most vague, but apparently there will be some brand new syncing ability for the contacts and calendar applications.

The ability to run iPhone applications in the background has been near the top of many users' wish lists, but Apple has yet to implement full backgrounding and multitasking due to its effect on performance and battery life, instead opting to deploy push notifications as a means for closed applications to serve data to users. The expansion of the ability to run applications in the background beyond those few specified by Apple has been a relatively common theme, with multiple reports suggesting that Apple has been working on ways to deploy the functionality in at least a limited sense, although many expected such developments to be included in iPhone OS 3.0 last year.


just a few more dats until the rumored announcement of the new OS and the rumored tablet.

Just a few more days unti
Old 01-23-2010, 02:25 PM
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LOLz just read that apple is in the works to make bing it's default search engine since google is becoming a serious competitor.
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Yes and it has been rumored apple has been working on its own maps app for some time.
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Do you think they will let the user have a choice on what they use? I doubt it thou.

Just worried that maybe the apple maps ap won't be as good as googles and we get stuck using it.
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
Do you think they will let the user have a choice on what they use? I doubt it thou.

Just worried that maybe the apple maps ap won't be as good as googles and we get stuck using it.
Have you tried Bing's maps? It's better than Google's maps.
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Who said anything about apple using bing maps.
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So what do you guys think the odds are that Verizon will be receiving the iPhone?
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I hope it doesnt goto verizon. If it does, goodbye iphone.
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
Who said anything about apple using bing maps.
Take it easy Miz, not getting laid enough? Oh wait...sorry.

The rumors that Apple is going with Bing instead of Google as a default search engine could imply such a thing, considering Apple currently uses Google maps nativley.
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The tablet won't have snapdragon in it. It's going to have their own custom chipset IMO.

I also expect the iPhone to be announced for Verizon's HSPA network this week.

Also, don't be surprised if the tablet has an HSPA radio inside of it as well.
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Looks like some others think the same thing Astro.

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com..._blg=1,1578063
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So if Apple signed a contract with Verizon, would it be an exclusive contract? Would Verizon be the only one that would carry it or would ATT still carry it as well. I just switched to ATT to get the iPhone about a year ago and don't want to go to Verizon. But in turn, I don't really want to give up my iPhone as well.

Just curious.
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So true about the iPhone not switching over to edge.

During CES there were so many journalists there that it killed the 3G network and my phone wouldn't automatically switch to edge. I had to manually do it.
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
So true about the iPhone not switching over to edge.

During CES there were so many journalists there that it killed the 3G network and my phone wouldn't automatically switch to edge. I had to manually do it.
That is not only the phone. That has a lot to do with the cell phone abyss that is the LVCC. I could never ever get reception in that place even if was completely empty. I was in that empty hall enough to know to never try and carry on a conversation when i would walk into any one of the halls. The south halls were the worst. Up around the central hall corridor was pretty bad too.
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No, even when I was on the strip or in the hotels the 3g service was dead.

There were so many people with iPhones there that it just overloaded the network.

Which is why I'm kind of happy for AT&T losing it's exclusivity. Means less new iPhone customers on AT&T and less strain on the network which should lead back to a better experience.
(although my experience is already pretty good, that was the only time I've had a bad one)
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anyone else's Safari crash (occasionally) while browsing AZ? Especially threads with lots of pictures like the "Just Body NSW" thread
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^ I take it you're on a 3G?

My 3G used to always crash while loading picture-heavy threads, my 3GS has yet to crash because of it. I can't even remember the last time it crashed, period.
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no, mine's 3GS too, but it's JB'd... so do you think that might have something to do with it?
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My 3GS has been jailbroken since day 1 and haven't had issues with crashing like I did on my 3G.

I just upgraded to 3.1.2 last week and added a whole bunch of tweeks.
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If there's too many pictures my 3GS just shows small blue boxes.
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i just read that you can use skype or any VOIP app over 3G now.
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misread the article, the skype app itself doesnt work....

ill post a link.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/28/f...skype-over-3g/

Fring for iPhone now lets you call with Skype over 3G
By Ross Miller posted Jan 28th 2010 9:24PM
Now that the iPhone SDK seems to allow for 3G VoIP, it looks like the floodgates are beginning to open. Joining the ranks of iCall in this somewhat uncharted territory is Fring. Same deal as the previous one, the ability is already inherent in the current build, and now that the restriction has been lifted, users can simply place calls as they usually do through the service -- yes, that includes Skype calls -- only now not tethered to the nearest 802.11 cloud. As for the native Skype app, last we checked it was still not working. But it's only a matter of time.
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Confirmed: iPhone OS 3.2 has support for video calling, file downloads, and SMS


The iPad may not have a camera in its current incarnation, but Apple's at least laying the foundation for one: we just confirmed with extremely trusted sources that iPhone OS 3.2 contains rudimentary support for video calling, which could explain that mysterious space at the top of the device in our leaked pics. We're told that there are hooks to accept and decline a video conference, flip a video feed (which suggests a front-facing camera) and -- most importantly -- run the video call in either full screen mode or in just a portion of the screen. That means you'll be able to chat and do other things at the same time, which could mean there's at least some type of multitasking going on here.

We can also confirm that iPhone OS 3.2 supports file downloads and local storage in the browser, which means you'll be able to pull files off the web and use them in other apps, and there's at least the beginnings of SMS support buried within the code -- a fact we were able to verify with noted iPhone jailbreaker chpwn, who sent in the above screenshot from a hacked-up copy of the iPad simulator. (The simulator always says "iPhone simulator" in the menu bar, but that's the iPad.) chpwn also tells us he's found some inklings of actual phone support, there's a spellchecker, and that both the new landscape orientation for the homescreen and keyboard support appear to be destined for the iPhone itself when 3.2 comes out.

We're not sure what any of this means at this point, or if any of it will ever be implemented, but we're definitely starting to get the impression that Apple didn't tell us everything there is to know about the iPad on Wednesday -- and we're even more curious to find out what iPhone OS 4.0 will look like when it arrives.

P.S.- chpwn was also able to port iPhone multitasking hacks ProSwitcher and Backgrounder to the iPad simulator, which is certainly going to be useful if an iPad jailbreak exploit is eventually discovered. Check out a shot of it going in the gallery below, along with some other settings panels the coder dug up.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/29/c...ling-file-dow/
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3.1.3 is out.




Apple today released iPhone OS 3.1.3 for all iPhone and iPod touch models, addressing several specific bugs as well as offering fixes for a handful of security issues.
This update for the iPhone and iPod touch contains bug fixes and improvements, including the following:

- Improves accuracy of reported battery level on iPhone 3GS
- Resolves issue where third-party apps would not launch in some instances
- Fixes bug that may cause an app to crash when using the Japanese Kana keyboard

Full details on the security updates included in iPhone OS 3.1.3 are available in the associated support document.
link: http://www.macrumors.com/2010/02/02/...nching-issues/

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AT&T Approves 'SlingPlayer Mobile' Television Streaming Over 3G

Thursday February 04, 2010 10:48 AM EST; Category: iPhone
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AT&T today announced that it has decided to allow Sling Media's SlingPlayer Mobile iPhone application to stream video content over its 3G network. SlingPlayer Mobile allows users of Sling Media's "Slingbox" hardware to control and stream live and recorded content to their iPhones and iPod touches.

AT&T attracted significant attention when it refused to allow the SlingPlayer Mobile to stream video over the carrier's wireless networks, citing the potential for the video traffic to overwhelm its network capacity and create service issues for other users. Consequently, the application has been Wi-Fi-only in the U.S. since its launch in May 2009.

Since mid December 2009, AT&T has been testing the app and has recently notified Sling Media -- as well as Apple -- that the optimized app can run on its 3G network. The SlingPlayer Mobile app already is available for use today on AT&T's Wi-Fi network, the nation's largest with more than 20,000 hotspots.
In its press release, AT&T also took the opportunity to publicize its willingness to work with developers on bandwidth-intensive mobile applications in order to create the best possible experience for users.

"Just as we've worked with Sling Media in this instance, we look forward to collaborating with other developers so that mobile customers can access a wider, more bandwidth-sensitive, and powerful range of applications in the future," said Ralph de la Vega, president and CEO, AT&T Mobility and Consumer Markets. "Collaboration with developers like Sling Media ensures that all apps are optimized for our 3G network to conserve wireless spectrum and reduce the risk that an app will cause such extreme levels of congestion that they disrupt the experience of other wireless customers. Our focus continues to be on delivering the nation's most advanced mobile broadband experience and giving our customers the widest possible array of mobile applications."
Support for developers is offered through AT&T's dedicated developer site.

nice.
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http://www.macrumors.com/2010/02/08/...r-form-factor/




is it me or does it look not only taller but thinner??

so maybe a 16:9 ratio screen? if this is true.
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can't tell the difference in width if there is any, but the actual screen size looks to be the same.
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yea you're right, looking at the screen itself it looks the same.


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