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The iPhone's popularity has to do with its usability...the fact that it is an inherently instinctive user experience. Android has come a long way, but it still doesn't run as well as iOS (IMHO), and, let's face it: The main reason Android devices needed faster processors and more memory was because Google *needed* it!!
If Android is what you like, that's fine. I've tried everything, and do not find any kind of advantage to any Android device. But that's just me, one stupid, silly old man. :-)
Now that I think of it, the GPU + CPU integration that the A4 enjoys and has enjoyed for a while is something that Android devices are only now beginning to have. And there isn't a link between Android and any kind of manufacturing executive, so Android ends up being a great experience on a particular device with a particular GPU and CPU, capable of playing even very complicated games, but the same version of Android ends up being a bad experience on a device that might be able to advertise high powered specifications but which simply doesn't have its act together when it comes to how the device interfaces with the RAM, or how and when the GPU and CPU elements switch tasks.
Have you ever watched a movie on an iPhone 4? It's not a bad experience, and you'll find that you prefer the little 3.75" Retina Display to the displays of the iPads and other devices in the 10" to 12" range. It's just a nice overall, general experience.
There isn't going to be a single answer that serves everybody well, but I think the iPhone comes closest of anything available.
IMHO, of course.
05-14-2011, 08:46 AM
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Yeah, they'll probably give you an even better camera, even though the low advertised mp of the current camera still produces video and images that are higher quality than those of devices with much higher advertised mp.
Do you use the HDR function of the iPhone camera? :-) It's great.
I do not think we will have LTE (4G) on the next iPhone, which might be called a "4S" instead of a "5."
I don't see how they can get a Qualcomm chip into the size of the iPhone and still do everything else that they want to do. The only sized multifunctional chip available could not possibly be produced in sufficient quantities anytime in 2012, and I do not see how Qualcomm can fix all the issues with it in time for the next iPhone. It'll support HSPA+ on AT&T, however, giving you all the advantages of whatever your local arrays will support.
I think we might get a 4" screen this time, and retain the Retina Display.
The next iPhone will be a very nice upgrade of hardware, but I don't think it'll be revolutionary. What might be revolutionary is iOS 5. It sounds like they're finally tackling many of the requests they've been getting the past couple of years, and it might be a very nice operating system improvement.
05-14-2011, 09:59 AM
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It'll be an A5 with an even better integration with the GPU. It'll probably have even more, very fast RAM.
Yeah, they'll probably give you an even better camera, even though the low advertised mp of the current camera still produces video and images that are higher quality than those of devices with much higher advertised mp.
Do you use the HDR function of the iPhone camera? :-) It's great.
I do not think we will have LTE (4G) on the next iPhone, which might be called a "4S" instead of a "5."
I don't see how they can get a Qualcomm chip into the size of the iPhone and still do everything else that they want to do. The only sized multifunctional chip available could not possibly be produced in sufficient quantities anytime in 2012, and I do not see how Qualcomm can fix all the issues with it in time for the next iPhone. It'll support HSPA+ on AT&T, however, giving you all the advantages of whatever your local arrays will support.
I think we might get a 4" screen this time, and retain the Retina Display.
The next iPhone will be a very nice upgrade of hardware, but I don't think it'll be revolutionary. What might be revolutionary is iOS 5. It sounds like they're finally tackling many of the requests they've been getting the past couple of years, and it might be a very nice operating system improvement.
Yeah, they'll probably give you an even better camera, even though the low advertised mp of the current camera still produces video and images that are higher quality than those of devices with much higher advertised mp.
Do you use the HDR function of the iPhone camera? :-) It's great.
I do not think we will have LTE (4G) on the next iPhone, which might be called a "4S" instead of a "5."
I don't see how they can get a Qualcomm chip into the size of the iPhone and still do everything else that they want to do. The only sized multifunctional chip available could not possibly be produced in sufficient quantities anytime in 2012, and I do not see how Qualcomm can fix all the issues with it in time for the next iPhone. It'll support HSPA+ on AT&T, however, giving you all the advantages of whatever your local arrays will support.
I think we might get a 4" screen this time, and retain the Retina Display.
The next iPhone will be a very nice upgrade of hardware, but I don't think it'll be revolutionary. What might be revolutionary is iOS 5. It sounds like they're finally tackling many of the requests they've been getting the past couple of years, and it might be a very nice operating system improvement.
05-14-2011, 10:00 AM
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If a purchaser is someone who shops hardware specifications, then he is just not necessarily going to want an iPhone.
The iPhone's popularity has to do with its usability...the fact that it is an inherently instinctive user experience. Android has come a long way, but it still doesn't run as well as iOS (IMHO), and, let's face it: The main reason Android devices needed faster processors and more memory was because Google *needed* it!!
If Android is what you like, that's fine. I've tried everything, and do not find any kind of advantage to any Android device. But that's just me, one stupid, silly old man. :-)
Now that I think of it, the GPU + CPU integration that the A4 enjoys and has enjoyed for a while is something that Android devices are only now beginning to have. And there isn't a link between Android and any kind of manufacturing executive, so Android ends up being a great experience on a particular device with a particular GPU and CPU, capable of playing even very complicated games, but the same version of Android ends up being a bad experience on a device that might be able to advertise high powered specifications but which simply doesn't have its act together when it comes to how the device interfaces with the RAM, or how and when the GPU and CPU elements switch tasks.
Have you ever watched a movie on an iPhone 4? It's not a bad experience, and you'll find that you prefer the little 3.75" Retina Display to the displays of the iPads and other devices in the 10" to 12" range. It's just a nice overall, general experience.
There isn't going to be a single answer that serves everybody well, but I think the iPhone comes closest of anything available.
IMHO, of course.
The iPhone's popularity has to do with its usability...the fact that it is an inherently instinctive user experience. Android has come a long way, but it still doesn't run as well as iOS (IMHO), and, let's face it: The main reason Android devices needed faster processors and more memory was because Google *needed* it!!
If Android is what you like, that's fine. I've tried everything, and do not find any kind of advantage to any Android device. But that's just me, one stupid, silly old man. :-)
Now that I think of it, the GPU + CPU integration that the A4 enjoys and has enjoyed for a while is something that Android devices are only now beginning to have. And there isn't a link between Android and any kind of manufacturing executive, so Android ends up being a great experience on a particular device with a particular GPU and CPU, capable of playing even very complicated games, but the same version of Android ends up being a bad experience on a device that might be able to advertise high powered specifications but which simply doesn't have its act together when it comes to how the device interfaces with the RAM, or how and when the GPU and CPU elements switch tasks.
Have you ever watched a movie on an iPhone 4? It's not a bad experience, and you'll find that you prefer the little 3.75" Retina Display to the displays of the iPads and other devices in the 10" to 12" range. It's just a nice overall, general experience.
There isn't going to be a single answer that serves everybody well, but I think the iPhone comes closest of anything available.
IMHO, of course.
I prefer a experience where I'm involved with my phone and it's abilities. Similar to a PC, you buy it, bring it home and then you make it yours. You pick which browser you want to use, which mail applications, which music software, ect, ect. Same thing with Android, I can use the stock apps, but if, but there are dozens of other third party apps I can use. I can replace my SMS app, E-mail app, Music app, Browser, and practically anything else I want to replace.
There are also a couple things that put Android over the top for me, those are the notification system (be honest, it's pathetic on iOS), widgets (I love that I don't have to go into individual apps to see my info), and true multi-tasking that isn't limited to certain functionality.
05-14-2011, 10:47 AM
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I can't really argue any of that. Especially because the amount of people using the iphone. It just depends on what type of experience you want. If you want a "inherently instinctive user experience", then it's simple, go get an iPhone.
I prefer a experience where I'm involved with my phone and it's abilities. Similar to a PC, you buy it, bring it home and then you make it yours. You pick which browser you want to use, which mail applications, which music software, ect, ect. Same thing with Android, I can use the stock apps, but if, but there are dozens of other third party apps I can use. I can replace my SMS app, E-mail app, Music app, Browser, and practically anything else I want to replace.
There are also a couple things that put Android over the top for me, those are the notification system (be honest, it's pathetic on iOS), widgets (I love that I don't have to go into individual apps to see my info), and true multi-tasking that isn't limited to certain functionality.
I prefer a experience where I'm involved with my phone and it's abilities. Similar to a PC, you buy it, bring it home and then you make it yours. You pick which browser you want to use, which mail applications, which music software, ect, ect. Same thing with Android, I can use the stock apps, but if, but there are dozens of other third party apps I can use. I can replace my SMS app, E-mail app, Music app, Browser, and practically anything else I want to replace.
There are also a couple things that put Android over the top for me, those are the notification system (be honest, it's pathetic on iOS), widgets (I love that I don't have to go into individual apps to see my info), and true multi-tasking that isn't limited to certain functionality.
05-14-2011, 11:03 AM
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05-14-2011, 11:12 AM
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Aren't they pushing the Pre3 as a business phone, not a social phone?
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I figure now that HP, the largest of the computer companies owns Palm that the market share will dramatically increase.
WebOS is arguably the best mobile operating system.
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05-14-2011, 03:36 PM
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Funny because I hear the opposite. Great developer support but little interest because of market share.
I figure now that HP, the largest of the computer companies owns Palm that the market share will dramatically increase.
WebOS is arguably the best mobile operating system.
I figure now that HP, the largest of the computer companies owns Palm that the market share will dramatically increase.
WebOS is arguably the best mobile operating system.
http://gigaom.com/2011/04/26/android...llengers-fade/
According to that site, as of April 26, interest in development for Web OS is below every other mobile OS other than Symbian and Meego. As good as it may be, without good apps to go along with, it will always be lacking. Not saying things can't change, but I'm sticking with Android for now.
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I wish I could agree with you, because I've heard it's a great OS, but it seems Web OS is getting much less support from the devs.
http://gigaom.com/2011/04/26/android...llengers-fade/
According to that site, as of April 26, interest in development for Web OS is below every other mobile OS other than Symbian and Meego. As good as it may be, without good apps to go along with, it will always be lacking. Not saying things can't change, but I'm sticking with Android for now.
http://gigaom.com/2011/04/26/android...llengers-fade/
According to that site, as of April 26, interest in development for Web OS is below every other mobile OS other than Symbian and Meego. As good as it may be, without good apps to go along with, it will always be lacking. Not saying things can't change, but I'm sticking with Android for now.
HP is pushing hard though, they have the cash that Palm did not.
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Palm shit all over their name pre-buyout. Too late for them now to do anything. Waste of hp's money.
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05-18-2011, 09:35 AM
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That was uncalled for...
I just learned that if you push the "Locate Me" button twice in Maps, the map rotates toward the direction you're looking...
This is most likely old news for everybody but coming from my compassless 3G, this is big news
This is most likely old news for everybody but coming from my compassless 3G, this is big news
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After almost 5 years. My OG 1st gen iPhone that my wife has been using on tmobile is starting to go (top lock button stopped working) so we finally brought to AT&T with 16gb white iPhone.
I dig the white.
I dig the white.
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I wish I could agree with you, because I've heard it's a great OS, but it seems Web OS is getting much less support from the devs.
http://gigaom.com/2011/04/26/android...llengers-fade/
According to that site, as of April 26, interest in development for Web OS is below every other mobile OS other than Symbian and Meego. As good as it may be, without good apps to go along with, it will always be lacking. Not saying things can't change, but I'm sticking with Android for now.
http://gigaom.com/2011/04/26/android...llengers-fade/
According to that site, as of April 26, interest in development for Web OS is below every other mobile OS other than Symbian and Meego. As good as it may be, without good apps to go along with, it will always be lacking. Not saying things can't change, but I'm sticking with Android for now.
on all the early adopters and developers by skipping over WebOS 2 and going straight to 3 which is using a proprietary language much like what Apple uses. From what my friends have told me, devs would pretty much have to rewrite their entire application to get them to work on the new phones running WebOS 3.HP is simply banking on the hopes that since they make so many computers, they'll get devs that want to put apps on their machines. It's gamble, but it may work. Sadly, the devs that enjoy doing the work because they like what they do and they push the technology are going to move on to other stuff, while the guys only looking to make money are going to churn out sub-par apps just to make a quick profit. That's my hunch.
05-27-2011, 02:53 PM
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Now, I need to update my iPhone. I have been putting it off because I don't want to lose all of my JB apps. I know you can back them up, I just haven't gotten around to figuring out how to do it.
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well latest rumors say that iOS5 will have a revamped notification system. finally. hopefully its implemented well.
and widgets.
http://www.macrumors.com/2011/05/27/...m-and-widgets/
heres a concent vision of how one person wants widgets to be.
<iframe width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/_B3uj-MAJx0?rel=0&hd=1" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
if i would use it or want it like that
and widgets.
http://www.macrumors.com/2011/05/27/...m-and-widgets/
heres a concent vision of how one person wants widgets to be.
<iframe width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/_B3uj-MAJx0?rel=0&hd=1" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
if i would use it or want it like that
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it seems like to me if you have to many widgets you might as well just goto the app instead of swiping thru all the pages.
its the same with how i feel about the multitasking.
if you have that many apps in the multitasking bar, you might as well just goto the homescreen and flick to the app itself, it might be faster then swiping thru numerous pages of apps in the multitasking bar
i dont know if im making any sense.
its the same with how i feel about the multitasking.
if you have that many apps in the multitasking bar, you might as well just goto the homescreen and flick to the app itself, it might be faster then swiping thru numerous pages of apps in the multitasking bar
i dont know if im making any sense.
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05-31-2011, 02:26 PM
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widgets = semi-pointless
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But I'm sure you'll have the option to turn it off or on.
Unless it's on the lock screen I won't use it.
06-02-2011, 09:44 PM
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That was uncalled for...
I almost don't want to update when it comes out... My 4 is working flawlessly, it has all the features I want and works as fast as I want it to... I'll never use widgets, so why update the software to have it? It's just taking up space and slowing everything else down...
I've also got a sour taste in my mouth from religiously updating my 3G... it went from working great to a slow POS after each new update...
Unless something huge comes along where I NEED to update (like all the apps requiring iOS 5) I probably won't bother...
I've also got a sour taste in my mouth from religiously updating my 3G... it went from working great to a slow POS after each new update...
Unless something huge comes along where I NEED to update (like all the apps requiring iOS 5) I probably won't bother...
06-03-2011, 07:45 AM
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I'll be waiting to see what iOS 5 has to offer, and if there's any hint of what the hardware might hold.
But, I think I'll be going to the Galazy S2 when it comes out. After having an iPhone for three years, I feel the need for change. I might not like it and switch back, but I have to check it out. Wife will get my 4, just hope her 3G can hold on until the time comes. Keep getting the WSOD and trying a full restore now.
But, I think I'll be going to the Galazy S2 when it comes out. After having an iPhone for three years, I feel the need for change. I might not like it and switch back, but I have to check it out. Wife will get my 4, just hope her 3G can hold on until the time comes. Keep getting the WSOD and trying a full restore now.
06-03-2011, 09:36 AM
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Yea, having a calendar widget right on my homescreen, along with recent news and weather, so that I don't have to open individual apps to get that information is completely worthless. And I'd much rather go through 3 levels of settings to turn wifi and bluetooth on and off instead just clicking a button on my power control widget.
Widgets don't use up much processing power or battery power at all. It's a glance instead of swiping to an app, opening it, loading the data, closing the app.
Widgets don't use up much processing power or battery power at all. It's a glance instead of swiping to an app, opening it, loading the data, closing the app.
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06-06-2011, 08:30 AM
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no because i wont use them.
06-06-2011, 09:34 AM
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Wife's 3G was doing the WSOD, so I opened it up and it was just the ribbons coming loose. Made sure they all were plugged back in and we're all good.
With the iOS5 announcement coming today, I'll probably be okay until the S2 finally comes out, or perhaps I can wait for the inevitable next best thing.
With the iOS5 announcement coming today, I'll probably be okay until the S2 finally comes out, or perhaps I can wait for the inevitable next best thing.
06-06-2011, 01:16 PM
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PC free is cool and delta OTA updates too. new camera stuff is nice and searching the entire message. otherwise.....
