Moog-Type-S

Your phone is busted.

On vibrate there is no camera click.

Mizouse

But there's been a fix for many years, get a GSM phone

yohan81718

well. if you consider consumer's perspective and their usage, it may be an issue.
if you look at it from technological standard's perspective, it's a limitation or lack of feature, not a bug, hence the word "fix" doesn't fit in there.

okay, i need to go back to work lol

Doom878

I think it was her phone then since I tested hers. She still had iOS 3.1.3 and she said she had a 3GS but it may have been 3G. It works on mine.

GIBSON6594

Thanks for the semantics lesson

Ken1997TL

Are you anti-semantic? :smitler:

GIBSON6594

Smitler fits well there.

v6cord2k5

iTrader: (1)

None of my iPhones (3G, 3GS, and 4) have made noises while on silent mode.

Mizouse

none of mine have either.

maybe she got a japanese/asian version? i think its the law there that a camera phone has to make a noise even in silent mode ?

PortlandRL

I had a feeling this topic would be alight with lively discussion.

I was right.

Costco

I'm still waiting for that phone that'll make that "leap"

We'll see. AT&T is very good in my area, and I'd argue that at times it's faster than some Verizon phones (on 3G). iOS definitely seems to be slightly faster than Android, especially in the keyboard department. I guess I need to take a step back and reconsider, since I did make a step up from a "dumb phone" to the first iPhone, which despite its shortcomings was quite a leap. Same thing with the 3GS I have now.... maybe I'm setting my standards too high.

But I'm not convinced yet. I still don't trust Apple and AT&T. Comparing with jailbroken and non-jailbroken iPhone 4s, there have been several times with/without bumper cases where they get poor/no reception (not like mine is much better) or I'm surfing away on 3G when their phones can't even get a connection.

Even in San Jose (http://www.slashgear.com/wp-content/...100223-600.jpg) where AT&T is reputedly faster/more reliable than the other carriers, there are times where my phone won't be able to even make/receive a call, yet other people in the same car as me with Verizon have no problems whatsoever. There's also the occasional phantom voicemail/text that I'll get a day after it was actually sent. So I can imagine what it would be like in one of those areas where AT&T is considered horrible, when it's already considered great where I live. I don't travel internationally much so I'm indifferent to the lack of a SIM card



I don't think battery technology has caught up yet with the amount of power these devices require. But sealing the battery away for the purpose of form factor is a to me. Then again, I've always been function > form

WP7 seems crippled out of the gate, with features to come over time. We'll see. My history with Apple hasn't been too great, and being on Verizon isn't quite enough to make the jump. I've probably used data while on a call enough times to count on one hand, so that's not a dealbreaker. My contract is up in June, hopefully Apple, Android and Windows roll out everything they've got and have the bugs ironed out too.

Doom878

A phone that is interesting is the Moto Atrix as it works as a computer as well and the Playstation Sony phone. Both run Android but the Moto under ATT (not sure where PS phone will go) is probably prone to local issues as well. Isn't it well documented that the NorCal area and NY have issues?

GIBSON6594

That phone is the direction technology is headed. Laptops and personal computers are going to be phased out for all in one devices as you see with the Matrix. You, and all of us, will most likely have a similar device in the future.

Give it time, all carriers will have it or their own version of it, probably before 2012.

And yes, ATT is pretty terrible in NY, but that said, I only had problems with the iPhone on ATT, never had any problems on my ATT Blackberry.

Doom878

PBS came out with a free app. You can watch some of their shows on the phone. I saw American Masters John Lennon on there which should be excellent and Captain Picard playing MacBeth. Just 30 second clips for the kids but hopefully they add more programming.

Costco

WOW.... thank you for mentioning the Atrix. It's stuff like that that gives geeks like me e-boners.

Very interested to see where this will go. This is kinda like when phones started having internet, or more specifically high-speed internet.





Hmm.... not to be such a nitpicky bastard (even though I am) but while he was showing Angry Birds on the webtop(?) it seemed to have a slightly sluggish framerate. Could possibly be cause I assume it's still in development, but either way it looks very promising. I think a ~4" screen is about the ideal size for a smartphone to remain practical. Beyond that.... this opens up a world of possibilities.

Is a dual-core processor in a smartphone a first or something? Never heard of that.

Doom878

Ask the Android guys. I think the Nexus S has one or maybe some other Droid phones coming out. Too many to track for me.

GIBSON6594

Dual processors in phones is new and the recent CES even was the first major announcements of the release of them in the US (even though we knew they were coming).

The Atrix, Bionic, and the Optimus 2X are among the choices.

Mizouse

I'm sure AAPLs next iPhone will have one too.

GIBSON6594

I would not bet on that. So we are clear, we are talking about the phone they will most likely announce this coming June.

I highly doubt they are making dual core a priority. They are not in that market segment.

Mizouse

Ya never know!

Mizouse

Dual core + 1GB ram + more efficient multi tasking =

Moog-Type-S

Moog-Type-S

http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/new...43-gpu-driver/

iPhone 4S ?!?!?

Mizouse

Sounds like it. Nothing I can really think of.

yohan81718

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/14/e...-apple-tv-and/

hmmm so iphone5 instead iphone4s?

either way, i'm going to get ipad2 when it launches and most likely verizon iphone5

gdubb

Ok picking up my first iphone today. Can anyone guide me on the top info sites on the internet for the phone?

Thanks!

asianspec

iTrader: (1)

top gear cool wall app
http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/the-c...346833718?mt=8

Mizouse

And someone said dual core is unlikely on the next iPhone? :

#1 STUNNA

Is there a way to manually get SHSH blobs for iOS versions? my dad's 3Gs is JB on 4.1 but he wants to update to 4.2.1 and do the untethered JB. However Cydia only has SHSH blobs for 4.1 and SHSH blobs for 4.2b3 are required for the untethered JB to work. Is there a way to make SHSH blobs for 4.2b3 or any other iOS version for that matter?

#1 STUNNA

I guess it appears I'm too late to get SHSH blobs for him......

GIBSON6594

I still think it is. I never said it won't be dual core, I said I doubt it. And Engadget's fuzzy rumors don't convince me otherwise. Apple is late to the hardware game every year. I'd also wager there is about a 30% difference in customer knowledge about dual core between iOS and Android. Seems silly for them to invest in that at this point, especially after releasing a new chip last year.

Either way, even if the iphone does get it, everyone will act like it's the most amazing thing to ever happen to technology, even though it will have been out for 6 months already.

yohan81718

i'm kind of playing around here but iOS + dual core probably is the most amazing thing to ever happen to smartphone technology upto date lol

dual core + android??? pfffft

Doom878

I like macrumors. But I think someone's already mentioned some great apps that you can get. So you can ask away here

#1 STUNNA

I just did the untethered JB for 4.2.1 on my iPhone and iPad last night. On my iPhone I used the aptbackup utility and it only halfway worked. While it restored all my JB apps like mywi,my3g, multiflow, etc it deleted all my apps I had from the app store!

GIBSON6594

Take a look at the Atrix and tell me if you still feel that way.

cM3go

Hmm, when to sell iPhone 4...

yohan81718

i'm very very biased here.. but i've always hated motorola since startac and never really liked android motorolas either

all android phones to me is just different variations of hardware.. and a bit of customization.. if it was just about hardware with android, i'd rather go with LG 2x optimus than atrix

but then.. a lot of iphone users who aren't moving to android is because of the OS.


since i give more credits on OS than hardware itself, to answer your question, i do still feel that way

Moog-Type-S

Looks like the iPhone 4 is already outdated.

Those poor Verizon customers.

GIBSON6594

Not trying to start a OS battle here, just curious. What is it about iOS that you like more than Android?

yohan81718

i guess you can't take half joke and had to start the OS battle now (i said i'm just playing around here when i made that statement)

if you had to ask me what part of iOS i like more than android, (and i assume you know tech stuff quite well like a lot of people in this thread), then i can see you finding reasons to disagree with me. hence i won't say anything

android is good. never bashed on it. i just like iOS better for now. let's end it there.