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Old 01-27-2010, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
Personal experience and:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/13/bu...digi.html?_r=3

There are more related articles which say the same thing, but this is credible.
Thanks, first I'm hearing about that. If that's the case well damn, I hope they fix it for the 4G.
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Translation: AT&T better get their shit together or else we're going to allow the iPhone on other networks such as Verizon.
I would love to get an iPhone, however, the only reason I have not done it is b/c it is on AT&T. Their coverage sucks around most of the Southeast... so I wouldn't even consider an iPhone until it comes to Verizon or Sprint...
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Originally Posted by srika
Thanks, first I'm hearing about that. If that's the case well damn, I hope they fix it for the 4G.
Yea, AT&T routinely scores well when network tests are performed and the blackberries I've used on their network run like champs. My iphone, however, was commonly a nightmare.
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Originally Posted by srika
btw in case you missed this yesterday....

http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...pple-says.html
Interesting.....I think AT&T is going to try VERY hard to get it's exclusive deal with Apple extended.
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It'll take AT&T forever to update their network. Apple is stupid to stay with only AT&T, with the 70 million customers that Veriozn has.
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I've wanted to shit on my phone and burn it to the ground for lack of reception and shitty 3G data transfer rates. Seriously, it's so damn spotty I hate my phone so much.

The iPhone is great but every day that goes by makes me want to switch to the Nexus One (on Verizon). I don't need a store front, I just want YouTube to work in the gym and noticeable improvements in covereage, but nope! I've had an iphone since the first release and it's practically the same shit network.

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Originally Posted by amisconception
I've wanted to shit on my phone and burn it to the ground for lack of reception and shitty 3G data transfer rates. Seriously, it's so damn spotty I hate my phone so much.

The iPhone is great but every day that goes by makes me want to switch to the Nexus One (on Verizon). I don't need a store front, I just want YouTube to work in the gym and noticeable improvements in covereage, but nope! I've had an iphone since the first release and it's practically the same shit network.

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The nexus is a beast. It's comforting knowing that the software hasn't even caught up with the hardware yet. My Nexus has the same processing power that the ipad has
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Originally Posted by amisconception
I've wanted to shit on my phone and burn it to the ground for lack of reception and shitty 3G data transfer rates. Seriously, it's so damn spotty I hate my phone so much.

The iPhone is great but every day that goes by makes me want to switch to the Nexus One (on Verizon). I don't need a store front, I just want YouTube to work in the gym and noticeable improvements in covereage, but nope! I've had an iphone since the first release and it's practically the same shit network.

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yeah, what an oxymoron....
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
The nexus is a beast. It's comforting knowing that the software hasn't even caught up with the hardware yet. My Nexus has the same processing power that the ipad has
really? I've read all over the place about problems with its 3G reception and user support. This is just one link:

http://www.wirelessweek.com/News/201...e-Smartphones/

Forums on both Google's and T-Mobile's Web sites have been flooded with complaints in recent days that the Nexus One is frequently unable to connect to T-Mobile's 3G network, reverting instead to the carrier's slower EDGE network.
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Originally Posted by srika
really? I've read all over the place about problems with its 3G reception and user support. This is just one link:

http://www.wirelessweek.com/News/201...e-Smartphones/
Yea, it's not perfect on the software level. Those are 3G issues are glitches with Android. The actual Nexus hardware, however, is top notch and nothing currently on the market can trump it.

Google has confirmed a patch is in the works and stated on the 25th that fix should be released via a OTA patch "possibly within a week"

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/g...ge-bugs-patch/
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
No I didn't, read the beginning of my post.
Why would you intentionally leave out a sizable portion of the tech market.

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You'll end up spending just as much or more to have a windows laptop, and the one to replace it 3 years because its too outdated.

I've only EVER replaced my laptop because I wanted to, not because I HAD too.

Sold my first Ti powerbook to a friend after 5 years of owning, it lasted another 3.

Gave my 2nd Al powerbook to my mother in law after having it for 6 years, she uses it and loves it.

Now on my current 12" MBP til whenever I decide to dump it.

They just last and work.
I'd honestly rather spend a fraction of the money every three years than have to take out a car-sized loan up front for the MBP.

It's a fantastic product. Absolutely fantastic. But I'd be happier with another laptop with the same size screen and a 94 Z28.

Outdated is a frame of mind. I can still do a ton of stuff on a 2000-era Toshiba Satellite. My DIY PC build lasted five years, and I am still using it as a HTPC.

It's not really a PC vs Mac argument - I didn't intend for it to be. But a MBP is an investment.
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How can they say this does HD youtube if the display is 1024x768 and HD is a minimum 1280x720. I'm not really liking the 4:3 aspect ratio.
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omg look at those amazing transitions!!!!
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
How can they say this does HD youtube if the display is 1024x768 and HD is a minimum 1280x720. I'm not really liking the 4:3 aspect ratio.
Youtube HD doesn't display in native HD formats - it's just HD quality video in a smaller window. So yes, it can play just fine on 1024x768
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the name makes it sound like an apple branded tampon, but this could be useful in something like the healthcare field, take it in to patient's room and update the chart right there
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
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How can they say this does HD youtube if the display is 1024x768 and HD is a minimum 1280x720. I'm not really liking the 4:3 aspect ratio.
If you ask the ATSC, it's not HD. If you ask the CEA, it is.
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don't think so, pretty sure it's LCD.
Its LED, might not be OLED, but its LED.
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Originally Posted by srika
Youtube HD doesn't display in native HD formats - it's just HD quality video in a smaller window. So yes, it can play just fine on 1024x768
So then it's not in HD. You can't play an HD video on a non HD screen at an HD resolution. I can play a blu-ray on my 27in 4:3 tube TV and it won't be HD even though the source file is
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IPS LCD with capacitive touchscreen and LED backlight
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Originally Posted by Arcticcl9
I was hoping, like a netbook, it was a do all machine. If you created a presentation in Keynote, you will need another computer to present it. You can't present it in with the iPad. You would need a video out/HDMI out to connect to a projector. Doing that is like trying to sell your website on an iphone. Who does a conference meeting in a 10 inch screen?
I love how everyone is, again, bitching and crying with out all the info even being released yet.

YES, the ipad will be able to output, it was designed with that in mind and will have a video connection kit. Hopefully, at a higher res than 480p.
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Unfortunately, that will most likely be at least a $50 cable again.

I hate that they chipped the cables.
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
So then it's not in HD. You can't play an HD video on a non HD screen at an HD resolution. I can play a blu-ray on my 27in 4:3 tube TV and it won't be HD even though the source file is
You're talking literally. The video sites play the files in HD, but they are downsized. So the videos look good, but they are not in any true HD format. Some sites like Vimeo let you (or used to let you, dunno if they are still doing it) download the original HD file. But other than that, no you are not going to see a native 720p or 1080p HD player within a web window (as far as I know).

You know what, I think Youtube changed something. It used to be able to play in "real" 720p dimension, now when I choose 720p (it used to just say "HD") the size doesn't change. I tried Firefox, Chrome, and IE. Can you guys see if that's the case for you?
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Here's the USB and SD adapters. I still don't understand why they just didn't add USB ports from the get go. They call it a camera adapter. Does that mean it only supports camera connectivity through the USB port?

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Originally Posted by Speed_Racer
Here's the USB and SD adapters. I still don't understand why they just didn't add USB ports from the get go. They call it a camera adapter. Does that mean it only supports camera connectivity through the USB port?

hmm.. I guess its better than nothing. And I'm gonna theorize why they didn't give USB ports. because they know people would start modding those to all hell.
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Originally Posted by srika
You're talking literally. The video sites play the files in HD, but they are downsized. So the videos look good, but they are not in any true HD format. Some sites like Vimeo let you (or used to let you, dunno if they are still doing it) download the original HD file. But other than that, no you are not going to see a native 720p or 1080p HD player within a web window (as far as I know).

You know what, I think Youtube changed something. It used to be able to play in "real" 720p dimension, now when I choose 720p (it used to just say "HD") the size doesn't change. I tried Firefox, Chrome, and IE. Can you guys see if that's the case for you?
IMO, HD doesn't matter so much as the image ratio. 4:3 is good for the web, but not so much for movies. It's not like they're making a lot of 4:3 TV's these days...
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IMO, HD doesn't matter so much as the image ratio. 4:3 is good for the web, but not so much for movies. It's not like they're making a lot of 4:3 TV's these days...
well wouldn't they just play in a letterbox?
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IMO, HD doesn't matter so much as the image ratio. 4:3 is good for the web, but not so much for movies. It's not like they're making a lot of 4:3 TV's these days...
Really.

You really think the movies are going to play in 4:3???

COME ON!

Jesus Christ.

Does the Iphone play movies full screen? Yes....IF I TELL IT TO DO SO! Otherwise it display the natural aspect ratios.

The ipad will display movies at what its natural aspect ratio is be it 16x9 or 2.40.

The extra screen real estate will be nice because then all the video controls will be off in the masking and not right over your image.
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Here's the USB and SD adapters. I still don't understand why they just didn't add USB ports from the get go. They call it a camera adapter. Does that mean it only supports camera connectivity through the USB port?

Interesting... I wonder if that USB dongle will work with any device or just cameras? I guess time will tell...
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Interesting... I wonder if that USB dongle will work with any device or just cameras? I guess time will tell...
I'm guessing for now it will work with the photo app and whatever camera interfaces are built in.

I would also guess people will figure out how to use apps to make more use of it....bar code scanning, etc.
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Really.

You really think the movies are going to play in 4:3???

COME ON!

Jesus Christ.

Does the Iphone play movies full screen? Yes....IF I TELL IT TO DO SO! Otherwise it display the natural aspect ratios.

The ipad will display movies at what its natural aspect ratio is be it 16x9 or 2.40.

The extra screen real estate will be nice because then all the video controls will be off in the masking and not right over your image.
My point is, I don't think watching movies is a priority for this product. Everything in their lineup has a widescreen display, but this one has a 4:3. I'm sure you can watch heavily letterboxed, but that's throwing resolution at black bars rather than movie data.

It'll be easier to read a book and browse the web, but I wouldn't choose it to watch movies. Given the choice between playing true 720P video on a 4:3 display or quasi-HD video on a 16:9, I'd take 16:9.
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It'll be easier to read a book and browse the web, but I wouldn't choose it to watch movies. Given the choice between playing true 720P video on a 4:3 display or quasi-HD video on a 16:9, I'd take 16:9.
On an airplane you'd watch a movie on this.

Aside from that, you really dont know what you're talking about.

Did you go see the last 2 star wars prequels in the movie theater? Did someone tell these movies were shot on progressive scan 1080x1920HD cameras?

Yes, they were....Did you notice what aspect ratio the movies are shown in? Not 16x9. Nope, they were shot with the known fact they would cropped and lose a little bit of vertical resolution to maintain the 2.40 aspect ratio of the original trilogy.

Did you notice this lost of vertical resolution? Bullshit if you even try and say you did.

Now tell me, when watching a movie on a screen thats 9.7 inches that you are going to notice ANY loss of resolution on a screen of densely packed pixels when watching an "HD" movie. Because I'll call you out on that bullshit again.

The few lines of vertical resolution is negligible, especially on a screen that size. The horizontal resolution is the same.

Anyone here bitch and cry on their nice bigscreen HD TVs when they watch movies that were shot 2.40 and you get that tiny bit of masking at the top and bottom? No? Didnt think so.

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Why can't you hook it up to Itunes and transfer pics from Itunes to the thing?
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Why can't you hook it up to Itunes and transfer pics from Itunes to the thing?
Who said you couldnt.

Bu tif I''m out someone where and I want to see my pictures on something bigger than a 3" screen, Its cool be able to load them straight to the pad.

Its not a new concept. Pros usually have a whole set up with them including a cinema display or some equivalent to show clients on commercial shoots.
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
On an airplane you'd watch a movie on this.

Aside from that, you really dont know what you're talking about.

Did you go see the last 2 star wars prequels in the movie theater? Did someone tell these movies were shot on progressive scan 1080x1920HD cameras?

Yes, they were....Did you notice what aspect ratio the movies are shown in? Not 16x9. Nope, they were shot with the known fact they would cropped and lose a little bit of vertical resolution to maintain the 2.40 aspect ratio of the original trilogy.

Did you notice this lost of vertical resolution? Bullshit if you even try and say you did.

Now tell me, when watching a movie on a screen thats 9.7 inches that you are going to notice ANY loss of resolution on a screen of densely packed pixels when watching an "HD" movie. Because I'll call you out on that bullshit again.

The few lines of vertical resolution is negligible, especially on a screen that size. The horizontal resolution is the same.

Anyone here bitch and cry on their nice bigscreen HD TVs when they watch movies that were shot 2.40 and you get that tiny bit of masking at the top and bottom? No? Didnt think so.

I think you're just being argumentative now. To me, it looks like they made this device for web browsing and book reading, with video somewhere down the list. If video was a priority, it would have been 16:9, and you know that.
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I think you're just being argumentative now. To me, it looks like they made this device for web browsing and book reading and Need for Speed: Shift, with video somewhere down the list. If video was a priority, it would have been 16:9, and you know that.
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
I think you're just being argumentative now. To me, it looks like they made this device for web browsing and book reading, with video somewhere down the list. If video was a priority, it would have been 16:9, and you know that.
Thats a different argument and one I would agree with, but at same time one can argue the same with photography. Do you shoot in 4:3?

I would have have rather had a less "square" shaped ipad. No clue why they didnt go that route. But they did. And in the end it has no real effect on the movie watching experience on the device.
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