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05-11-2006, 12:37 PM
#441
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
Looking forward to the Sox game at 4 
Damn westcoast fans screwing with me
05-11-2006, 12:48 PM
#442
Senior Moderator
Speaking of Mr. Clemens....
From: http://bostondirtdogs.com/
From: http://bostondirtdogs.com/
Originally Posted by Eck.
Roger That Eck. Enough is Enough.
"Don't fake pump me. I don't want to hear about your kids. I'm sick of it. I don't want to hear about it anymore." -- 5.9.06, Dennis Eckersley on this tiresome Clemens money grab travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham
"Don't fake pump me. I don't want to hear about your kids. I'm sick of it. I don't want to hear about it anymore." -- 5.9.06, Dennis Eckersley on this tiresome Clemens money grab travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham
05-11-2006, 01:07 PM
#443
Tristate ViP Crew
Originally Posted by GreenMonster
05-12-2006, 09:11 AM
#449
Engineer
sucks for matsui... he is one of those guys, who as much as hate as a yankee, i would love to have him on the sox...
same goes with jeter
same goes with jeter
Matsui always seemed to get to us. Can't say his injury was any big disappointment for me.
05-12-2006, 09:18 AM
#452
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by fuzzy02CLS
Yankees had their chances to win that one. No excuses! Damn shame about Matsui. 
Great game, but it sucks about Matsui... I can't watch the replays without winching... That looked like it hurt... alot...
The Sox have lost a couple of pitchers (Wells and Arroyo) and an outfielder (Coco Crisp) and seem to be managing, so don't count the yanks out yet
05-12-2006, 09:27 AM
#453
Originally Posted by CL Platano
Gotta say though the outfielders did well last night robbing 2 homers
I was all but convinced that it was over for us after those plays, and after stranding 10 runners after 5 innings. 
05-12-2006, 10:09 AM
#454
Benchwarmer
Originally Posted by CL Platano
muder fugen shiz...Matsui fractures his wrist and Sheffield is out too, its gonna be a rough couple of months in Da Bx
I think I'll join everyone else in K.C., Pittsburgh, Milwaukee, etc. reaching for our violins....
Maybe you guys could start some sort of fundraiser to help pay for his replacement... maybe a bake sale or a can drive or something.
05-12-2006, 02:24 PM
#456
About Matsui (from my SI e-mail):
518 Consecutive games streak for Yankees outfielder Hideki Matsui, which ended last night when he broke his left wrist trying for a diving catch in the first inning of the Yankees' 5-3 loss to the Red Sox. Matsui, who will have surgery today, played in 1,250 consecutive games with Japan's Yomiuri Giants from 1994 to 2002, and in every game with New York since joining the team in 2003. His streak with the Yankees set the major league record to start a career and was the longest for the team since Lou Gehrig played in 2,130 straight games from 1925 to '39
518 Consecutive games streak for Yankees outfielder Hideki Matsui, which ended last night when he broke his left wrist trying for a diving catch in the first inning of the Yankees' 5-3 loss to the Red Sox. Matsui, who will have surgery today, played in 1,250 consecutive games with Japan's Yomiuri Giants from 1994 to 2002, and in every game with New York since joining the team in 2003. His streak with the Yankees set the major league record to start a career and was the longest for the team since Lou Gehrig played in 2,130 straight games from 1925 to '39
05-12-2006, 03:07 PM
#457
Senior Moderator
^ Well, watch the Yanks now trade their entire farm system and draft picks, wives, kids, grandkids, cars and etc. to get a player like Pujols or etc. 
05-12-2006, 03:09 PM
#458
Suzuka Master
Originally Posted by Yumchah
^ Well, watch the Yanks now trade their entire farm system and draft picks, wives, kids, grandkids, cars and etc. to get a player like Pujols or etc.
05-12-2006, 03:52 PM
#459
Tristate ViP Crew
Originally Posted by IlliNorge
I think I'll join everyone else in K.C., Pittsburgh, Milwaukee, etc. reaching for our violins....
..There are places outside the NY Metro area.
05-12-2006, 03:58 PM
#460
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by kurt_bradley
:ibtheyankeesgetsomewashedupguywithayearleftinhisc areerandpayhimwaytoomuchastheyalwaysdo:
05-12-2006, 04:14 PM
#461
Suzuka Master
Originally Posted by Yumchah
Originally Posted by yankees baseball blog
Yankees payroll 2006
Salaries include pro-rated signing bonuses (NY Post)
Derek Jeter $20,600,000 There is a better way to spend that much on 2 guys per season
Jason Giambi $20,428,572 $20M for that guy?
Mike Mussina $19,000,000
Randy Johnson $16,000,000
Alex Rodriguez $15,000,000
Johnny Damon $13,000,000
Hideki Matsui $13,000,000 Yesterday may really make them want to rethink that paycheck
Gary Sheffield $13,000,000 to sit on the DL
Jorge Posada $12,000,000 <-- no way is he worth that much
Mariano Rivera $10,500,000
Carl Pavano $8,000,000 <-- are you kidding me?
Jaret Wright $7,666,667
Kyle Farnsworth $5,416,667
Shawn Chacon $3,600,000
Javier Vazquez $3,000,000
Ron Villone $2,250,000 <-- who is this guy?
Octavio Dotel $2,000,000
Tanyon Sturtze $1,500,000
Bernie Williams $1,500,000
Aaron Small $1,200,000
Mike Myers $1,150,000
Miguel Cairo $1,000,000
Tony Womack $900,000
Kelly Stinnett $650,000
Robinson Cano $381,100
Bubba Crosby $354,250
Scott Proctor $353,675
Chien-Ming Wang $353,175
Andy Phillips $331,950
Wil Nieves $328,600
Team total $194,464,656
Salaries include pro-rated signing bonuses (NY Post)
Derek Jeter $20,600,000 There is a better way to spend that much on 2 guys per season
Jason Giambi $20,428,572 $20M for that guy?
Mike Mussina $19,000,000
Randy Johnson $16,000,000
Alex Rodriguez $15,000,000
Johnny Damon $13,000,000
Hideki Matsui $13,000,000 Yesterday may really make them want to rethink that paycheck
Gary Sheffield $13,000,000 to sit on the DL
Jorge Posada $12,000,000 <-- no way is he worth that much
Mariano Rivera $10,500,000
Carl Pavano $8,000,000 <-- are you kidding me?
Jaret Wright $7,666,667
Kyle Farnsworth $5,416,667
Shawn Chacon $3,600,000
Javier Vazquez $3,000,000
Ron Villone $2,250,000 <-- who is this guy?
Octavio Dotel $2,000,000
Tanyon Sturtze $1,500,000
Bernie Williams $1,500,000
Aaron Small $1,200,000
Mike Myers $1,150,000
Miguel Cairo $1,000,000
Tony Womack $900,000
Kelly Stinnett $650,000
Robinson Cano $381,100
Bubba Crosby $354,250
Scott Proctor $353,675
Chien-Ming Wang $353,175
Andy Phillips $331,950
Wil Nieves $328,600
Team total $194,464,656
Originally Posted by USA Today
2005 / New York Yankees
Player Salary Position
Brown, Kevin $ 15,714,286 Ha!
Crosby , Bubba $ 322,950
Flaherty, John $ 800,000
Giambi, Jason $ 13,428,571
Gordon, Tom $ 3,750,000
Jeter, Derek $ 19,600,000 Overrated.
from yanks fans Johnson, Randy $ 16,000,000
Karsay, Steve $ 6,000,000
Martinez, Tino $ 2,750,000
Matsui, Hideki $ 8,000,000
Mussina, Mike $ 19,000,000
Pavano, Carl $ 9,000,000
Phillips, Andy $ 317,200
Posada, Jorge $ 11,000,000 We've covered this one
Quantrill, Paul $ 3,000,000
Rivera, Mariano $ 10,500,000
Rodriguez, Alex $ 26,000,000
Rodriguez, Felix $ 3,150,000
Sanchez, Rey $ 600,000
Sheffield, Gary $ 13,000,000 No effin' way!
Sierra, Ruben $ 1,500,000
Stanton, Mike $ 4,000,000 Washed up
Sturtze, Tanyon $ 850,000
Williams, Bernie $ 12,357,143 Waaay too much!
Womack, Tony $ 2,000,000
Wright, Jaret $ 5,666,667 What a waste.
05-12-2006, 04:28 PM
#462
Engineer
isnt AROD making like 25mil or something? it looks right in 2005, did he take a deduction for 2006?
05-12-2006, 04:33 PM
#463
Suzuka Master
Originally Posted by savage
isnt AROD making like 25mil or something? it looks right in 2005, did he take a deduction for 2006?
05-12-2006, 04:34 PM
#464
Tristate ViP Crew
Originally Posted by kurt_bradley
Let's run down the list on the last 2 seasons of the Yankees payroll and see if anything looks weird...
Over a billion spent in payroll since their last title. New curse anyone? Steinbrenner and Cashman are complete fucking idiots.
Over a billion spent in payroll since their last title. New curse anyone? Steinbrenner and Cashman are complete fucking idiots.
05-12-2006, 04:35 PM
#465
Suzuka Master
Originally Posted by CL Platano
Cashman isn't the idiot , it's Steinbrenner. Cashman understands the concept of the growing your farm system Steinbrenner is like your typical New Yorker everything is now.All professional athletes are over paid..really 1mil to throw, catch, and hit a ball is ridiculous.
05-12-2006, 04:38 PM
#466
Benchwarmer
Nah, you really can't say Steinbrenner is an idiot. Maybe a bad businessman, but not an idiot. At least he puts the revenues back into the team in the form of salaries, and he and the Yankees are great for baseball.
That being said, I hate the Yankees. I hate the way Giambi and Sheffield somehow get away with steroids living in the biggest media market in the world. I hate the Rodriguez persona. I hate the way guys like Johnson and Giambi and Damon sign with the Yankees under the pretense of "mystique" when it's really "my$tique". If that team plane ever goes down, I hope only Jeter and Rivera have parachutes. Those two guys can play for my Twins any day.
That being said, I hate the Yankees. I hate the way Giambi and Sheffield somehow get away with steroids living in the biggest media market in the world. I hate the Rodriguez persona. I hate the way guys like Johnson and Giambi and Damon sign with the Yankees under the pretense of "mystique" when it's really "my$tique". If that team plane ever goes down, I hope only Jeter and Rivera have parachutes. Those two guys can play for my Twins any day.
05-12-2006, 05:10 PM
#467
Senior Moderator
Since we're on the topic of the Yanks, anyone else kinda curious how Giambi got his hitting groove back? Or that "miraculous" turnaround last season...?
I think he's cheating.
I think he's cheating.
05-12-2006, 05:39 PM
#468
Originally Posted by savage
isnt AROD making like 25mil or something? it looks right in 2005, did he take a deduction for 2006?
05-12-2006, 05:43 PM
#469
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fuck A-rod, fuck giambi too, neither of them belongs there. Damon can go back to boston anytime he wants, although I can't say I'm dissappointed since he's made some catches this season that nobody on the roster before him would have made. Johnson can go too. Scheffield, I am indifferent towards.
Oh and someone please take the glove away from Bernie, hide it, burn it, throw it in the Hudson, just don't let him have it.
Oh and someone please take the glove away from Bernie, hide it, burn it, throw it in the Hudson, just don't let him have it.
05-12-2006, 05:59 PM
#470
Originally Posted by kurt_bradley
It's still Cashman sitting on the other side of (or under) the table with these agents working the deals and signing them up. He could attempt to draw the line a bit.
Matsui got $21MM over 3 years which was a steal.
Sheff got $39MM but i think he had his choice at 3 otehr teams for like $36MM, so they really didnt overpay. That was the year Vlad was available and he got $75 for 5 years.
Giambi was one contract which they blew away all the others. I think they offered $40MM more than waht Oakland offered.
And Mussina's contract, was it for like close to $90MM?? Look at the big contract pitchers of that time, Hamptons contract (was it like $80MM?) with Colorado, KBrown's and Chan Ho's $15MM per?
Now Damon isnt a $13MM a year player, but is Beltran worth his $17MM per? id rather over pay for 3 years than 7 years
They had the money to blow, so they did
WHich makes us go buy tickets to see the game and blow tons more $$ on food and drinks there.
05-12-2006, 07:36 PM
#472
Ok, since i'm still stucka t work being productive, Ive compiled a list of otehr major FA signings/extensions to justify some Yankee salaries
Salaries hit their peak in 2000-2002 .
Look at the 01 signings of pitchers with big contracts, Moose, Neagle, Hampton. Think about that.
Look at the 02 signings. Giambi and posada. Bagwell was worth the money, Rolen, . But then Kendal, a better deal than posada? and then Sweeney the year after that.
Time to leave work, will debate more later
A Rod 10 yrs 252MM 2001-2010 Texas pays a total of 67M of his salaries from 2004 to 10:
Derek Jeter: 10-Year worth 189M signed on 2001- 2010
Mike Mussina: 6-Year worth 88.5M- 2001-2006
Jason Giambi: 7-Year worth 120M- 2002-2009
Jorge Posada: 5-Year worth 51M- 2002 – 2006
------------------------------------------------------------------
Bernie Williams 7 years $87.5M 1999-2005
Kevin Brown: 7 Years worth 105M 1999-2005
Sammy Sosa: 4-Year worth 72M- 2002 - 2005
Miguel Tejada: 6-Year worth 72M 2004 -2009
Manny Ramirez: 8-year deal 160M 2000- 2008
Mike Sweeney: 5-Year worth 55M- 2003 and 2007
Magglio Ordonez: 5-year worth 75M on 2005 - 2009
Bobby Abreu: 5 years worth 64M 2003 2008
Pat Burrell: 6-year deal worth 50M in 2003- 2007
Carlos Beltran: 7-year deal worth 119M 2005 -2011
Mike Hampton - 8-Year worth 121M- 2001 – 2008
Andrew Jones - 6-Year worth 75M- 2002 -2007
Chipper Jones: 6-Year worth 90M 2000-2006
Jim Edmonds: 6-Year worth 57M- 2001 -2007-
Alberto Pujols: 7-Year worth 100M- 2004 – 2010
Scott Rolen: 8-Year worth 90M thru 2002 – 2010
Jeff Bagwell - 5 Years worth 85M- 2002- 2007
Ken Griffey Jr.: 9-Year worth 116.5M- 2000 -2008
Eric Chavez - 6-Year worth 66M 2004- 2010
Jason Kendall: 6-Year worth 60M- 2002- 2007
Barry Bonds - 5 Years worth 90M- 2002-2007
Todd Helton: 9-Year worth 141.5M- 2003 -2012
Denny Neagle: 5-Year worth 51M- 2001 -2006
Chan Ho Park: 5-Year worth 65M- 2002 -2006
Mike Pizza: 7 years 91M – 1998 – 2005
Mo Vaughn: 6 years 80M -1999-2005
Jim Thome: 6 years/$85M 2003-08
Salaries hit their peak in 2000-2002 .
Look at the 01 signings of pitchers with big contracts, Moose, Neagle, Hampton. Think about that.
Look at the 02 signings. Giambi and posada. Bagwell was worth the money, Rolen, . But then Kendal, a better deal than posada?
and then Sweeney the year after that. Time to leave work, will debate more later
A Rod 10 yrs 252MM 2001-2010 Texas pays a total of 67M of his salaries from 2004 to 10:
Derek Jeter: 10-Year worth 189M signed on 2001- 2010
Mike Mussina: 6-Year worth 88.5M- 2001-2006
Jason Giambi: 7-Year worth 120M- 2002-2009
Jorge Posada: 5-Year worth 51M- 2002 – 2006
------------------------------------------------------------------
Bernie Williams 7 years $87.5M 1999-2005
Kevin Brown: 7 Years worth 105M 1999-2005
Sammy Sosa: 4-Year worth 72M- 2002 - 2005
Miguel Tejada: 6-Year worth 72M 2004 -2009
Manny Ramirez: 8-year deal 160M 2000- 2008
Mike Sweeney: 5-Year worth 55M- 2003 and 2007
Magglio Ordonez: 5-year worth 75M on 2005 - 2009
Bobby Abreu: 5 years worth 64M 2003 2008
Pat Burrell: 6-year deal worth 50M in 2003- 2007
Carlos Beltran: 7-year deal worth 119M 2005 -2011
Mike Hampton - 8-Year worth 121M- 2001 – 2008
Andrew Jones - 6-Year worth 75M- 2002 -2007
Chipper Jones: 6-Year worth 90M 2000-2006
Jim Edmonds: 6-Year worth 57M- 2001 -2007-
Alberto Pujols: 7-Year worth 100M- 2004 – 2010
Scott Rolen: 8-Year worth 90M thru 2002 – 2010
Jeff Bagwell - 5 Years worth 85M- 2002- 2007
Ken Griffey Jr.: 9-Year worth 116.5M- 2000 -2008
Eric Chavez - 6-Year worth 66M 2004- 2010
Jason Kendall: 6-Year worth 60M- 2002- 2007
Barry Bonds - 5 Years worth 90M- 2002-2007
Todd Helton: 9-Year worth 141.5M- 2003 -2012
Denny Neagle: 5-Year worth 51M- 2001 -2006
Chan Ho Park: 5-Year worth 65M- 2002 -2006
Mike Pizza: 7 years 91M – 1998 – 2005
Mo Vaughn: 6 years 80M -1999-2005
Jim Thome: 6 years/$85M 2003-08
05-12-2006, 08:10 PM
#473
Damn!!!!! What's with all the Yankee haters 
You guys just upset cause these guys aren't playing for your teams
Any other team that draws & has the history the Yankees have should spend the $$ if they have it. The yankees have done GREAT things for Baseball, & NYC.
You don't think that if the Bluejays had 200 mil to spend they wouldn't snatch up every player they could?
You guys just upset cause these guys aren't playing for your teams
Any other team that draws & has the history the Yankees have should spend the $$ if they have it. The yankees have done GREAT things for Baseball, & NYC.
You don't think that if the Bluejays had 200 mil to spend they wouldn't snatch up every player they could?
05-12-2006, 08:12 PM
#474
Suzuka Master
Originally Posted by fuzzy02CLS
You guys just upset cause these guys aren't playing for your teams
05-12-2006, 10:32 PM
#476
Suzuka Master
Originally Posted by fuzzy02CLS
Yeah And???????
05-13-2006, 12:45 PM
#477
My point... Get off of it. The Yankess had 4 bad games in a row, they got owned, they screwed up, they, they, they,..........
Come up with something new please.
Lets not forget the Sox lost the division the next year, Swept BTW, & couldn't repeat.
Come up with something new please.
Lets not forget the Sox lost the division the next year, Swept BTW, & couldn't repeat.
