ccannizz11

If they're both 100%, that might happen against detroit.

CrockPot

yes, laettener makes a fine small forward.

Bulldog01

Why not see if Danny Ferry is available.

agranado

well shit when you've got shaq and zo in there... It would look pretty intimdating heheh.

Udonis Haslem's a pimp too.

-Alex

w1n78

detroit's big guys:
- ben wallace
- rasheed wallace
- elden campbell
- antonio mcdyess
- darko milicic

even if shaq and alonzo were 100% and/or play at the same time, detroit has too many big men to throw at them. detroit's "d" is no joke. heck, you can even add darvin ham to that list at 6'7" 240 lbs. he's like charles barkley (not as good but frame wise). detroit is looking more and more like a defending champion team in the playoffs.

and damn, why the hell they did put the bulls game on NBA tv. us poor people can't afford that channel. guess i'm stuck watching the phoenix game on tnt . though marion is my favorite player off that team. hope he plays tonight after spraining that wrist.

teg_to_bike

Detroit D > *

Detriot v. Miami -> Detroit in 6.

Amoeba

Do I have the $20 bet with you? I know its with 2 guys on here, if its you be prepared to lose it, you cant shut down wade and shaq at the same time.

teg_to_bike

No, you dont have a bet with me... and were talking about the same team that shut down shaq, kobe, payton, and malone (when he has healthy).

ccannizz11

Um, that wasn't a team they shut down, that was a bunch of individuals. Miami is a team, which is exponentially harder to "shut down".

Amoeba

Payton sucks, they didnt have weapons like damon jones and eddie jones either

teg_to_bike

we'll just have to wait and see... San Antonio, Detroit, Phoenix, and Chicago are the fourteams I see that have the best team chemistry right now. Chicago is the only team which doesnt have enough talent to go all the way, and I question Phoenix's defense.

Miami is good, really good, but they havent proven to me that they are championship material.

w1n78

i'd bet but neither are my team. i'm not saying miami sucks. but even barkley and k smith have no idea how they would play against detroit. as far as wade goes, from your post, you're saying that prince can't handle wade? doubt they'll put hamilton on wade. but we're looking too far into the future. these guys won't even have a chance to play until the conference finals (if they both make it out of the second round)

so let's say detroit and miami make it out of the first round - which it seems like they will 2-0 against they're opponents

2nd round:
detroit's 2nd round is a lot harder than miami's 2nd round. detroit will have to face either boston or indiana while miami will face chicago or washington (both teams lack playoff experience and none have been in the playoffs for more than 6 seasons - bulls 1998 and washington, i can't even remember, maybe late 80s early 90s)

fatigue may play a big part in the alleged conference finals match up. if detroit doesn't sweep or take it in game 5 in the 2nd round, miami may have an advantage (assuming miami sweeps or win in 5 games in the 2nd round)

to beat a defensive team, you must match it with defense

teg_to_bike

..and the last time wash was in the playoffs was 97.... and they were swept by the bulls

w1n78

ah, thanks i was way off on that one. i'm ashamed i forgot that one, yet i'm a bulls fun

cmark

Go Sonics!! I bet the Queens thought they lucked out when they drew us in the seeding!!

CL Platano

Spoken like a true Carolina fan...good one ..Laettner typical Duke forward who is scared of the post.

Amoeba

Yea heats defense sucks right , eddie jones, mourning, shaq, and wade are all good defensive players, and I cant wait for damon jones to light up detroit with his 3 point shooting, how are you going to defend that.

ccannizz11

Miami already has the advantage, they have Home Court.

With Shaq in the lineup, the two teams played twice in Detroit. Once detroit eeked out a 1 point win. The other time, Miami beat them by double digits. Not to mention Miami is almost unbeatable at home.

I say miami in 6 or 7 if they play detroit.

TheTriads

you can't. The only way for Heats to lose is if they get too cocky.

Now on the reverse topic. I'm in NJ, a sixers fan.

SIXERS SUCK!!! Last night's game is hilarious, sixers played like they're bunch of rookies.

Amoeba

Even when Wade doesnt produce in terms of shooting he still opens up so many opportunties, i think he had like 10 assists last night?

w1n78

different story in sacramento though. but sonics still have home court advantage. game 3 is important to both teams coz if kings get that momentum, sonics may have their hands full

agranado

forever

anyone who calls last year's lakers team a "team" is sorely mistaken. It was like watching a late 90s all-star game 82 times.

Chemistry is a huge part of it... I reference again the 2004 heat... holy shit that team didnt have a center, but they sure as hell had chemistry which is why they got as far as they did.

I still think that they could have beaten Indiana... probably not Detroit, but definitely the Indy series should've been alot closer. Alot of it was due to inexperience I think.

-Alex

agranado

did Danny Ferry make "The" Dream Team?

did Christian laettener?

pls thx gg

Amoeba

I dont like Laettner much, but he has been producing when he gets his playing time

Bulldog01

Your point escapes me.

Bulldog01

<---- Quien tener las tetas?

samkws

Miami will win if Wade stays healthy

w1n78

detroit 2-1 against miami
game 1: 11/26/2004 @ detroit: pistons 78, heat 77

both shaq and hamilton scored 24. ben wallace didn't play.
3pt shooting is 4-14 = .286 (miami)
pistons were out rebounded 47 vs 45

assists: tied at 18
pts in paint: miami 28, detroit 18

source: http://www.nba.com/games/20041126/miadet/boxscore.html

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game 2: 12/30/2004 @ detroit: pistons 78, heat 89
wade had a great game 31pts w/ 10 asst, none of detroit hit 20pts
3pt shooting is 1-12 = .083 (miami)
pistons outrebounded miami 43 vs 42
miami had 1 more assist than detroit 22 vs 21
pts in paint: miami 44 vs detroit 34
source: http://www.nba.com/games/20041230/miadet/boxscore.html

************************************************** ********
game 3: 4/10/2005 @ miami: pistons 80, heat 72
no one scored more than 20 pts and shaq didn't play and wade and d jones held to 10pts (3/21 shooting)
3pt shooting is 4-19 = .211 (miami)
rebounds tied at 48
asisst - pistons:18 miami: 10
pts in paint: pistons 38, miami 22
source: http://www.nba.com/games/20050410/detmia/boxscore.html

the 3pt shooting doesn't seem impressive nor a threat against detroit. d jones is in the top 5 in the 3pt category but against detroit, he's not. i'm not a fan of either team but i love basketball and i would love to see these 2 teams play in the conf finals. but the fact of the matter is, that the bulls will come out of the east

teg_to_bike

...besides, those are all regular season games.

Regular season != playoffs

ccannizz11

great ending to that post

cmark

it's hard for any team to win at Arco arena, that's for sure. However, we have done it before this season so nothing's impossible.

did you listen to Bibby answering reporters' questions? you can tell he and his team is totally dejected. they simply aren't playing as a team and he admitted that. unless they conjure up some team chemistry in the next couple of days, the kings are DONE.

w1n78

didn't get a chance to hear bibby, but if it's the same tone as iverson, then kings are in a lot of trouble

w1n78

true! but i was just answering renegade's post where he was referencing the regular season

either i forgot or too lazy to look, but who are you rooting for?

Doom878

Just proves we don't need 3pt shooting to beat Detroit.

Damon Jones is so underrated. He was 2nd in the league for total 3pt shots made but was only short by 1 3pointer from Kyle Korver Phi and Quentin Richardson Phx. Jones needed less attempts too.

I'm a Heat fan but I'm scared of Detroit. If we can shut down the outside shooting of Billups and Hamilton and Wade can get around Prince who's playing out of his mind then we're good.

Oh and don't sleep on Eddie Jones. He's shutting down Vince Carter who was averaging 30 when he got traded. And yes 6-16 21 pts in Game 2 but it's called garbage time.

teg_to_bike

Chi-town BABY!

For detroit v. miami... I still like detroit. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens...

w1n78

Doom878: ya shutting down those 2 may help beat them. but if billups is starting to have a bad game, he'll dish out assists and if hamilton is having a bad game, he'll get you in the charity stripe. i really hate to see them play chicago in the second round (if it happens)

teg_to_TSX: :iagreewithyou:

Yumcha

Bulls win again! Up 2-0...! And tonight, another hero emerged (Hinrich in Game 2 as compared to Nocioni in Game 1)...

Arram

sorry but the east sucks.. so boring.. now my rockets is a diff story

Amoeba

Yao Ming is gay

teg_to_bike

Kirk Hinrich > * BITCHES!!

Bring on Detroit!!