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Old 04-27-2005, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by teg_to_TSX
Kirk Hinrich > * BITCHES!!

Bring on Detroit!!
I was at the game tonight and it was amazing. Hinrich had a stellar game. I have never been to a Bulls playoff game and it was intense. Gilmore, Pipen, and Parrish were in attendence. Basketball is back in Chicago and I am loving it.
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Originally Posted by Maximized
I was at the game tonight and it was amazing. Hinrich had a stellar game. I have never been to a Bulls playoff game and it was intense. Gilmore, Pipen, and Parrish were in attendence. Basketball is back in Chicago and I am loving it.
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Old 04-28-2005, 07:42 AM
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First Round Stats:

East: MIA 2 NJN 0 DET 2 PHI 0 BOS 1 IND 1 CHI 2 WAS 0

West: PHX 2 MEM 0 SAS 1 DEN 1 SEA 2 SAC 0 DAL 0 HOU 2
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Originally Posted by NYZGREATST
never thought that. what do you guys think about the suns game tmw? i think last game was a fluke for the suns, this time they will crush em by way more.
:gheylaugh: not quite I guess


Honestly, I don't know a whole lot about the Suns, But I've seen both their playoff games so far, and they haven't impressed me much. They're athletic, and makes some great blocks and get up and down the floor, but they're just outscoring Memphis. If they had some sort of defense, they'd be blowing Memphis out by 20 every time.

Richardson did make a key well timed defensive play last night that probably won the game for them. But as it is, Gasol is dominating them inside, and Jason Williams can get by Nash anytime he wants. I expect Memphis to win one or maybe even both at home. But Good luck to the suns when they come up against Houston or SanAntonio.
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sorry but the east sucks.. so boring.. now my rockets is a diff story
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Old 04-28-2005, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ccannizz11
But Good luck to the suns when they come up against Houston or SanAntonio.
shouldn't that read 'Dallas or San Antonio'?

Gotta keep hope alive.

I'm putting on my flame suit right now.
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Originally Posted by mantis23
shouldn't that read 'Dallas or San Antonio'?

Gotta keep hope alive.


Sorry, I didn't leave them out because they're going to lose to Houston. I left them out because, much like the Sonics, they rely more on outscoring the other team than they do on solid defense. And I think the Suns hold the advantage in that area over both the Sonics and the Mavs. So good luck to the Mavs if they come up against the Suns
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There was one stretch in the Suns game last night in the 3rd quarter where Gasol was going nuts. He was dunking and playing defense like a madman. The announcer was talking about how Coach Fratello chewed him out and asked "do you really want to play" and boy did he respond. I fell asleep shortly after but I guess the intensity fell off in the 4th.
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Everyone is knocking the mavs on Defense, and traditionally they have never been known as a defensive team.

But defense is been their primary focus ever since Avery Johnson stepped in as head coach and they have made significant improvements in the defensive arena over the last season.

You can't go from bottom to the top defensively in a short span of time, but at least give them credit for making improvements in the area. No denying it though, their defense blows against Houston.

Fuckin' pick 'n rolls all night long, and they can't seem to do a damn thing about it. Good god.
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Originally Posted by Doom878
There was one stretch in the Suns game last night in the 3rd quarter where Gasol was going nuts. He was dunking and playing defense like a madman. The announcer was talking about how Coach Fratello chewed him out and asked "do you really want to play" and boy did he respond. I fell asleep shortly after but I guess the intensity fell off in the 4th.
Stoudemire stopped worrying about picking up his 4th foul once the 3rd quarter was over, and made it a bit more difficult for Gasol. After that, Memphis didn't switch their offense at all, they just kept trying to go down there. It worked still, but not quite as well. There was a lot of standing around down the stretch, very little movement on offense.
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I want Dallas to win so badly, but Houston is at the top of their game right now, and extremely tough to beat.

Guess I'll be out of $20.00 and sporting a damn Rockets avatar if Dallas doesn't turn things around.

which reminds me, Kobie, did you see the edit I made to our bet regarding team logos and avatars for the loser in your TVR / Lambo video thread?
Old 04-28-2005, 11:34 AM
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what's with bonzi and stromile getting the big fat DNPs?
Old 04-28-2005, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ccannizz11


Sorry, I didn't leave them out because they're going to lose to Houston. I left them out because, much like the Sonics, they rely more on outscoring the other team than they do on solid defense. And I think the Suns hold the advantage in that area over both the Sonics and the Mavs. So good luck to the Mavs if they come up against the Suns
in our 2 games against Sactown, we've been up by 20+ points which meant we STOPPED them from scoring. In other words: defense.
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Originally Posted by cmark
in our 2 games against Sactown, we've been up by 20+ points which meant we STOPPED them from scoring. In other words: defense.


like stopping Sac from scoring requires real defense
Old 04-28-2005, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ccannizz11


like stopping Sac from scoring requires real defense
so how did they win 50 games this year? obviously most teams couldn't stop them.


that's okay. just about everyone doesn't give respect when respect is due. the Sonics were expected to be a lottery team this year so just making it to the playoffs is making many experts eat crow.
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Originally Posted by cmark
so how did they win 50 games this year? obviously most teams couldn't stop them.


that's okay. just about everyone doesn't give respect when respect is due. the Sonics were expected to be a lottery team this year so just making it to the playoffs is making many experts eat crow.
I totally respect the sonics, in fact, ray allen is my favorite player.... Minnesota would pick him up when he becomes a free agent.

I didn't say they don't play defense, I just said that they rely primarily on outscoring their opponent to win ball games. It's not the Sonics I don't respect, it's the Kings.
Old 04-28-2005, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mantis23
I want Dallas to win so badly, but Houston is at the top of their game right now, and extremely tough to beat.

Guess I'll be out of $20.00 and sporting a damn Rockets avatar if Dallas doesn't turn things around.

which reminds me, Kobie, did you see the edit I made to our bet regarding team logos and avatars for the loser in your TVR / Lambo video thread?
I'm cool with it.
Old 04-28-2005, 06:41 PM
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I was reading the Chicago Tribune earlier today and it got me thinking. The question that popped up in my head was "Are the Bulls the future of the NBA". After thinking about it a bit I came up with these conclusions. The Bulls have a young team with a lot of potential. Gordon, Curry, and Hinrich could develop into superstars. Shaq called Curry "The next dominant center in the game"(parphrasing). Shaq usually doesn't say things like that, so I was impressed in that quote. Gordon needs some work on his defenesive skills and his game needs to mature a bit. Next, I looked at the supporting cast. Statistically, the Bulls bench is #1 in the league right now in scoring. We have a pretty extensive bench; kind of reminds me of the Championship years. The Bulls this year will get beat in the second round, but I am perfectly fine with this. The playoff experience for the team is valuable. If the team stays together, watch out!
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If the team stays together, watch out!

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OMMMMMGGGGG.....carter's shot falls....second OT here we go....
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Originally Posted by Maximized
The Bulls this year will get beat in the second round, but I am perfectly fine with this. The playoff experience for the team is valuable. If the team stays together, watch out!
i was agreeing with you until i read the end of your post. anything can happen. we're not even in the 2nd round. who knows, philly can turn around and beat the pistons, then would you change your mind? even if chicago meets detroit in the second round, the game starts at 0-0.

that's what's the best thing about sports, it's "real" reality tv. anything can happen. i still believe in the bulls and believe in them. i've been with them through rough times

- jordan's retirement
- pippen leaving and retiring
- losing jalen rose

that's what being a fan is all about
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Losing Jalen Rose was bad?
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Originally Posted by w1n78
i was agreeing with you until i read the end of your post. anything can happen. we're not even in the 2nd round. who knows, philly can turn around and beat the pistons, then would you change your mind? even if chicago meets detroit in the second round, the game starts at 0-0.

that's what's the best thing about sports, it's "real" reality tv. anything can happen. i still believe in the bulls and believe in them. i've been with them through rough times

- jordan's retirement
- pippen leaving and retiring
- losing jalen rose

that's what being a fan is all about
I am realistic....We are without Curry and Deng. I wish them the best, but they are facing some great teams.
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Originally Posted by Maximized
I was reading the Chicago Tribune earlier today and it got me thinking. The question that popped up in my head was "Are the Bulls the future of the NBA". After thinking about it a bit I came up with these conclusions. The Bulls have a young team with a lot of potential. Gordon, Curry, and Hinrich could develop into superstars. Shaq called Curry "The next dominant center in the game"(parphrasing). Shaq usually doesn't say things like that, so I was impressed in that quote. Gordon needs some work on his defenesive skills and his game needs to mature a bit. Next, I looked at the supporting cast. Statistically, the Bulls bench is #1 in the league right now in scoring. We have a pretty extensive bench; kind of reminds me of the Championship years. The Bulls this year will get beat in the second round, but I am perfectly fine with this. The playoff experience for the team is valuable. If the team stays together, watch out!


IMO, they have the best 6th (gordon), 7th (chandler), and 8th (nocioni) guy in the league.

Who were the stars of game 2? Pargo and Piatkowski? shiiit... there like the 10th and 11th guy on this team!
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Not so sure about Nocioni being "best 8th man".
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Originally Posted by Doom878
Not so sure about Nocioni being "best 8th man".
You guys in Miami are a bunch of Nocioni haters Van Gundy is a little baby and had to cry to the league because Nocioni actually plays defense. Now the guy is getting a bad wrap and being called a dirty player.
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Van Gundy was pissed because he over exerted himself on Wade our star player. Dirty or not it was still stupid and he was pissed they were getting their asses handed to them. Haslem straightened out the situation though.

Oh and he was also called dirty for his next stupid foul a few games later. Not to mention he has a rep in I think it was the Spain League that he was in as being dirty.

Besides guys like Eddie Jones, Zo, and Shandon Anderson know how to play defense without getting called dirty.
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Originally Posted by Doom878
Van Gundy was pissed because he over exerted himself on Wade our star player. Dirty or not it was still stupid and he was pissed they were getting their asses handed to them. Haslem straightened out the situation though.

Oh and he was also called dirty for his next stupid foul a few games later. Not to mention he has a rep in I think it was the Spain League that he was in as being dirty.

Besides guys like Eddie Jones, Zo, and Shandon Anderson know how to play defense without getting called dirty.
It was a minor scuffle that got blown out of proportion. Haslem pushed him from behind, which should have resulted in a technical. I think Nocioni's intensity gets him a little heat.

I didn't get a chance to watch the Detroit game where he elbowed Prince, but my dad said it looked unintentional.
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Right I agree it wasn't anything major but it was the Heat's perception as being more than that given the situation resulting in Van Gundy's "crying." Apparently Nocioni's intensity needs to be controlled.
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Originally Posted by Doom878
Apparently Nocioni's intensity needs to be controlled.
I disagree....He plays with heart, what's wrong with that.
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Control and heart are two different things. That's why he's considered dirty.
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Control and heart are two different things. That's why he's considered dirty.
Maybe the NBA has been watered down, but Nocioni is a drop in the bucket from teams in the 90s. Dennis Rodman makes him look like an alter boy.
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Originally Posted by Doom878
Not so sure about Nocioni being "best 8th man".


Please enlighten me on a better 8th man. The guy scored 25 points and grabbed 18 boards in his first playoff game.
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Please enlighten me on a better 8th man. The guy scored 25 points and grabbed 18 boards in his first playoff game.
So Nocioni who had one good playoff game is all of a sudden the best "8th man" in all of the NBA. While he actually started in all those games (I guess no more "8th man" ) he goes 4-12 for 10pts in Game 2. The same guy who all season averaged 8 pts and 4 boards. He's a guy that if he were in Dallas would play ahead of Jerry Stackhouse, Keith Van Horn, and Devin Harris because of one game right. A guy who in that one "spectacular game" didn't even hit half of his shots (8-18). You Bulls fanboys are amazing. Still looking for Jordan huh.
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Originally Posted by Doom878
So Nocioni who had one good playoff game is all of a sudden the best "8th man" in all of the NBA. While he actually started in all those games (I guess no more "8th man" ) he goes 4-12 for 10pts in Game 2. The same guy who all season averaged 8 pts and 4 boards. He's a guy that if he were in Dallas would play ahead of Jerry Stackhouse, Keith Van Horn, and Devin Harris because of one game right. A guy who in that one "spectacular game" didn't even hit half of his shots (8-18). You Bulls fanboys are amazing. Still looking for Jordan huh.

Did I say he would play ahead of Stackhouse (dallas' 6th man)? no.
Did I say he would play ahead of Keith Van Horn (7th)? no.

Is he better than Devin Harris (8th)? YES.

Have you ever watched the guy play? He's got more energy and he's a better defender than all three of the above washouts combined.

.. and yeah, us "Bulls Fanboys" are amazing.
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Who cares bulls are going to lose next round even if your niocini guy produces


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