NFL: 2017 Season and Discussion Thead
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oo7spy (01-26-2018)
01-26-2018 | 03:39 PM
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I'm probably in the minority on this one but I like Cam overall. He's a very fun player to watch. Doesn't come across as cocky in my eyes, merely confident. I've always liked TD celebrations. But his sulking, moping, immaturity and that gaffe with the laptop or whatever in college are obvious knocks on him.
I liked his teammate Steve Smith way more by the same token. He talked a lot of trash, even to the camera, and he fought with teammates. However he played with a ton of fire and backed up whatever he said and was exciting to watch.
Segueing into another player with some similarities - TO. I enjoyed his play, celebrations, and swagger... right up until he became a locker room cancer and egomaniac. I relished in schadenfreude when he got snuffed for the HOF, even though I feel he should make it in now. Guess I'm more bothered by TO since it affected my own team? He's a drama queen off the field, and even during the offseason and retirement... not that I ever watched it, but remember his reality TV show?
I don't recall Cam ever imploding his team's locker room. TO is much more of a diva, and I enjoyed seeing his Eagles lose in the SB against the Patriots. Funny thing is, I'm rooting for PHI this time around.
I liked his teammate Steve Smith way more by the same token. He talked a lot of trash, even to the camera, and he fought with teammates. However he played with a ton of fire and backed up whatever he said and was exciting to watch.
Segueing into another player with some similarities - TO. I enjoyed his play, celebrations, and swagger... right up until he became a locker room cancer and egomaniac. I relished in schadenfreude when he got snuffed for the HOF, even though I feel he should make it in now. Guess I'm more bothered by TO since it affected my own team? He's a drama queen off the field, and even during the offseason and retirement... not that I ever watched it, but remember his reality TV show?
I don't recall Cam ever imploding his team's locker room. TO is much more of a diva, and I enjoyed seeing his Eagles lose in the SB against the Patriots. Funny thing is, I'm rooting for PHI this time around.
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01-26-2018 | 04:01 PM
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at knocking it down.
01-27-2018 | 02:29 PM
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Pretty sure we were on the same page the year that Cam went to the Super Bowl. I have nothing against him, by watching Von destroy him was priceless. Then again Von went to my alma mater, got drafted by my favorite pro team, and then won them a Super Bowl, so I’m a bit partial.
Admittedly it was a great showing by both defenses and inversely, awful play by both QBs. I didn't care for either team, so it made for a boring game.
People like to shit on Cam though, I am not sure why beyond any inherent rivalry.
People like to shit on Cam though, I am not sure why beyond any inherent rivalry.
01-27-2018 | 02:38 PM
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His demeanor when he plays makes it very easy categorize him as arrogant. But really it's just his style - easy for fans to love and easy for opponents to hate. Richard Sherman gets the same treatment. People look at the on-field antics and some of his post-game interviews and make a conclusion that's who he is. What they don't see is locally the guy is no-kidding intelligent, generous towards the community and very well spoken. I believe Cam is also. But both play with a lot of passion and what I'll call, "high school level of enthusiasm". Makes for an easy target for criticism.
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01-29-2018 | 02:35 PM
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His demeanor when he plays makes it very easy categorize him as arrogant. But really it's just his style - easy for fans to love and easy for opponents to hate. Richard Sherman gets the same treatment. People look at the on-field antics and some of his post-game interviews and make a conclusion that's who he is. What they don't see is locally the guy is no-kidding intelligent, generous towards the community and very well spoken. I believe Cam is also. But both play with a lot of passion and what I'll call, "high school level of enthusiasm". Makes for an easy target for criticism.
His whole "Sorry receiver like Crabtree" tirade birthed a lot of memes, but made me lose respect for him. I do understand he was really fired up though.
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oo7spy (01-29-2018)
01-29-2018 | 03:04 PM
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I definitely liked Sherman at one point despite the rivalry. He is a master troll. His parents are very kind people, according to rival fans who have met them.
His whole "Sorry receiver like Crabtree" tirade birthed a lot of memes, but made me lose respect for him. I do understand he was really fired up though.
His whole "Sorry receiver like Crabtree" tirade birthed a lot of memes, but made me lose respect for him. I do understand he was really fired up though.
01-29-2018 | 09:39 PM
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01-30-2018 | 01:17 PM
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I don't know......in the battle between Matt Patricia and Nick Foles, lets just say Foles should have locked himself in the film room for the last two weeks with only a cot and food slid under the door.
So for those Pats fans - just curious. What's the deal with both coordinators moving on to head coaching jobs? I guess it's an odd move to break in a new O coordinator with Brady arguably late in his career. Anyone think if he wins he'll retire? I suppose it's hard to say - no one in the organization is going to say much.
So for those Pats fans - just curious. What's the deal with both coordinators moving on to head coaching jobs? I guess it's an odd move to break in a new O coordinator with Brady arguably late in his career. Anyone think if he wins he'll retire? I suppose it's hard to say - no one in the organization is going to say much.
01-30-2018 | 01:25 PM
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Tough call on whether Brady will retire due to the departure of Josh McDaniels; Josh left for Denver a few years back and that didn't seem to negatively impact Brady to any great degree. Hell, it wouldn't surprise me if Brady has enough breadth of experience to be his own Offensive Coordinator.
01-30-2018 | 01:27 PM
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I don't know......in the battle between Matt Patricia and Nick Foles, lets just say Foles should have locked himself in the film room for the last two weeks with only a cot and food slid under the door.
So for those Pats fans - just curious. What's the deal with both coordinators moving on to head coaching jobs? I guess it's an odd move to break in a new O coordinator with Brady arguably late in his career. Anyone think if he wins he'll retire? I suppose it's hard to say - no one in the organization is going to say much.
So for those Pats fans - just curious. What's the deal with both coordinators moving on to head coaching jobs? I guess it's an odd move to break in a new O coordinator with Brady arguably late in his career. Anyone think if he wins he'll retire? I suppose it's hard to say - no one in the organization is going to say much.
01-30-2018 | 01:31 PM
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Strangely it's identical to 2004 when the pats lost both coordinators. Going forward Chad O'Shea(wr coach) will take over as OC and Flores(lb coach) for DC
0% chance Brady retires. His whole TB12 company and Tom vs Time documentary would all go to shit if he retired now. Also they just traded away the future in Jimmy G so I doubt he leaves Mr Kraft out to dry like that. Brady is f'ing crazy. Hes out to prove a point that he can play till hes 43-45yr old
0% chance Brady retires. His whole TB12 company and Tom vs Time documentary would all go to shit if he retired now. Also they just traded away the future in Jimmy G so I doubt he leaves Mr Kraft out to dry like that. Brady is f'ing crazy. Hes out to prove a point that he can play till hes 43-45yr old
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01-30-2018 | 03:24 PM
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I don't know......in the battle between Matt Patricia and Nick Foles, lets just say Foles should have locked himself in the film room for the last two weeks with only a cot and food slid under the door.
So for those Pats fans - just curious. What's the deal with both coordinators moving on to head coaching jobs? I guess it's an odd move to break in a new O coordinator with Brady arguably late in his career. Anyone think if he wins he'll retire? I suppose it's hard to say - no one in the organization is going to say much.
So for those Pats fans - just curious. What's the deal with both coordinators moving on to head coaching jobs? I guess it's an odd move to break in a new O coordinator with Brady arguably late in his career. Anyone think if he wins he'll retire? I suppose it's hard to say - no one in the organization is going to say much.
Tough call on whether Brady will retire due to the departure of Josh McDaniels; Josh left for Denver a few years back and that didn't seem to negatively impact Brady to any great degree. Hell, it wouldn't surprise me if Brady has enough breadth of experience to be his own Offensive Coordinator.
Strangely it's identical to 2004 when the pats lost both coordinators. Going forward Chad O'Shea(wr coach) will take over as OC and Flores(lb coach) for DC
0% chance Brady retires. His whole TB12 company and Tom vs Time documentary would all go to shit if he retired now. Also they just traded away the future in Jimmy G so I doubt he leaves Mr Kraft out to dry like that. Brady is f'ing crazy. Hes out to prove a point that he can play till hes 43-45yr old
0% chance Brady retires. His whole TB12 company and Tom vs Time documentary would all go to shit if he retired now. Also they just traded away the future in Jimmy G so I doubt he leaves Mr Kraft out to dry like that. Brady is f'ing crazy. Hes out to prove a point that he can play till hes 43-45yr old
01-30-2018 | 03:57 PM
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Strangely it's identical to 2004 when the pats lost both coordinators. Going forward Chad O'Shea(wr coach) will take over as OC and Flores(lb coach) for DC
0% chance Brady retires. His whole TB12 company and Tom vs Time documentary would all go to shit if he retired now. Also they just traded away the future in Jimmy G so I doubt he leaves Mr Kraft out to dry like that. Brady is f'ing crazy. Hes out to prove a point that he can play till hes 43-45yr old
0% chance Brady retires. His whole TB12 company and Tom vs Time documentary would all go to shit if he retired now. Also they just traded away the future in Jimmy G so I doubt he leaves Mr Kraft out to dry like that. Brady is f'ing crazy. Hes out to prove a point that he can play till hes 43-45yr old
But all that said, I think you all are right that Brady probably view this as the beginning of a new chapter not the end of one. And it's not like Belichick is going anywhere. The new O and D coordinators are going to be handed a system with stern instructions not to screw it up.
I suppose Brady will be around until the heir apparent QB is fully groomed and ready to take over. Probably will take 2-3 years for that.
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Chiefs have reached an agreement to trade Alex Smith to Washington, per 
01-30-2018 | 09:01 PM
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From Schefter
QB Alex Smith and Washington now have reached an agreement on a new four-year contract extension, per sources. Smith, who had one year left on his contact, tied to Washington for next five seasons. Smith gets long-term deal from Washington that Cousins could not.
QB Alex Smith and Washington now have reached an agreement on a new four-year contract extension, per sources. Smith, who had one year left on his contact, tied to Washington for next five seasons. Smith gets long-term deal from Washington that Cousins could not.
01-30-2018 | 09:03 PM
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From Schefter
QB Alex Smith and Washington now have reached an agreement on a new four-year contract extension, per sources. Smith, who had one year left on his contact, tied to Washington for next five seasons. Smith gets long-term deal from Washington that Cousins could not.
QB Alex Smith and Washington now have reached an agreement on a new four-year contract extension, per sources. Smith, who had one year left on his contact, tied to Washington for next five seasons. Smith gets long-term deal from Washington that Cousins could not.
01-31-2018 | 06:03 PM
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And that’s 23 million per yrs, signed a five year, but most likely will be only three. and a top tier QB....,
Better than the ones coming to FA in March....
Teddy Bridgewater (25)
Case Keenum (30)
Sam Bradford (30)
Josh McCown (39)
Jay Cutler (34)
Blaine Gabbert (28)
Matt Moore (33)
Ryan Fitzpatrick (35)
Geno Smith (27)
Tom Savage (27)
Better than the ones coming to FA in March....
Teddy Bridgewater (25)
Case Keenum (30)
Sam Bradford (30)
Josh McCown (39)
Jay Cutler (34)
Blaine Gabbert (28)
Matt Moore (33)
Ryan Fitzpatrick (35)
Geno Smith (27)
Tom Savage (27)