NBA: 2016 Season News and Discussion Thread
#201
I agree with the second thing you said. However, I understand there really is no point in being a Memphis Grizzlies fan. Player collusion basically eliminates your team's chances of ever winning a title.
#202
I heard that too, not a way to win a championship. Also the half ass attempts to get back on defense. You're in the Finals, hustle your ass back and complain at a timeout or a break. Was a pretty good game overall, but if Kyrie didn't get hot it would have been a huge blowout again!
#204
Very curious to see what happens for next year. LeBron has 2 more years under contract then is a UFA in 2019. Will he leave or will they bring in others to replace the mediocre team they have?
#205
Thats the biggest gripe for the fans; guys who have been watching the team suck for years and see these dudes come out of nowhere now stating shit like, "Curry is a Top 5 PG". Bitch please, this dude spent his first 5 years not even Top 5 per season due to injury issues.
#206
In hockey, you have the Oilers and Islanders of the 80s. In MLB, you have the Yankees who bought their way to the World Series Titles...and now, in basketball, the start of it all with the "Big 3" in Miami.
I certainly don't hate the superteam idea...just look on in envy as the Bulls continue to be passed over and over by the best UFAs while they continue to mire in mediocrity. My bitterness at the "LeHeat" thing was more about how all 3 of those guys played Chicago and all the other teams as fools.
I was actually kinda happy for LeBron and Cleveland when they won last year. And as for Golden State, they were pretty much irrelevant for most of the franchise's time in the NBA...all I can remember pre-Splash Brothers was Chris Mullen.
#210
Technically Rodman once kicked the Bulls' asses on the Pistons, but then he left after the Bulls got their first threepeat, and later on joined the Bulls. Not on the same caliber of KD of course, but nonetheless paved the way to another threepeat.
#211
I understand if people have a gripe with KD joining a stacked roster, fresh off a 73 win season.
But don't be a hurr durr Cavs or LeBron fan and complain about a superteam because LeBron has done that twice now.
Curry, Thompson, and Green have been on the Warriors since day 1. LeBron went to free agency and joined up with two different faces of the franchise twice in his career. First with Wade and Bosh, then with Irving and Love.
But don't be a hurr durr Cavs or LeBron fan and complain about a superteam because LeBron has done that twice now.
Curry, Thompson, and Green have been on the Warriors since day 1. LeBron went to free agency and joined up with two different faces of the franchise twice in his career. First with Wade and Bosh, then with Irving and Love.
#212
Yup, per my post to Bond, the Pistons were actually the first "super team" I can remember (too young for the Celtics) that featured Thomas, Dumars, Rodman, Laimbeer, et al....they were freaking good. And kicked your teeth in physically too.
#213
I understand if people have a gripe with KD joining a stacked roster, fresh off a 73 win season.
But don't be a hurr durr Cavs or LeBron fan and complain about a superteam because LeBron has done that twice now.
Curry, Thompson, and Green have been on the Warriors since day 1. LeBron went to free agency and joined up with two different faces of the franchise twice in his career. First with Wade and Bosh, then with Irving and Love.
But don't be a hurr durr Cavs or LeBron fan and complain about a superteam because LeBron has done that twice now.
Curry, Thompson, and Green have been on the Warriors since day 1. LeBron went to free agency and joined up with two different faces of the franchise twice in his career. First with Wade and Bosh, then with Irving and Love.
Like I said, bringing up what LeBron did is just a way for GSW fans to justify KD's bitch move to join a 73-9, 3-1 lead team that should've won easily.
Last edited by Rick_TL-S; 06-08-2017 at 11:29 PM.
#215
The salary cap applies to all teams. Deal with it
I can't even imagine if LeBron joined the Celtics. That would make three different superteams that LeGM manufactured since we know what happens when he senses a sinking ship.
#216
#217
Won easily? Draymond was suspended thanks to refball. That pretty much sealed the deal for them. They should have suspended him in the WCF (definitely would have sealed the Warriors fate against the Thunder) but the NBA loves to help out LeBron.
The salary cap applies to all teams. Deal with it
I can't even imagine if LeBron joined the Celtics. That would make three different superteams that LeGM manufactured since we know what happens when he senses a sinking ship.
The salary cap applies to all teams. Deal with it
I can't even imagine if LeBron joined the Celtics. That would make three different superteams that LeGM manufactured since we know what happens when he senses a sinking ship.
Even then, Steph broke the 3-point record and Klay put up 37 in a QTR during the season; you're telling me the Splash-Bros couldn't find a way to win without Green? What's the excuse for Game 6? Curry & Klay shitting the bed whilst Green did what he could? Did the NBA tell Steph to pull off this sweet pass in Game 7? Klay's look even says it all.
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Sinking ship? Cavs had the best record in the league & the Heat had just won 2 out 4 straight Finals appearances. I didn't know GSW fans were still salty about choking harder than Bron in 2011.
#218
Dream, Barkley, Pippen
3 of those were drafted, Laimbeer acquired before he was an all star. Bad example of a super team in this context.
3 of those were drafted, Laimbeer acquired before he was an all star. Bad example of a super team in this context.
#219
I dunno... Lonzo Ball and Paul George will both probably end up with the Lakers. Throw in LeYumcha and it would make an interesting mix.
I'm a Boston fan so it would work for me... that would potentially clear a path to the Finals for the Celtics!
I'm a Boston fan so it would work for me... that would potentially clear a path to the Finals for the Celtics!
#220
Man, I forgot that Pippen went to the Rockets for about 5 minutes... But you can make a "superteam" case for the Olajuwon/Barkely/Drexler squad they had before that.
Barkley was cursed, LOL... First he just misses out on a title with the Sixers, joining them, what, a year too late? Then he joins the Rockets right after their 2nd consecutive championship, but gets screwed by Jordan's un-retirement (although I guess the Jazz we kind of a problem too)...
Barkley was cursed, LOL... First he just misses out on a title with the Sixers, joining them, what, a year too late? Then he joins the Rockets right after their 2nd consecutive championship, but gets screwed by Jordan's un-retirement (although I guess the Jazz we kind of a problem too)...
#221
Also, Boston has had a couple of "Big 3"s: before Garnett, Pierce and Allen there was Bird, McHale and Parrish.
Did their ridiculously dominant 60s squad have a Big 3? Russell, Cousy & Havlicheck, maybe??
Did their ridiculously dominant 60s squad have a Big 3? Russell, Cousy & Havlicheck, maybe??
#222
He got suspended Game 5 because he accumulated too many techs; maybe he should've stopped kicking players in the nuts and been more careful, something he admitted to recently.
Even then, Steph broke the 3-point record and Klay put up 37 in a QTR during the season; you're telling me the Splash-Bros couldn't find a way to win without Green? What's the excuse for Game 6? Curry & Klay shitting the bed whilst Green did what he could? Did the NBA tell Steph to pull off this sweet pass in Game 7? Klay's look even says it all.
Sinking ship? Cavs had the best record in the league & the Heat had just won 2 out 4 straight Finals appearances. I didn't know GSW fans were still salty about choking harder than Bron in 2011.
Even then, Steph broke the 3-point record and Klay put up 37 in a QTR during the season; you're telling me the Splash-Bros couldn't find a way to win without Green? What's the excuse for Game 6? Curry & Klay shitting the bed whilst Green did what he could? Did the NBA tell Steph to pull off this sweet pass in Game 7? Klay's look even says it all.
Sinking ship? Cavs had the best record in the league & the Heat had just won 2 out 4 straight Finals appearances. I didn't know GSW fans were still salty about choking harder than Bron in 2011.
LeBron's age will start to catch up to him. It's an inevitability that he will chase more rings, but who can blame him?
Once he is no longer the #1 scoring option, he will go to a team (if he isn't winning the finals with his current team) that can carry him if the future looks bleak. I don't know what the salary cap situation was like on the Heat, but given that the Cavs don't have much to work with at the moment, I doubt he's just going to just sit there and take it, especially if the Celtics start building a stacked team with all the picks and the foundation that they already have.
But hell, that's all we can do at the moment. Speculate that we know exactly what somebody else is thinking and feeling
#224
I haven't been paying attention, but is Lonzo Ball a done deal with the Lakers?
#225
Lakers Rumors: Execs Split on Drafting Lonzo Ball, De'Aaron Fox, Josh Jackson Bleacher Report
As the Los Angeles Lakers weigh their options with the No. 2 pick in the 2017 NBA draft, team executives are reportedly trying to decide among Lonzo Ball, De'Aaron Fox and Josh Jackson.
Per ESPN's Chad Ford, the Lakers are still leaning in Ball's direction but are giving serious consideration to the other two players.
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Ford noted the Lakers "want to control the narrative" that they, not LaVar, are in command of the process. They want teams picking behind them to think Fox and Jackson are in the mix to entice a trade up.
As for what he thinks will happen, Ford gave Ball the best odds to end up with the Lakers at 40 percent, followed by Jackson at 35 percent and Fox at 25 percent.
Per ESPN's Chad Ford, the Lakers are still leaning in Ball's direction but are giving serious consideration to the other two players.
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Ford noted the Lakers "want to control the narrative" that they, not LaVar, are in command of the process. They want teams picking behind them to think Fox and Jackson are in the mix to entice a trade up.
As for what he thinks will happen, Ford gave Ball the best odds to end up with the Lakers at 40 percent, followed by Jackson at 35 percent and Fox at 25 percent.
#226
#228
Nono...the context of superteam was just merely that. A team that was super. I did not weigh in on the parameter on how the assets were acquired. All I was saying to 007 was his original question if there was a team as "great" and stacked as the Warriors. And my comment back was there has been and my immediate example dates back as early as the 80s Pistons.
#229
^Ah ok. I'd have to agree the 60's Celtics and some Lakers teams Wilt and Jerry. Does super team necessarily mean 3, 4, 5? HoFers or just multi All Star appearances? Very loose criteria.
#230
Yeah...but, I guess what spy was saying was that, the Warriors have 4 legit "star" top tier-type players in the Splash Bros., Green, and KD. I had suggested that there were teams like that before and used the Pistons as an example. I very much think Thomas, Dumars, Laimbeer, Rodman, and even Johnson were top-tier-top players. There have been many uber-stacked teams before even if the more "traditional" model is the 1-2 punch (i.e. Jordan and Pippen; Malone and Stockman; and etc.).
#231
The scope of my point was only with regard to what Jordan faced in the Finals. The comparison of Lebron and MJ's Final's play was being made, so I pointed out I don't think Jordan faced the level of competition that the Warriors are bringing this year. That was all.
I acknowledge the existence of past super teams. That why I only hated on the Warriors once and after they swept the Spurs.
I acknowledge the existence of past super teams. That why I only hated on the Warriors once and after they swept the Spurs.
Last edited by oo7spy; 06-09-2017 at 04:53 PM.
#232
The scope of my point was only with regard to what Jordan faced in the Finals. The comparison of Lebron and MJ's Final's play was being made, so I pointed out I don't think Jordan faced the level of competition that the Warriors are bringing this year. That was all.
I acknowledge the existence of past super teams. That why I only hated on the Warriors once and after they swept the Spurs.
I acknowledge the existence of past super teams. That why I only hated on the Warriors once and after they swept the Spurs.
And per my opinion of the contact rules of the NBA back then, I believe Jordan had it significantly tougher. Sure, I'm biased because I'm a huge Bulls fan and worship MJ. But, just saying.
#235
Rekt
Cleveland was unstoppable, couldn't believe what I was seeing.
Even more awful officiating, but it went both ways. No excuse, GSW was outplayed badly from the very start.
IMO Draymond should've been ejected. But I was laughing when he wasn't
Cleveland was unstoppable, couldn't believe what I was seeing.
Even more awful officiating, but it went both ways. No excuse, GSW was outplayed badly from the very start.
IMO Draymond should've been ejected. But I was laughing when he wasn't
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