kurtatx

I agree with the second thing you said. However, I understand there really is no point in being a Memphis Grizzlies fan. Player collusion basically eliminates your team's chances of ever winning a title.

BreezyTL

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I heard that too, not a way to win a championship. Also the half ass attempts to get back on defense. You're in the Finals, hustle your ass back and complain at a timeout or a break. Was a pretty good game overall, but if Kyrie didn't get hot it would have been a huge blowout again!

Yumcha

@ Cavs...

BreezyTL

iTrader: (8)

Very curious to see what happens for next year. LeBron has 2 more years under contract then is a UFA in 2019. Will he leave or will they bring in others to replace the mediocre team they have?

Rick_TL-S

Yeah, the same fans who don't know a single player from the 2007 squad, Cavs' & Warriors'.

Thats the biggest gripe for the fans; guys who have been watching the team suck for years and see these dudes come out of nowhere now stating shit like, "Curry is a Top 5 PG". Bitch please, this dude spent his first 5 years not even Top 5 per season due to injury issues.

Yumcha

Every era has it...

In hockey, you have the Oilers and Islanders of the 80s. In MLB, you have the Yankees who bought their way to the World Series Titles...and now, in basketball, the start of it all with the "Big 3" in Miami.


I certainly don't hate the superteam idea...just look on in envy as the Bulls continue to be passed over and over by the best UFAs while they continue to mire in mediocrity. My bitterness at the "LeHeat" thing was more about how all 3 of those guys played Chicago and all the other teams as fools.

I was actually kinda happy for LeBron and Cleveland when they won last year. And as for Golden State, they were pretty much irrelevant for most of the franchise's time in the NBA...all I can remember pre-Splash Brothers was Chris Mullen.

oo7spy

Big 3 started in Boston IMO.

Doom878

Def NOT Miami. Boston and Houston did it but like Big 3 Old.

oo7spy

Houston?

Costco

Technically Rodman once kicked the Bulls' asses on the Pistons, but then he left after the Bulls got their first threepeat, and later on joined the Bulls. Not on the same caliber of KD of course, but nonetheless paved the way to another threepeat.

Costco

I understand if people have a gripe with KD joining a stacked roster, fresh off a 73 win season.

But don't be a hurr durr Cavs or LeBron fan and complain about a superteam because LeBron has done that twice now.

Curry, Thompson, and Green have been on the Warriors since day 1. LeBron went to free agency and joined up with two different faces of the franchise twice in his career. First with Wade and Bosh, then with Irving and Love.

Yumcha

Yup, per my post to Bond, the Pistons were actually the first "super team" I can remember (too young for the Celtics) that featured Thomas, Dumars, Rodman, Laimbeer, et al....they were freaking good. And kicked your teeth in physically too.

Rick_TL-S

LeBron didn't go running to join the Celtics after they beat him, though.

Like I said, bringing up what LeBron did is just a way for GSW fans to justify KD's bitch move to join a 73-9, 3-1 lead team that should've won easily.

Yumcha

So, LeBron is allegedly gonna take his services to either Lakersland or Clippersland...?

Costco

Won easily? Draymond was suspended thanks to refball. That pretty much sealed the deal for them. They should have suspended him in the WCF (definitely would have sealed the Warriors fate against the Thunder) but the NBA loves to help out LeBron.

The salary cap applies to all teams. Deal with it

I can't even imagine if LeBron joined the Celtics. That would make three different superteams that LeGM manufactured since we know what happens when he senses a sinking ship.

is300eater

Ugh

(personally, I don't think he'll go west, or he shouldn't )

Rick_TL-S

He got suspended Game 5 because he accumulated too many techs; maybe he should've stopped kicking players in the nuts and been more careful, something he admitted to recently.

Even then, Steph broke the 3-point record and Klay put up 37 in a QTR during the season; you're telling me the Splash-Bros couldn't find a way to win without Green? What's the excuse for Game 6? Curry & Klay shitting the bed whilst Green did what he could? Did the NBA tell Steph to pull off this sweet pass in Game 7? Klay's look even says it all.
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Sinking ship? Cavs had the best record in the league & the Heat had just won 2 out 4 straight Finals appearances. I didn't know GSW fans were still salty about choking harder than Bron in 2011.

Doom878

Dream, Barkley, Pippen

3 of those were drafted, Laimbeer acquired before he was an all star. Bad example of a super team in this context.

elessar

I dunno... Lonzo Ball and Paul George will both probably end up with the Lakers. Throw in LeYumcha and it would make an interesting mix.

I'm a Boston fan so it would work for me... that would potentially clear a path to the Finals for the Celtics!

elessar

Man, I forgot that Pippen went to the Rockets for about 5 minutes... But you can make a "superteam" case for the Olajuwon/Barkely/Drexler squad they had before that.

Barkley was cursed, LOL... First he just misses out on a title with the Sixers, joining them, what, a year too late? Then he joins the Rockets right after their 2nd consecutive championship, but gets screwed by Jordan's un-retirement (although I guess the Jazz we kind of a problem too)...

elessar

Also, Boston has had a couple of "Big 3"s: before Garnett, Pierce and Allen there was Bird, McHale and Parrish.

Did their ridiculously dominant 60s squad have a Big 3? Russell, Cousy & Havlicheck, maybe??

Costco

Draymond has a huge impact on defense, more than what the highlight reels or stats tend to show. It doesn't help that there is blatantly biased officiating going on, and was going on.

LeBron's age will start to catch up to him. It's an inevitability that he will chase more rings, but who can blame him?

oo7spy

Something tells me Durant goes off tonight, drops 30+ and escapes with the Finals MVP.

is300eater

I haven't been paying attention, but is Lonzo Ball a done deal with the Lakers?

elessar

Maybe not a done deal, exactly, but still probably the most likely scenario.

Lakers Rumors: Execs Split on Drafting Lonzo Ball, De'Aaron Fox, Josh Jackson Bleacher Report

nist7

Cleveland will come from down 0-3 to win the Finals and set another NBA record.

Remember Warriors blew a 3-1 lead.

Maybe Bron is just playing with them....

nist7

God I hope Lakers doesn't draft Ball. His father's arrogance is disgusting

Yumcha

Nono...the context of superteam was just merely that. A team that was super. I did not weigh in on the parameter on how the assets were acquired. All I was saying to 007 was his original question if there was a team as "great" and stacked as the Warriors. And my comment back was there has been and my immediate example dates back as early as the 80s Pistons.

Doom878

^Ah ok. I'd have to agree the 60's Celtics and some Lakers teams Wilt and Jerry. Does super team necessarily mean 3, 4, 5? HoFers or just multi All Star appearances? Very loose criteria.

Yumcha

Yeah...but, I guess what spy was saying was that, the Warriors have 4 legit "star" top tier-type players in the Splash Bros., Green, and KD. I had suggested that there were teams like that before and used the Pistons as an example. I very much think Thomas, Dumars, Laimbeer, Rodman, and even Johnson were top-tier-top players. There have been many uber-stacked teams before even if the more "traditional" model is the 1-2 punch (i.e. Jordan and Pippen; Malone and Stockman; and etc.).

oo7spy

The scope of my point was only with regard to what Jordan faced in the Finals. The comparison of Lebron and MJ's Final's play was being made, so I pointed out I don't think Jordan faced the level of competition that the Warriors are bringing this year. That was all.

I acknowledge the existence of past super teams. That why I only hated on the Warriors once and after they swept the Spurs.

Yumcha

Valid...but my counterpoint in this discussion is that those very same Pistons I used to illustrate as a superteam was also the one Jordan had to go through.

And per my opinion of the contact rules of the NBA back then, I believe Jordan had it significantly tougher. Sure, I'm biased because I'm a huge Bulls fan and worship MJ. But, just saying.

AZuser

What the hell, Golden State? Cleveland pwning GS in 1st.

nist7

Cleveland in 7.

Costco

Rekt

oo7spy

Always fun watching history be made on the high side. That was nucking futs!

Mizouse

its the finals, so time to chime in on this years thread

KaMLuNg

iTrader: (5)

these three day rest periods are a joke... i was expecting game 5 last night...

Yumcha

Can't...not with the NHL Cup Final yesterday. But, now that the Stanley Cup playoffs are over, the NBA should have games back at normal frequency. I expect the Warriors to wrap this up.

Mizouse

Not looking forward to riding the train after work today

gonna be crowded as fvck since it passes by the Oakland colleseium.