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It's not about money / insurance. He's charged with a fourth degree felony for leaving the scene of an accident that involves serious bodily injury. The hit and run charge alone is 18 months in prison (Section 31-18-15 NMSA 1978). The drug charge is probably 1oz or less first time misdemeanor 15 days, but the possession of drug paraphernalia can be 1 year.
Compound the charges including a possible aggravated DUI, he's looking at +3 years, but I'm sure it'll run concurrent. Prosecution might accept a deal, but the big issue is he seriously hurt someone. If the state follows through, he's doing time. Some people have been referencing Rampage's rampage, which also included hitting a pregnant woman who subsequently had a miscarriage in the weeks following.
But she wasn't seriously hurt, and she had a wellness procedure that greatly increased the risk of miscarriage. So they couldn't tie his hit and run with losing the baby. Rampage plead out as well, but only because he didn't seriously hurt anyone and it was his first offense. Jon Jones has a mixed history including a DWI conviction. He had passengers with him that were injured but wouldn't testify, so it was plead out. His colorful past will bite him in the ass if he gets a good judge.
The whole reason the UFC took away his strap and suspended him as well as Reebok dropping him is because they know he's not walking from this. If he gets deferred sentencing with 3-5 years probation, he'll fuck it up.
They can charge him with whatever they want, its about what they can prove beyong a doubt - im sure he has very good lawyers. How would they charge him with a dui if he left the scene, they cant do a sobriety test the next day (not happening). Its a rental car that pipe couldve been anyones. Lots of stuff to prove we'll see. Big fine/community service/driving classes... No jail though.
Lol... Yea you're right hes going to get a DUI 3 days later? LOL
Depends on the state regulations. Marijuana is a tricky test as there is no real scientific test that shows your high right now. The test measures metabolites and it takes many weeks for the system to clear. If you are a habitual marijuana smoker, you will fail most marijuana DUI tests for several days possibly upwards of 2 weeks after the last time you actually "got high".
When it comes to marijuana in America, it's not what the science is or the truth is, its what the laws say.
The MJ charge isn't even that bad.. but the fact that his pipe had bud in it suggests why he didn't stop to give aid.. because he got high.
Is doesnt matter what it seems like. You have to prove it in court. Thats why you have court to prove if your innocent or guilty. They will have to individually prove every charge is true. All of them. He wont serve any jail time mark my words.
Super excited for this fight, although I think it's going to be one-sided. Also can't wait to see Andrei Arlovski and Travis Browne duke it out. Anyone else watching this weekend? What are your predictions?
UFC strip title, give title fight to DC
Reebok drops sponsorship
Legal expert thinks Jones will actually serve some serious time
Fuck yeah!
I was hoping Rumble would have knocked that fucking turds head into orbit, but this works on many levels.
Also, the pregnant lady that he hit, suffered a broken arm. She was more shocked that he ran away without checking to see if they were okay or apologizing for hitting them. What a fucking coward.
Jon Chicken legs Chicken shit Cocaine Jones..
I fully agree. I never had much hope in Cormier defeating Jones even though on paper he had a decent chance. For some reason I've had the feeling that Rumble was going to knock his head off.
He's shown the world his character. He left a pregnant woman, or let's just say a woman since he probably didn't know she was pregnant after causing a serious crash. He's a coward no matter what he does in the UFC. It might have taken me a few years to learn that fighting is the easy part of being a man. It's the other stuff that really tests you and he failed in a big way and I'm sure this isn't the last of it. It's my honest opinion that you are who you are from a pretty early age and Jones will always be the type to flee the scene. That's not something you gain with maturity. You either have that voice inside that tells you it's wrong, that won't let you run from the people you injured. His instinct to help people should have overrode any fear of the law. That's just who he is, chicken shit.
Hopefully the court can take his last several offenses into consideration when the sentencing takes place.
If the UFC lets this shit head fight again they better lift Paul Dailey's permanent ban. Taking a cheap shot after the fight on a fellow fighter after the fight isn't right but it pales in comparison to Jones. Or Sonnen or one of the Diaz brothers and so on. I think Dana knows better than to let him back in anytime soon.
I fully agree. I never had much hope in Cormier defeating Jones even though on paper he had a decent chance. For some reason I've had the feeling that Rumble was going to knock his head off.
He's shown the world his character. He left a pregnant woman, or let's just say a woman since he probably didn't know she was pregnant after causing a serious crash. He's a coward no matter what he does in the UFC. It might have taken me a few years to learn that fighting is the easy part of being a man. It's the other stuff that really tests you and he failed in a big way and I'm sure this isn't the last of it. It's my honest opinion that you are who you are from a pretty early age and Jones will always be the type to flee the scene. That's not something you gain with maturity. You either have that voice inside that tells you it's wrong, that won't let you run from the people you injured. His instinct to help people should have overrode any fear of the law. That's just who he is, chicken shit.
Hopefully the court can take his last several offenses into consideration when the sentencing takes place.
If the UFC lets this shit head fight again they better lift Paul Dailey's permanent ban. Taking a cheap shot after the fight on a fellow fighter after the fight isn't right but it pales in comparison to Jones. Or Sonnen or one of the Diaz brothers and so on. I think Dana knows better than to let him back in anytime soon.
I fully agree. I never had much hope in Cormier defeating Jones even though on paper he had a decent chance. For some reason I've had the feeling that Rumble was going to knock his head off.
He's shown the world his character. He left a pregnant woman, or let's just say a woman since he probably didn't know she was pregnant after causing a serious crash. He's a coward no matter what he does in the UFC. It might have taken me a few years to learn that fighting is the easy part of being a man. It's the other stuff that really tests you and he failed in a big way and I'm sure this isn't the last of it. It's my honest opinion that you are who you are from a pretty early age and Jones will always be the type to flee the scene. That's not something you gain with maturity. You either have that voice inside that tells you it's wrong, that won't let you run from the people you injured. His instinct to help people should have overrode any fear of the law. That's just who he is, chicken shit.
Hopefully the court can take his last several offenses into consideration when the sentencing takes place.
If the UFC lets this shit head fight again they better lift Paul Dailey's permanent ban. Taking a cheap shot after the fight on a fellow fighter after the fight isn't right but it pales in comparison to Jones. Or Sonnen or one of the Diaz brothers and so on. I think Dana knows better than to let him back in anytime soon.
He does have good hands. He's a great technical fighter. If he wasn't sidelined, he would have been more successful than he was in the octagon. Did you have a point to that post?
Are you fucking kidding me? That was a great fight. He looked great on his feet. You have the most asinine posts in here and have proved little than your kindergarten knowledge of MMA.
What's your fucking point to his post that had nothing to do with lesnar who hasn't fought in years? or are you just looking to troll because you're a Jon Jones dick rider?
I'm a jones dick rider because he isn't going to jail? Brock lesnar was just a big guy he over powered people. His striking is not good and he crumbled anytime he got hit. You're an idiot
I'm one of the people who woul have asterisked cormiers championship. He legitimately lost to the champ. He won because the champ essentially banned himself from competition.
His very short and to the point chat with joe rogan added some legitimacy to his title, he knows there's still one man to beat before he truly considered "undisputed" champ. There was now thanks to my trainers, no thanks to Jesus, no thanks to his mom, just "Jon jones, get your shit together, I'm waiting for you." The only way that could have been better is of he was holding the mic so he could have dropped it before walking off.
I legitimately think rumble would have decapitated Jones. I knew odds were stacked if dc went to the grind. dc talking shit like he's fought big punchers.. lol. He was like fuck this stand up shit.
Uriah hall decision was bullshit. It was fixed, check the odds and stats on that fight. Card didn't disappoint. Most of my guys lost but they'll be back. That hapa arlovski fight was straight ridonk.. Awesome!
I'm still pisses at jones for being an asshat and fucking up the card. I'd much rather have seen rumble vs jones stylistically. DC may be a great MMA artist but he's kinda boring to watch.
I like to think Johnson would knock jones' head off, I think he's got the weapons to do so, I'm just not sure jones would give him the opportunity. I'm also not sure rumble was prepared cardiovascularly to go 5 rounds, if he hadn't knocked jones out by the 3rd I'm not sure he would have had the power left to do it. Jones is a douche but he's shown he's a capable and smart fighter, he wasn't going to let it be a street fight. Either way rumble vs jones is the fight I want to see, not rumble vs dc, not dc vs whoever he fights next.
I don't remember saying that but I don't feel like searching through a bunch of posts to see if you're lying or not. Regardless I'm sure it was taken out of context as per your usual posts.
So instead of attempting to make an argument for your man crush, you try to discredit me based on opinion? "Good hands" is relative. Some fighters make other good fighters look really bad. I've been in the ring with a decent boxer that was nothing but sheer frustration. He could hit me at will and I couldn't touch him the entire time. I'm sure I looked awful but then again I've never claimed to be good. Put me on the street against most self proclaimed "tough guys" and it's a different story. I've been in there with Tito and once with Miller for fun and held my own . And by "held my own" I mean I didn't get knocked down and I was able to make contact with them. Boxers going by boxing rules make me look very bad.
Most would agree Chuck had good hands, at least at one time but there have been a couple opponents that made him look like an amateur (well, almost). There's example after example. I didn't watch the video of Cain vs Lesnar but showing Lesnar against one opponent means nothing.
I'm starting to get the idea you don't know a whole lot about the UFC, MMA, or much of anything to do with the sport. My point being I don't think you're qualified to say who has good hands and who doesn't. Lesnar had a real wrestling background before he started training for MMA style fights but as far as I know he had around a year of striking experience before they threw him to the wolves. He's not my favorite guy on a personal level but show me anyone else who could be competitive as he was with very, very little training. The UFC did not give him any easy fights, he started with the best. I'm just some nobody that showed up at the gym to keep in shape but Frank came in several times and while pretty much everyone there had their way with me, I could still see that Mir was on a different level on the ground and Miller's ground game wasn't exactly bad. I was in shock that Lesnar managed to beat him so badly the second time. So no, I don't think Lesnar has great hands compared to the best the UFC has to offer but I think he has good hands, especially considering how little training he had against guys that had trained their whole lifetime. I don't have to make excuses for him, he did win the title and had a few good fights despite having some things stacked against him. Speaking of relative, do you think you could last a round with him, just boxing? I'm just curious what reality you're in.
You're letting your infatuation with Jones cloud your judgment. Jones is a great fighter and a completely shitty human being. I'm still a huge Tito fan but I can admit he's not UFC material any more and I'm not going to defend him if someone criticizes his fighting.
What's with Bader going to the post conference? UFC pulling a WWE?
Yep.. to get a title shot you have to make an ass out of yourself. Look at Weidman title shot contention.. Jacare deserves the fight but Rockhold is making the noise. It's pathetic.
I legitimately think rumble would have decapitated Jones. I knew odds were stacked if dc went to the grind. dc talking shit like he's fought big punchers.. lol. He was like fuck this stand up shit.
Uriah hall decision was bullshit. It was fixed, check the odds and stats on that fight. Card didn't disappoint. Most of my guys lost but they'll be back. That hapa arlovski fight was straight ridonk.. Awesome!
I still believe the same. I don't know why but I think Rumble would have knocked Jones out too. I believe he said something to the effect that he considered Cormier the tougher opponent before the fight. Regardless of who won, they both seem like they will represent the UFC and MMA well both inside and outside of the ring. Now I can start watching the LHW fights for the fight and not because I don't like Jones.
Unfortunately I didn't get to see the fight, only what I could find on youtube. I was surprised to hear that Uriah Hall lost, I thought it would be a fairly safe fight for him but I still haven't actually seen the fight. I did see Cormier get his brain rattled in the first seconds of the fight. Rumble has to have some of the heaviest hands in the UFC including heavyweights. I'm trying to think of who might hit harder and nothing is coming to mind.
The fight that made me sad was Weidman vs Vitor. I knew Weidman should win but Vitor was looking very good. To me it was personal because it's like the end of an era. Vitor was the last of the older fighters that I grew up watching and that I've met personally. I quit anything to do with training (and porn stars too lol) 7+ years ago but I've always enjoyed watching the legends from my time fight. The new generation is no doubt better as a whole but I don't get as excited to watch a UFC as I used to. There was just something about those guys that came up through Pride and pioneered MMA as we know it today. I'm not even 40 and I sound like a sour old man already lol.
Yep.. to get a title shot you have to make an ass out of yourself. Look at Weidman title shot contention.. Jacare deserves the fight but Rockhold is making the noise. It's pathetic.
Bader would absolutely get destroyed by DC.
That's what I thought. I was going to ask if Bader has somehow remade himself into a much, much better fighter but it sounds like nothing has changed. I was more than a little surprised to see him calling DC out. Maybe he's hurting for money?
I still believe the same. I don't know why but I think Rumble would have knocked Jones out too. I believe he said something to the effect that he considered Cormier the tougher opponent before the fight. Regardless of who won, they both seem like they will represent the UFC and MMA well both inside and outside of the ring. Now I can start watching the LHW fights for the fight and not because I don't like Jones.
Unfortunately I didn't get to see the fight, only what I could find on youtube. I was surprised to hear that Uriah Hall lost, I thought it would be a fairly safe fight for him but I still haven't actually seen the fight. I did see Cormier get his brain rattled in the first seconds of the fight. Rumble has to have some of the heaviest hands in the UFC including heavyweights. I'm trying to think of who might hit harder and nothing is coming to mind.
The fight that made me sad was Weidman vs Vitor. I knew Weidman should win but Vitor was looking very good. To me it was personal because it's like the end of an era. Vitor was the last of the older fighters that I grew up watching and that I've met personally. I quit anything to do with training (and porn stars too lol) 7+ years ago but I've always enjoyed watching the legends from my time fight. The new generation is no doubt better as a whole but I don't get as excited to watch a UFC as I used to. There was just something about those guys that came up through Pride and pioneered MMA as we know it today. I'm not even 40 and I sound like a sour old man already lol.
Uriah Hall was -400. I saw that and knew right away it was going to be a fix if it went to the scorecard.
It was a great card. The Hapa Arlovski fight is my favorite fight this year. I was really hoping Vitor pulled off the upset.. whether he was on TRT or not. He came really close, he really hurt Weidman in that flurry. Should have pulled an Anderson and upkicked him when he was covering up.
Vitor has been on an absolute tear.. He KO'd Hendo, Rockhold, Bisping, almost tore Jon Jones arm off. He even submitted Rumble, which sent Rumble packing. Weidman's ground game is legit. Too bad Vitor couldn't defend the position. I don't think there's anyone to prove himself against. I think he's still got it, but he's fought them all. Win-lose it's been a glorious ride. War Vitor!
I'm not a fan of Weidman. He's proven himself to be a real champ but Ray Longo, Serra and the bunch are all assholes. Plus when Weidman wiped his snot on the flag.. it just got under my skin and it still does every time he drapes the flag over himself after the fight. I love the patriotism, but have some fucking respect you dummy!
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That's what I thought. I was going to ask if Bader has somehow remade himself into a much, much better fighter but it sounds like nothing has changed. I was more than a little surprised to see him calling DC out. Maybe he's hurting for money?
Bader is still one dimensional.. he's good all around, but he's not great anywhere. I think his last two wins against OSP and Davis were BS. He just grinded out a boring win.
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