MLB: Official 2007 Post Season Thread
#202
Originally Posted by Eoanou
They are going to have a hard time beating Caroma, hopefully whoever is pitching for the Yankees can keep it close.
#204
Originally Posted by IlliNorge
Carmona is a young sinkerballer, and adrenaline might leave his pitches up in the zone. That happened to Lilly last night and he get rocked.
We'll see what happens, I hope its a good game.
#207
Originally Posted by IlliNorge
Carmona is a young sinkerballer, and adrenaline might leave his pitches up in the zone. That happened to Lilly last night and he get rocked.
I knew Caroma would do well, him and Petite pitched a gem, a great pitching duel, but yet the Yankees lost. Lucky me my predictions that the Yankees will lose in the first round is coming true, I'm going to be 1-0 in my predictions. I don't hate the Yankees, I just thought their pitching couldn't handle a playoff series.
#210
Originally Posted by Eoanou
Manny is the man, I never understood why he ever wanted to be traded.
Yankees lose two in a row, Sox win two.
#212
Originally Posted by BstonBruin
My favorite player of all time, there is nothing that I don't like about him
Yankees lose two in a row, Sox win two.
Yankees lose two in a row, Sox win two.
He was the best player in baseball when he played for the Indians.
#213
Originally Posted by Eoanou
He was the best player in baseball when he played for the Indians.
Ramirez was more a peer with the second tier of stars like Belle, Walker, Bagwell, Gonzalez, Rodriguez, Sheffield, etc.
#214
Originally Posted by Pull_T
I wouldn't go that far. Bonds and Griffey were clearly the best hitters of the mid to late 90s....along with providing gold glove defense.
Ramirez was more a peer with the second tier of stars like Belle, Walker, Bagwell, Gonzalez, Rodriguez, Sheffield, etc.
Ramirez was more a peer with the second tier of stars like Belle, Walker, Bagwell, Gonzalez, Rodriguez, Sheffield, etc.
Well remember the year he hit .333 and had 165RBI.
#215
Let's compare shall we?
Manny Ramirez
YEAR TEAM G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
1998 Cle 150 571 108 168 35 2 45 145 76 121 5 3 .294 .377 .599 .976
1999 Cle 147 522 131 174 34 3 44 165 96 131 2 4 .333 .442 .663 1.105
2000 Cle 118 439 92 154 34 2 38 122 86 117 1 1 .351 .457 .697 1.154
Barry Bonds
1998 SF 156 552 120 167 44 7 37 122 130 92 28 12 .303 .438 .609 1.047
1999 SF 102 355 91 93 20 2 34 83 73 62 15 2 .262 .389 .617 1.006
2000 SF 143 480 129 147 28 4 49 106 117 77 11 3 .306 .440 .688 1.128
Griffey Jr.
1998 Sea 161 633 120 180 33 3 56 146 76 121 20 5 .284 .365 .611 .976
1999 Sea 160 606 123 173 26 3 48 134 91 108 24 7 .285 .384 .576 .960
2000 Cin 145 520 100 141 22 3 40 118 94 117 6 4 .271 .387 .556 .943
Numbers are pretty close, but I would say Manny might edge them both out, more RBI, better average OBP, better avg OPS and better avg. Slugging between those three years.
Manny Ramirez
YEAR TEAM G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
1998 Cle 150 571 108 168 35 2 45 145 76 121 5 3 .294 .377 .599 .976
1999 Cle 147 522 131 174 34 3 44 165 96 131 2 4 .333 .442 .663 1.105
2000 Cle 118 439 92 154 34 2 38 122 86 117 1 1 .351 .457 .697 1.154
Barry Bonds
1998 SF 156 552 120 167 44 7 37 122 130 92 28 12 .303 .438 .609 1.047
1999 SF 102 355 91 93 20 2 34 83 73 62 15 2 .262 .389 .617 1.006
2000 SF 143 480 129 147 28 4 49 106 117 77 11 3 .306 .440 .688 1.128
Griffey Jr.
1998 Sea 161 633 120 180 33 3 56 146 76 121 20 5 .284 .365 .611 .976
1999 Sea 160 606 123 173 26 3 48 134 91 108 24 7 .285 .384 .576 .960
2000 Cin 145 520 100 141 22 3 40 118 94 117 6 4 .271 .387 .556 .943
Numbers are pretty close, but I would say Manny might edge them both out, more RBI, better average OBP, better avg OPS and better avg. Slugging between those three years.
#218
Originally Posted by Eoanou
Let's compare shall we?
Manny Ramirez
YEAR TEAM G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
1998 Cle 150 571 108 168 35 2 45 145 76 121 5 3 .294 .377 .599 .976
1999 Cle 147 522 131 174 34 3 44 165 96 131 2 4 .333 .442 .663 1.105
2000 Cle 118 439 92 154 34 2 38 122 86 117 1 1 .351 .457 .697 1.154
Barry Bonds
1998 SF 156 552 120 167 44 7 37 122 130 92 28 12 .303 .438 .609 1.047
1999 SF 102 355 91 93 20 2 34 83 73 62 15 2 .262 .389 .617 1.006
2000 SF 143 480 129 147 28 4 49 106 117 77 11 3 .306 .440 .688 1.128
Griffey Jr.
1998 Sea 161 633 120 180 33 3 56 146 76 121 20 5 .284 .365 .611 .976
1999 Sea 160 606 123 173 26 3 48 134 91 108 24 7 .285 .384 .576 .960
2000 Cin 145 520 100 141 22 3 40 118 94 117 6 4 .271 .387 .556 .943
Numbers are pretty close, but I would say Manny might edge them both out, more RBI, better average OBP, better avg OPS and better avg. Slugging between those three years.
Manny Ramirez
YEAR TEAM G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
1998 Cle 150 571 108 168 35 2 45 145 76 121 5 3 .294 .377 .599 .976
1999 Cle 147 522 131 174 34 3 44 165 96 131 2 4 .333 .442 .663 1.105
2000 Cle 118 439 92 154 34 2 38 122 86 117 1 1 .351 .457 .697 1.154
Barry Bonds
1998 SF 156 552 120 167 44 7 37 122 130 92 28 12 .303 .438 .609 1.047
1999 SF 102 355 91 93 20 2 34 83 73 62 15 2 .262 .389 .617 1.006
2000 SF 143 480 129 147 28 4 49 106 117 77 11 3 .306 .440 .688 1.128
Griffey Jr.
1998 Sea 161 633 120 180 33 3 56 146 76 121 20 5 .284 .365 .611 .976
1999 Sea 160 606 123 173 26 3 48 134 91 108 24 7 .285 .384 .576 .960
2000 Cin 145 520 100 141 22 3 40 118 94 117 6 4 .271 .387 .556 .943
Numbers are pretty close, but I would say Manny might edge them both out, more RBI, better average OBP, better avg OPS and better avg. Slugging between those three years.
Of course, you didn't state "From 98-00, Ramirez was one of the top 3 hitters in baseball"
Like I said...he was a superstar (and is) just I do not see him as ever being the best player in the game at any time in his career.
#226
Originally Posted by Yumchah
You bet against your Cubs...?
Wow...I can see how your AZ handle is so appropriate.
Wow...I can see how your AZ handle is so appropriate.
My Cubs?
Im a Sox fan, selling out would be cheering for the Cubs just because they were winning.
#236
As a Sox fan i must sound crazy but a piece of me was hoping the Yankees would win in 5...
It isn't the same going for a World Series without having to go through the Yankees...
regardless, the Boston will be ready for the Cleveland...
We already picked up our bug spray, military grade shit with DET, so their biological bug attacks won't bother us...
It isn't the same going for a World Series without having to go through the Yankees...
regardless, the Boston will be ready for the Cleveland...
We already picked up our bug spray, military grade shit with DET, so their biological bug attacks won't bother us...
#237
Originally Posted by savage
As a Sox fan i must sound crazy but a piece of me was hoping the Yankees would win in 5...
It isn't the same going for a World Series without having to go through the Yankees...[/COLOR]
It isn't the same going for a World Series without having to go through the Yankees...[/COLOR]
#239
...and I was right about pitching Wang on short rest.
Is always, always, always, always better to throw your #4 over someone on short rest. Wedge didn't panic, he played the percentages....now he has a rotation set up for the LCS.
Pitchers simply can't pitch for 6 months, then go short rest and be effective.
Is always, always, always, always better to throw your #4 over someone on short rest. Wedge didn't panic, he played the percentages....now he has a rotation set up for the LCS.
Pitchers simply can't pitch for 6 months, then go short rest and be effective.
#240
Originally Posted by Pull_T
...and I was right about pitching Wang on short rest.
Is always, always, always, always better to throw your #4 over someone on short rest. Wedge didn't panic, he played the percentages....now he has a rotation set up for the LCS.
Pitchers simply can't pitch for 6 months, then go short rest and be effective.
Is always, always, always, always better to throw your #4 over someone on short rest. Wedge didn't panic, he played the percentages....now he has a rotation set up for the LCS.
Pitchers simply can't pitch for 6 months, then go short rest and be effective.