MLB: Alex Rodriguez Used Steroids **Tipped Pitches to Opposing Hitters (page 4)**
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MLB: Alex Rodriguez Used Steroids **Tipped Pitches to Opposing Hitters (page 4)**
is all i have to say. Everyone was so quick to say he wasn't involved in steroids, even on this forum
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I'm not surprised about A-Roids....A lot more players are dirty than we think.
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I'm shocked.
Seriously, though, I think more players were/are roiding up than we think. Most probably thought they had to just to keep up. If guys like Bonds, A-Rod and Clemens are doping, how do regular guys hope to survive in the league?
Seriously, though, I think more players were/are roiding up than we think. Most probably thought they had to just to keep up. If guys like Bonds, A-Rod and Clemens are doping, how do regular guys hope to survive in the league?
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alll player in all leagues juice its known in the government sports fall under entertainment they want they players to look big and beastly look at foot ball the people are beasts compared to average humans
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I'm shocked.
And it doesn't surprise me when he was named by Canseco (even if Canseco is
)...
And it doesn't surprise me when he was named by Canseco (even if Canseco is
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Press release...
Alex Rodriguez tested positive for steroids in his MVP season of 2003 with Texas, according to a report by Sports Illustrated.
The New York Yankees star failed a drug test for two anabolic steroids, four sources told the magazine in a story posted Saturday on its Web site.
His name appears on a list of 104 players who tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs in a 2003 baseball survey, SI said. He reportedly tested positive for Primobolan and testosterone while playing for the Rangers.
Rodriguez declined to discuss the tests when approached by SI on Thursday at a gym in Miami, where he lives in the offseason.
"You'll have to talk to the union," he told a reporter. Calls from SI to union head Donald Fehr were not returned.
Major League Baseball said it was "disturbed" by the report, but did not elaborate because of player confidentiality.
"Because the survey testing that took place in 2003 was intended to be nondisciplinary and anonymous, we cannot make any comment on the accuracy of this report as it pertains to the player named," MLB executive vice president Rob Manfred said.
The players' union refused to directly address the story's accuracy.
"Information and documents relating to the results of the 2003 MLB testing program are both confidential and under seal by court orders," the union said.
"Anyone with knowledge of such documents who discloses their contents may be in violation of those court orders," the union added.
An e-mail from The Associated Press to Rodriguez's agent, Scott Boras, was not immediately returned. The Yankees and Rangers had no comment.
In a December 2007 interview with "60 Minutes," three days after George Mitchell's report on drugs in the sport was released, Rodriguez denied using peformance-enhancing drugs.
"I've never felt overmatched on the baseball field. ... I felt that if I did my, my work as I've done since I was, you know, a rookie back in Seattle, I didn't have a problem competing at any level," he said.
Rodriguez played for the Rangers in 2003, when he won the AL home run title and MVP award. He was traded to the Yankees in 2004. He is drawing a major league-high $27 million salary after signing a record $275 million, 10-year contract with New York in 2007.
The revelations come at a time when baseball's focus on drugs has concerned Barry Bonds and the legal maneuvering leading to the start of his trial March 2. The government is trying to prove the home run king lied when he told a grand jury he never knowingly took performance-enhancing drugs.
Rodriguez until now has had an offseason dominated by talk of disclosures in Joe Torre's recently released book. The former Yankee manager wrote of the pressure A-Rod puts on himself and the third baseman's need to command the stage. Torre said some in the Yankees clubhouse referred to Rodriguez as "A-Fraud," although Torre made light of that during interviews promoting his book, "The Yankee Years."
Baseball's drug policy prohibited the use of steroids without a valid prescription since 1991, but there were no penalties for a positive test in 2003.
As part of an agreement with the players' union, the testing in 2003 was conducted to determine if it was necessary to impose mandatory random drug testing across the major leagues in 2004.
The results of the testing of 1,198 players were meant to be anonymous under the agreement between the commissioner's office and the union. SI reported that Rodriguez's testing information was found after federal agents, with search warrants, seized the 2003 results from Comprehensive Drug Testing, Inc., in Long Beach, Calif.
That was one of two labs used by baseball in connection with the testing. The seizure in April 2004 was part of the government's investigation into 10 baseball players linked to the BALCO scandal, the magazine reported. Rodriguez has not been connected to BALCO.
Primobolan, also known as methenolone, is an injected or orally administered drug. It improves strength and maintains lean muscle with minimal bulk development and few side effects. Bonds tested positive three times for methenolone, according to court documents unsealed by a federal judge Wednesday.
Primobolan is not an approved prescription drug in the United States. Testosterone can be taken legally with a prescription.
The New York Yankees star failed a drug test for two anabolic steroids, four sources told the magazine in a story posted Saturday on its Web site.
His name appears on a list of 104 players who tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs in a 2003 baseball survey, SI said. He reportedly tested positive for Primobolan and testosterone while playing for the Rangers.
Rodriguez declined to discuss the tests when approached by SI on Thursday at a gym in Miami, where he lives in the offseason.
"You'll have to talk to the union," he told a reporter. Calls from SI to union head Donald Fehr were not returned.
Major League Baseball said it was "disturbed" by the report, but did not elaborate because of player confidentiality.
"Because the survey testing that took place in 2003 was intended to be nondisciplinary and anonymous, we cannot make any comment on the accuracy of this report as it pertains to the player named," MLB executive vice president Rob Manfred said.
The players' union refused to directly address the story's accuracy.
"Information and documents relating to the results of the 2003 MLB testing program are both confidential and under seal by court orders," the union said.
"Anyone with knowledge of such documents who discloses their contents may be in violation of those court orders," the union added.
An e-mail from The Associated Press to Rodriguez's agent, Scott Boras, was not immediately returned. The Yankees and Rangers had no comment.
In a December 2007 interview with "60 Minutes," three days after George Mitchell's report on drugs in the sport was released, Rodriguez denied using peformance-enhancing drugs.
"I've never felt overmatched on the baseball field. ... I felt that if I did my, my work as I've done since I was, you know, a rookie back in Seattle, I didn't have a problem competing at any level," he said.
Rodriguez played for the Rangers in 2003, when he won the AL home run title and MVP award. He was traded to the Yankees in 2004. He is drawing a major league-high $27 million salary after signing a record $275 million, 10-year contract with New York in 2007.
The revelations come at a time when baseball's focus on drugs has concerned Barry Bonds and the legal maneuvering leading to the start of his trial March 2. The government is trying to prove the home run king lied when he told a grand jury he never knowingly took performance-enhancing drugs.
Rodriguez until now has had an offseason dominated by talk of disclosures in Joe Torre's recently released book. The former Yankee manager wrote of the pressure A-Rod puts on himself and the third baseman's need to command the stage. Torre said some in the Yankees clubhouse referred to Rodriguez as "A-Fraud," although Torre made light of that during interviews promoting his book, "The Yankee Years."
Baseball's drug policy prohibited the use of steroids without a valid prescription since 1991, but there were no penalties for a positive test in 2003.
As part of an agreement with the players' union, the testing in 2003 was conducted to determine if it was necessary to impose mandatory random drug testing across the major leagues in 2004.
The results of the testing of 1,198 players were meant to be anonymous under the agreement between the commissioner's office and the union. SI reported that Rodriguez's testing information was found after federal agents, with search warrants, seized the 2003 results from Comprehensive Drug Testing, Inc., in Long Beach, Calif.
That was one of two labs used by baseball in connection with the testing. The seizure in April 2004 was part of the government's investigation into 10 baseball players linked to the BALCO scandal, the magazine reported. Rodriguez has not been connected to BALCO.
Primobolan, also known as methenolone, is an injected or orally administered drug. It improves strength and maintains lean muscle with minimal bulk development and few side effects. Bonds tested positive three times for methenolone, according to court documents unsealed by a federal judge Wednesday.
Primobolan is not an approved prescription drug in the United States. Testosterone can be taken legally with a prescription.
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No wonder his Yankee teammates called him A-Fraud.
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Everyone argued with me when I said I think that Bonds should go unpunished.
Listen, I'd be willing to bet damn near every player in the league was juicing in the 90's. Including the pitchers that were pitching to bad man Barry Bonds. They were all doing it. That evens the playing field, can't really punish individuals.
Listen, I'd be willing to bet damn near every player in the league was juicing in the 90's. Including the pitchers that were pitching to bad man Barry Bonds. They were all doing it. That evens the playing field, can't really punish individuals.
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meh. not surprised.
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Everyone argued with me when I said I think that Bonds should go unpunished.
Listen, I'd be willing to bet damn near every player in the league was juicing in the 90's. Including the pitchers that were pitching to bad man Barry Bonds. They were all doing it. That evens the playing field, can't really punish individuals.
Listen, I'd be willing to bet damn near every player in the league was juicing in the 90's. Including the pitchers that were pitching to bad man Barry Bonds. They were all doing it. That evens the playing field, can't really punish individuals.
It's sad how the $ and greed has turned a great sport into such
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I don't even think juicing is a big deal anymore.
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It's not a big deal to find out that "X" did steroids 10 years ago, but it is now. The new look is the slimmed down shrunken look and 40 HR's is a big deal again. So the new program is working.
At least we know why Madonna dumped him now. He must have shrunken down to a B-Rod down there.
At least we know why Madonna dumped him now. He must have shrunken down to a B-Rod down there.
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As a Yankee fan I'm going to have to take this crap now.
And yet another year team distraction. I think he's a curse to the Yankees. ![2 Cents](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/2cents.gif)
The gov needs to stay out of this. There was no reason for them to be involved before. It's a shame that they care to waste tax dollars on this crap then find people work.
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The gov needs to stay out of this. There was no reason for them to be involved before. It's a shame that they care to waste tax dollars on this crap then find people work.
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^ Sorry to pour salt on your wounds fuzzy...but, A-Fraud's got another, what, 9 years to go with that contract he signed with your team...?
If he decides to go the Clemroids and Flaxseed route of fibbing instead of coming clean, hoo boy...distraction-city, here it comes.
If he decides to go the Clemroids and Flaxseed route of fibbing instead of coming clean, hoo boy...distraction-city, here it comes.
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And sorry to really piss on A-Fraud...but, let's all refresh our memories of EXACTLY what he said when the Mitchell Report came out:
During a "60 Minutes" interview with Katie Couric in which he was asked if he had ever taken steroids.
"No," Rodriguez said.
Couric asked if he had ever been "tempted" to use steroids.
"No," Rodriguez answered.
But he didn't stop there.
"I've never felt overmatched on the baseball field," Rodriguez said. "I've always been in a very strong, dominant position. I felt if I did my work, as I've done since I was a rookie back in Seattle, I didn't have a problem competing on any level."
There is no hole in the ground big enough for him to hide in now. What a disgrace.
During a "60 Minutes" interview with Katie Couric in which he was asked if he had ever taken steroids.
"No," Rodriguez said.
Couric asked if he had ever been "tempted" to use steroids.
"No," Rodriguez answered.
But he didn't stop there.
"I've never felt overmatched on the baseball field," Rodriguez said. "I've always been in a very strong, dominant position. I felt if I did my work, as I've done since I was a rookie back in Seattle, I didn't have a problem competing on any level."
There is no hole in the ground big enough for him to hide in now. What a disgrace.
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For Yanks fans this is nothing new. Clemroids, Sheffield, Giambi..A-Roid. They should commemorate the new ballpark by signing McGwire and Bonds and batting them 1-2-3 behind Rodriguez on opening day.
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this is what you have to remember. It wasn't cheating at the time. Steroids were not against the rules of baseball.
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Yumchah, you're replacing morals with rules. Think about football, how many immoral things do you think are done on the field that are not against the rules?
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Steroids Were Banned In 1991
The Houston Chronicle's Richard Justice always has something interesting to say in his blog. Yesterday he cleared up a common misconception about steroids being banned only in recent years:
"Commissioner Fay Vincent sent the clubs a memo in 1991 reminding them that players were forbidden from taking any illegal substance. He specifically mention steroids in the memo and encouraged the clubs to take a get-tough policy on players thought to be using steroids.
What could a team have done if it suspected a player of using steroids? Probably nothing.
Vincent simply wanted to be on the record as letting the clubs know that steroid use was against the rules and that they shouldn't be afraid to confront a player.
There was no testing for steroids until 2003 (after being part of the 2002 labor agreement).
The notion that Bonds wasn't breaking any rules is ridiculous. He was. He knew he was."
The Houston Chronicle's Richard Justice always has something interesting to say in his blog. Yesterday he cleared up a common misconception about steroids being banned only in recent years:
"Commissioner Fay Vincent sent the clubs a memo in 1991 reminding them that players were forbidden from taking any illegal substance. He specifically mention steroids in the memo and encouraged the clubs to take a get-tough policy on players thought to be using steroids.
What could a team have done if it suspected a player of using steroids? Probably nothing.
Vincent simply wanted to be on the record as letting the clubs know that steroid use was against the rules and that they shouldn't be afraid to confront a player.
There was no testing for steroids until 2003 (after being part of the 2002 labor agreement).
The notion that Bonds wasn't breaking any rules is ridiculous. He was. He knew he was."
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Add Frank Thomas to your list of good ones that have not been caught.
That being said, at the rate all the stars are getting caught in MLB, I would not be shocked anymore if the Big Hurt was doping either.
That being said, at the rate all the stars are getting caught in MLB, I would not be shocked anymore if the Big Hurt was doping either.
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It's a business, and in the early 90's it was failing. Owners, in the best interest of their businesses knew they needed a way to jump start things. They did that buy turning there heads to steroids because they knew that 60+ homerun seasons and batting title chases in the high .300's would bring crowds.
It's no different than anything else.
It's no different than anything else.
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It's a business, and in the early 90's it was failing. Owners, in the best interest of their businesses knew they needed a way to jump start things. They did that buy turning there heads to steroids because they knew that 60+ homerun seasons and batting title chases in the high .300's would bring crowds.
It's no different than anything else.
It's no different than anything else.
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But I see your point when Julio Chavez takes down $10 million after losing and Andruw Jones pockets $20 million for driving in 14 runs last year. Both guys are rich because of their agents/promoters.