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08-03-2005, 04:12 PM
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08-03-2005, 05:13 PM
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Oilers trade Mike York for Mike Peca. It looks like there could be many exciting games in the Northwest division for this upcoming season....well, at least on paper anyways.
08-03-2005, 05:24 PM
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Forsberg a Flyer??!
see Eklund
see Eklund
08-03-2005, 06:08 PM
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The sizzle in the Steak
The player most likely to go is veteran Jeremy Roenick, with NHL sources suggesting he is about to be moved to the L.A. Kings.
08-03-2005, 06:08 PM
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The sizzle in the Steak
Bruins may yet land Modano.........
08-03-2005, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
08-03-2005, 06:23 PM
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And here are the details of Peca going to the Oil: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=132334
08-03-2005, 07:31 PM
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The sizzle in the Steak
<---Glad to see Forsberg go to the Eastern Conference.
Rumor Roenick may be envolved in a 3-way trade that may have him end up in Phoenix.
Rumor Roenick may be envolved in a 3-way trade that may have him end up in Phoenix.
08-03-2005, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by HQuakers
Like I said before...
Lets Go Flyers! Clap Clap Clapclapclap
Lets Go Flyers! Clap Clap Clapclapclap
Lets Go Flyers! Clap Clap Clapclapclap
Lets Go Flyers! Clap Clap Clapclapclap
08-03-2005, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TSXforme
Normally I would agree with you, but it appears Bobby Clarke is taking a big gamble signing 3 overly large, but very slow defensemen. If the rules are strictly enforced, then I would see Esche facing many odd man breakaways. Conversely, if the NHL is like the old NHL (clutch & grab), then Philly would have a very sound defense core.
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... Don't tell the Flyers about the rule changes..!!
08-03-2005, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by trancemission
17 mil just wasnt enough... 
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=132327
08-03-2005, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MSZ
thescore.ca is reporting the Roenick trade to LA is done.
08-03-2005, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
How come I can't find any info on that site about it ? 
EDIT: Its on their TV channel as well(the ticker), but again nothing is official yet.
08-04-2005, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by dom
I hear John Ferguson is vacationing in Borneo.
Leafs beaten again
Sly Clarke outfoxes napping Ferguson
It's almost as if the Philadelphia Flyers were ready for this.
Well, of course they were.
That the Flyers, known primarily as a big spender in the old NHL order, have proven to be so flexible and aggressive in the new capped NHL is a rather large compliment to general manager Bob Clarke and his organization.
Moreover, the Flyers' preparedness to compete forcefully under the altered economic landscape stands in rather sharp contrast to another team that also was known for its economic muscle in pre-lockout times.
That, of course, would be the Maple Leafs.
While the Flyers have stunned the industry by making a flurry of exciting personnel moves in the past few days, including yesterday's acquisition of the brilliant Peter Forsberg, the Leafs and GM John Ferguson have appeared as the proverbial deer in the headlights, looking around as though they'd like to call a timeout.
To compare the Flyers and Leafs, needless to say, is not an exercise that flatters Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment.
It's bad enough that Philly was the team that eliminated Pat Quinn's crew the last two playoff seasons, with goalies Roman Cechmanek and Robert Esche leading the way by outplaying in back-to-back years the more exalted and highly paid Ed Belfour.
But to see Clarke et al so badly outpointing the Leafs in the new environment created by the recently ratified collective bargaining agreement has to be maddening to the Leaf Nation.
Indeed, as the past three days have gone by without the Leafs making even a ripple in the ultra-competitive free agent pool, it's as though you can feel the collective temper of the city starting to rise.
The Leafs, without question, have been caught utterly flatfooted by the frenzy of activity over the past two weeks.
They were seemingly floored by the entire Owen Nolan mess, and then, after making a decent move by picking up Jeff O'Neill from the Carolina Hurricanes, found that addition overshadowed by the loss of veterans Gary Roberts and Joe Nieuwendyk to Florida.
With Ferguson more inclined to stonewall and prevaricate rather than articulate his game plan to the public, the perception is that the Leafs hamstrung themselves with contractual commitments going into the salary cap era and now don't have the ingenuity to figure their way out of the mess in which they find themselves.
Without the ability to simply use money to mask their organizational shortcomings, the Leafs seem to have no answers.
The Flyers, by contrast, were always able to do more than just spend.
The Flyers have continued to draft very effectively throughout the 1990s and into the new millennium.
Players like Simon Gagne and Joni Pitkanen were drafted and developed into big leaguers.
Two weeks ago, while the Leafs were figuring out the Nolan mess, Clarke immediately bought out John LeClair and Tony Amonte to clear more than $11 million in cap space. Simultaneously, he got young guns Jeff Carter and Mike Richards under contract, in both cases without surrendering major bonus packages.
Indeed, those two prospects alone highlight how much more efficient the Flyers have been at competing and building at the same time compared to Toronto.
Carter was the 11th pick of the '03 draft, Richards the 24th, both taken after the Flyers had eliminated the Leafs in the first round of the playoffs that spring.
In that same draft, the Leafs didn't own a first-round pick.
With room to manoeuvre and quality kids to plug into his lineup in the wake of the new CBA, both the result of careful and thoughtful planning, Clarke got to work. He signed three big defenders in Derian Hatcher, Mike Rathje and Chris Therien, moving defender Danny Markov to Nashville to allow for those purchases.
After telling the hockey world "we're done," Clarke then moved with lightning speed under the cover of his own verbal camouflage and pitched for Forsberg. While rumours had the splendid Swede going to New York, San Jose or even back to Colorado, the Flyers struck.
"They got on the radar late, to be honest," said Forsberg's agent, Don Baizley. "But Bob Clarke got aggressive about it, and got really serious about it (yesterday) morning."
The deal put Philly over the salary cap, and Clarke is expected to fix that problem by moving Jeremy Roenick to Los Angeles.
Now, the Flyers have gone 30 years without a Stanley Cup, so they don't get organization-of-the-year just yet.
But while the Leafs have watched in stunned silence as the bodies have been flying, the Flyers have creatively rebuilt their roster in a determined bid to end that long championship drought.
Clarke's team will go into the season as the favourite to win the Eastern Conference.
The Leafs, meanwhile, are not enjoying life on this new level playing field.
08-04-2005, 09:22 AM
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Not a big-time transaction, but Martin Lapointe goes Windy City-bound...
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=132334
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=132334
08-04-2005, 09:28 AM
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Scott Niedermayer is now a duck
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/artic...04_081135_6140
NOw they have Ozolinch and Niedermayer. Too very gifted offensive defensemen.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/artic...04_081135_6140
NOw they have Ozolinch and Niedermayer. Too very gifted offensive defensemen.
