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Old 05-10-2005, 04:16 PM
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Report: Gretzky set to coach Coyotes

For those who still care about hockey...from tsn.ca:

5/10/2005 9:59:10 AM

Wayne Gretzky is set to officially take over the coaching reigns of the Phoenix Coyotes, according to published reports.

The East Valley Tribune of Arizona quotes well placed NHL sources who say Gretzky and the Coyotes have all but agreed in principle to a new, three year deal with a formal announcement expected by weeks end.

A Coyotes spokesperson tells TSN that no deal or announcement is imminent but that discussions are ongoing and a deal is likely in the coming months.

Speculation has surrounded Gretzky's future in Phoenix since the team failed to officially hire a new head coach following last season. However, the collective bargaining lockout meant there was no need to name a head coach so long as there was no hockey being played.

In April, Gretzky - a part owner of the team since 2001 - said he would be reluctant to step behind the bench if the NHL agreed to use replacement players if no new collective agreement could be worked out with the union.

The newspaper says Rick Bowness, who was the interim coach at the end of last season, will return as an assistant with Gretzky and that Rich Tocchet will likely be hired as a second assistant once a new labour agreement is finalized.
Old 05-10-2005, 04:19 PM
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I do. I started playing it again because I missed going to Wings games.
Old 05-10-2005, 04:24 PM
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I don't think Gretzky will make a good coach.
....but at the same time do you really think the Coyotes can do any worse with Gretzky as coach?



....and btw as of now there is no NHL.....
Old 05-10-2005, 04:26 PM
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I wish I could get hired to an imaginary job too.
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Hockey still exists?
Old 05-10-2005, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Cousin Itt
I wish I could get hired to an imaginary job too.
Old 05-10-2005, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by te3point5
Hockey still exists?
Not in Boston I guess.

The number of empty seats in Bruin's home games in the past 5 years really amazed me.
Old 05-10-2005, 04:35 PM
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lol...i don't miss hockey at all i thought i would....
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The longer we go without hockey, the less I care. And I'm in the northeast ... I can only imagine how little the southern US will care about hockey if/when its back.
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Originally Posted by MSZ
Not in Boston I guess.

The number of empty seats in Bruin's home games in the past 5 years really amazed me.
I played for 11 years, and I don't care about it at all anymore. Ever since the expansion and the ghey rule changes, pro hockey sucks. I have no time for fucking Phoenix having a hockey team, I have even less time for the "opening up" of the game. They Europeanized the sport, now it's all about offense and no hitting....


Lame.
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Sorry for the hijack.

I dont think we can write-off Gretzky as a coach just yet. He knows the game and he will be very well respected by the players.
Old 05-10-2005, 04:39 PM
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As Ken Dryden said earlier...Hockey may be just a habit for a lot of people.
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Hockey for me was Terry O'Reilly, Rick Middleton, Ray Bourque, Stan Jonathan, Steve Kasper, Paul Coffey, Cam Neely.

Now it's a bunch of fucking pussy Slavs. Fuck em.
Old 05-10-2005, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Grandpa70
They Europeanized the sport, now it's all about offense and no hitting....
Perhaps you havent watched hockey in a while , but the problem is the opposite. There is not enough offense and too much clutching, grabbing and defensive minded play.

The New Jersey devils ruined hockey when they showed how successful the neutral zone trap can be.
Old 05-10-2005, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Grandpa70
Hockey for me was Terry O'Reilly, Rick Middleton, Ray Bourque, Stan Jonathan, Steve Kasper, Paul Coffey, Cam Neely.
Old 05-10-2005, 04:42 PM
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I wish #99 all the best but I have this sinking feeling in my gut that he's never going to be terribly successful in the league off the ice.
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Originally Posted by fdl
Perhaps you havent watched hockey in a while , but the problem is the opposite. There is not enough offense and too much clutching, grabbing and defensive minded play.

The New Jersey devils ruined hockey when they showed how successful the neutral zone trap can be.
Exactly. Remember the 95 final? That was brutal to watch.
Old 05-10-2005, 04:42 PM
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Old 05-10-2005, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by fdl
Perhaps you havent watched hockey in a while , but the problem is the opposite. There is not enough offense and too much clutching, grabbing and defensive minded play.

The New Jersey devils ruined hockey when they showed how successful the neutral zone trap can be.
Old 05-10-2005, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by fdl
Perhaps you havent watched hockey in a while , but the problem is the opposite. There is not enough offense and too much clutching, grabbing and defensive minded play.

The New Jersey devils ruined hockey when they showed how successful the neutral zone trap can be.

I disagree, I think the game has been totally opened up, and it's only a matter of time before 2 line offsides is abolished. There's no HITTING anymore. Grabbing is pussy, run that fucker through the boards.

Remember when you could tie up the puck? That was the way it should be!
Old 05-10-2005, 04:44 PM
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But regardless, GO PATS!!!!

Football > *
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Originally Posted by Grandpa70
Hockey for me was Terry O'Reilly, Rick Middleton, Ray Bourque, Stan Jonathan, Steve Kasper, Paul Coffey, Cam Neely.

Now it's a bunch of fucking pussy Slavs. Fuck em.
And Miller and Moog for me.
Old 05-10-2005, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Cousin Itt
And Miller and Moog for me.
I see Miller all the time, he owns a cool bar on the Cape called The Courtyard.
Old 05-10-2005, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Grandpa70
I see Miller all the time, he owns a cool bar on the Cape called The Courtyard.
I was just talking to somebody else who was hanging out with him... oh - my boss. I guess Miller also frequents Lake Winn...
Old 05-10-2005, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Capt. Murdock
And Miller and Moog for me.
Andy Moog
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Originally Posted by Capt. Murdock
I was just talking to somebody else who was hanging out with him... oh - my boss. I guess Miller also frequents Lake Winn...
...and the RamRod...the guy can throw FUCKS!!!
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Old 05-27-2005, 05:31 PM
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From Eklund's Hockey Rumor page:

"There is little information coming out right now regarding exactly how much of this situation has been resolved. But what is not happening says more than what is is right now. Neither side right now, even when working off a linkage deal with little time to waste, is pushing for round the clock meetings. The stakes are unbelievably high that this get resolved by June 15th. There are those who fear the PA is stalling, but the NHL is not internally acting frustrated....like they have in the past when they calimed the PA was stalling. It appears very much like both sides are over the huge differences, and although the PA may not be thrilled with the deal, they are trying to just make sure the revenues get counted in way that guarantees the most possible revenues"

In HOCKEY news...(hooray)
The Draft.
Rumor has it that a hotel has been booked in New York for the weekend of June 26th to hold the draft in New York City. Word is that the expected first-rounders will be flown in and of course Mr. Crosby will be in the big apple. Talking to many journalists in the states, the feeling is that the NHL almost should rig the draft to make Crosby a Ranger... "If they don't do it they are more stupid than we all thought, "said a respected hockey writer, "The kid is perfect for New York, and the NHL needs him there. We need a Jordan in hockey in a major hockey city." I have talked to half a dozen who feel the same exact way. I'm sure all you in Canada will have an opinion on this. I'm staying out of it.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
From Eklund's Hockey Rumor page:
Oh nononono...Crosby cannot become a Ranger. He needs to be a Hawk!
Old 05-27-2005, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Oh nononono...Crosby cannot become a Ranger. He needs to be a Hawk!
I'm not worried....He will be a King.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
I'm not worried....He will be a King.
King...? No way, Crosby needs to be in an Original 6 team like da Hawks! Besides, aside from you, who really cares about them Kings anyhow?
Old 05-27-2005, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
King...? No way, Crosby needs to be in an Original 6 team like da Hawks! Besides, aside from you, who really cares about them Kings anyhow?
Blasphemy!!!
We King fans are a loyal few!!


.....and we had Gretzky and you didn't.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Blasphemy!!!
We King fans are a loyal few!!


.....and we had Gretzky and you didn't.
Merf...Gretz was over-rated. Sure, he was the greatest scorer in the League. But, in his "glory" years with the Oilers, it was Messier who really carried it IMO. Besides, Gretz's Cups after leaving Oilers: Nada.

And besides, the Hawks had Esposito...! And and Mikita! So, there!
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Merf...Gretz was over-rated. Sure, he was the greatest scorer in the League. But, in his "glory" years with the Oilers, it was Messier who really carried it IMO. Besides, Gretz's Cups after leaving Oilers: Nada.

And besides, the Hawks had Esposito...! And and Mikita! So, there!
Gretzky got the King curse.....there is only one player in the league that does better in a King uniform than anywhere else...Luc Robitaille. He was pathetic on every other team he played for except the Kings.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Gretzky got the King curse.....there is only one player in the league that does better in a King uniform than anywhere else...Luc Robitaille. He was pathetic on every other team he played for except the Kings.
Hey, that's true...Personally, I think Robitaille was just able to better fit in with the Kings scheme than other teams. I bet you that if his coach in his secord tour with LA was anyone else other than Andy Murray, he wouldn't score much either...
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Hey, that's true...Personally, I think Robitaille was just able to better fit in with the Kings scheme than other teams. I bet you that if his coach in his secord tour with LA was anyone else other than Andy Murray, he wouldn't score much either...
agree. In his prime he was awesome. He'll make a quick trip to the Hall of Fame.
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Since this thread is revived...I will add one more news:

Reported by Rogers Sportsnet:

ESPN dumps NHL

League revenues take another hit. How will this affect the CBA negotiations?

Sportsnet.ca -- ESPN has declined its option to retain National Hockey League broadcasting rights next season for $60-million US, Sportsnet has learned.

While some consider this a huge blow to the league and its exposure south of the border, there is a sense ESPN 2 may attempt to use this opportunity to negotiate a much cheaper rights fee.

Regardless, this decision will clearly have an impact on NHL revenues and may factor in to the current CBA negotiations as the pie continues to shrink.

Meanwhile, Bain Financial remains intent on buying the NHL. A memo was circulated around the league Friday announcing the group has tabled an offer of $4.3-billion for all 30 NHL teams. The offer would split the teams into three categories based on the estimated worth of each franchise.
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Interesting on the ESPN drop. I'm sure Espn2 will pick up the NHL. Most of the franchises are covered on Fox in their local markets anyway.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Interesting on the ESPN drop. I'm sure Espn2 will pick up the NHL. Most of the franchises are covered on Fox in their local markets anyway.
Thank gawd we have CBC up here for hockey stuff...
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Thank gawd we have CBC up here for hockey stuff...
no CBC here


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