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Has Babs signed in Toronto yet?
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Congrats to the Bolts on coming back and winning the series when the chips were down.
Going to be interesting to see them up against the Habs...
Going to be interesting to see them up against the Habs...
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Now? Is Babs touring the ACC yet?
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@JSportsnet: Babcock on future:"Not talking about that now.We'll have a meeting and final press conference, I'll be happy to talk about that crap then."
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I don't even care if Babs comes to the Leaves. I just want to stick it to Fibo.
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Babs? Signed with the Leaves yet?
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Trying to be as annoying as Yumchah, let me know how I'm doing.
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Babcock Watch: Toronto price, Chicago in mix?
“He’s a really good coach. I’m sure a lot of teams want him.” – Jonathan Ericsson, Detroit Red Wings
And so it begins for real: Mike Babcock Watch.
With the Detroit Red Wings eliminated from the Stanley Cup Playoffs Wednesday night, soon-to-be-free-agent head coach Mike Babcock — the only coach with a membership to the Triple Gold Club (Olympic gold, Stanley Cup, world championships) — was in no mood to discuss the giant question mark surrounding his future, stating he’ll address it on the Red Wings’ locker cleanout day.
“I’ll be happy to talk about any of that crap then,” Babcock said following his team’s 2-0 loss in Game 7 to Tampa Bay Wednesday. “I’m not talking about that now.”
But others are.
What Babcock Did Say
Despite declining to get into that “crap,” Babcock’s commentary on the state of the Red Wings roster must not have instilled faith among Detroit fans hoping their coach will re-sign.
“Our team’s not as good as it was,” Babcock said. “No one even picks us to win in the playoffs.
“We are what we are,” he went on. “[The Lightning] have a young team. They were bad here for long enough that they were able to rebuild and get good young players, and young players at key positions.
“Three of our best players are 34 [Niklas Kronwall], 35 [Henrik Zetterberg] and 37 [Pavel Datsyuk]. So any way you look at it, we’re a team that’s changed a ton of players. We’re a team that’s added a lot of youth to our lineup, and right now on the outside they don’t pick us as a Stanley Cup contender.”
The coach saw positives in the strength of the developing players in AHL at Grand Rapids, but hinted that he wanted to coach all-stars at important positions.
“Who’s going to replace Pav? I don’t think [Datsyuk] is going anywhere right away, but that’s what you’ve got to do. You’ve got to have big-time players up the middle and on the back to be successful. So those are questions that our organization works towards. We’ve been drafting good, we’ve been developing good, but we’ve been winning too much [to land top draft picks]. That’s the facts.”
“He’s a really good coach. I’m sure a lot of teams want him.” – Jonathan Ericsson, Detroit Red Wings
And so it begins for real: Mike Babcock Watch.
With the Detroit Red Wings eliminated from the Stanley Cup Playoffs Wednesday night, soon-to-be-free-agent head coach Mike Babcock — the only coach with a membership to the Triple Gold Club (Olympic gold, Stanley Cup, world championships) — was in no mood to discuss the giant question mark surrounding his future, stating he’ll address it on the Red Wings’ locker cleanout day.
“I’ll be happy to talk about any of that crap then,” Babcock said following his team’s 2-0 loss in Game 7 to Tampa Bay Wednesday. “I’m not talking about that now.”
But others are.
What Babcock Did Say
Despite declining to get into that “crap,” Babcock’s commentary on the state of the Red Wings roster must not have instilled faith among Detroit fans hoping their coach will re-sign.
“Our team’s not as good as it was,” Babcock said. “No one even picks us to win in the playoffs.
“We are what we are,” he went on. “[The Lightning] have a young team. They were bad here for long enough that they were able to rebuild and get good young players, and young players at key positions.
“Three of our best players are 34 [Niklas Kronwall], 35 [Henrik Zetterberg] and 37 [Pavel Datsyuk]. So any way you look at it, we’re a team that’s changed a ton of players. We’re a team that’s added a lot of youth to our lineup, and right now on the outside they don’t pick us as a Stanley Cup contender.”
The coach saw positives in the strength of the developing players in AHL at Grand Rapids, but hinted that he wanted to coach all-stars at important positions.
“Who’s going to replace Pav? I don’t think [Datsyuk] is going anywhere right away, but that’s what you’ve got to do. You’ve got to have big-time players up the middle and on the back to be successful. So those are questions that our organization works towards. We’ve been drafting good, we’ve been developing good, but we’ve been winning too much [to land top draft picks]. That’s the facts.”
The Rumours and Reports
Thursday morning, Sportsnet 590 The Fan host Dean Blundell reported from “a reliable source” that Babcock is seeking a contract in the neighbourhood of $40 million over the six years to become head coach and obtain a front office position if he is to join the Toronto Maple Leafs.
It would be a situation similar to the one Patrick Roy holds in Colorado. Leafs president Brendan Shanahan was asked about that type of setup after he fired Dave Nonis. Shanahan’s response? “We will have an open mind in order to get the best people here.”
Asked on Blundell’s show Thursday morning for teams that would have a legitimate shot at landing Babcock, Sportsnet insider Doug MacLean named three: Philadelphia, Detroit and Chicago. Yes, Chicago.
MacLean is doubtful Babcock wants to take on a rebuilding project like those in Buffalo or Toronto. He figures the coach is looking for teams with “real players” and wants to win another Stanley Cup soon.
The fact that current Blackhawks coach Joel Quenneville may not be long for Chicago, especially if they lose to Minnesota in their upcoming series, added MacLean, is a sentiment that has flown under the radar.
Citing a Philadelphia Flyers source, NJ.com reported last week that the Pittsburgh Penguins have the best shot of signing Babcock should he leave Detroit — “with Penguins co-owner Mario Lemieux said to be willing to offer whatever it takes money-wise as well as a GM title to go along with head coach,” wrote Randy Miller.
Pittsburgh executive David Moorehouse, however, spoke publicly in support of both his GM, Jim Rutherford, and coach, Mike Johnston, saying neither would lose their job after the Penguins playoff elimination.
Minutes after Philadelphia fired head coach Craig Berube, Babcock was reported to be on the team’s short list of targeted replacements.
The Edmonton Journal ran an article this week speculating that the addition of Connor McDavid could lure Babcock. Throw in new GM Peter Chiarelli and CEO Bob Nicholson – two Hockey Canada men who won gold with Babcock – and the pot sweetens.
“Combine all those factors, and the Oilers should be a much more appealing destination for coaching candidates around the league… The promising group of young players is still there, and will soon boast the best prospect the league has seen since at least 2005. There’s a new arena being built, and an owner in Daryl Katz who whatever his other faults has shown no compunctions about spending money on his hockey team,” wrote Jonathan Willis. “It just might be enough to attract Babcock, should he become available.”
Thursday morning, Sportsnet 590 The Fan host Dean Blundell reported from “a reliable source” that Babcock is seeking a contract in the neighbourhood of $40 million over the six years to become head coach and obtain a front office position if he is to join the Toronto Maple Leafs.
It would be a situation similar to the one Patrick Roy holds in Colorado. Leafs president Brendan Shanahan was asked about that type of setup after he fired Dave Nonis. Shanahan’s response? “We will have an open mind in order to get the best people here.”
Asked on Blundell’s show Thursday morning for teams that would have a legitimate shot at landing Babcock, Sportsnet insider Doug MacLean named three: Philadelphia, Detroit and Chicago. Yes, Chicago.
MacLean is doubtful Babcock wants to take on a rebuilding project like those in Buffalo or Toronto. He figures the coach is looking for teams with “real players” and wants to win another Stanley Cup soon.
The fact that current Blackhawks coach Joel Quenneville may not be long for Chicago, especially if they lose to Minnesota in their upcoming series, added MacLean, is a sentiment that has flown under the radar.
Citing a Philadelphia Flyers source, NJ.com reported last week that the Pittsburgh Penguins have the best shot of signing Babcock should he leave Detroit — “with Penguins co-owner Mario Lemieux said to be willing to offer whatever it takes money-wise as well as a GM title to go along with head coach,” wrote Randy Miller.
Pittsburgh executive David Moorehouse, however, spoke publicly in support of both his GM, Jim Rutherford, and coach, Mike Johnston, saying neither would lose their job after the Penguins playoff elimination.
Minutes after Philadelphia fired head coach Craig Berube, Babcock was reported to be on the team’s short list of targeted replacements.
The Edmonton Journal ran an article this week speculating that the addition of Connor McDavid could lure Babcock. Throw in new GM Peter Chiarelli and CEO Bob Nicholson – two Hockey Canada men who won gold with Babcock – and the pot sweetens.
“Combine all those factors, and the Oilers should be a much more appealing destination for coaching candidates around the league… The promising group of young players is still there, and will soon boast the best prospect the league has seen since at least 2005. There’s a new arena being built, and an owner in Daryl Katz who whatever his other faults has shown no compunctions about spending money on his hockey team,” wrote Jonathan Willis. “It just might be enough to attract Babcock, should he become available.”
The watch continues. He's not coming to Toronto, but he's not staying in Detroit either.
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I still don't get the Pens move to bring in Rutherford. He ran Carolina into the ground. What signs were there that said he's a top notch GM? So Babs in Pitt makes a lot of sense. Would Chicago seriously get rid of Quenville? Really? I hope so, so the Leaves can scoop him up.
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Off season is so much more interesting than the game.
And what about Boston? Who they interested in?
And what about Boston? Who they interested in?
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Did you realize Zetterberg is only 34 and Datsuck is only 36? Those ages he listed, that's how old they'll be when he coaches them next season. So Kessel, Phaneuf and Orr for Zetterberg, Datsun and Babs?
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Orr will not be back with the Leaves next year. They called him up the last game of the season as a show of respect and to allow him to be eligible for NHL medical insurance when his contract expired.
And I seriously doubt either One Sac or Enough will be back with the Leaves next year. Pretty sure they'll be getting rid of them at all costs......
And I seriously doubt either One Sac or Enough will be back with the Leaves next year. Pretty sure they'll be getting rid of them at all costs......
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Orr will not be back with the Leaves next year. They called him up the last game of the season as a show of respect and to allow him to be eligible for NHL medical insurance when his contract expired.
And I seriously doubt either One Sac or Enough will be back with the Leaves next year. Pretty sure they'll be getting rid of them at all costs......
And I seriously doubt either One Sac or Enough will be back with the Leaves next year. Pretty sure they'll be getting rid of them at all costs......
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I'd make that trade if I were Ken Holland.
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God damn NFL draft tweets are interfering with my Babcock update tweets.
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Citing a Philadelphia Flyers source, NJ.com reported last week that the Pittsburgh Penguins have the best shot of signing Babcock should he leave Detroit — “with Penguins co-owner Mario Lemieux said to be willing to offer whatever it takes money-wise as well as a GM title to go along with head coach,” wrote Randy Miller.
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Cottage in the Muskoka's > Crosby & Malkin
And I thought Malkin was injured in the playoffs? How is he now playing for Russia at the World's?
And I thought Malkin was injured in the playoffs? How is he now playing for Russia at the World's?
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Hrm...not sure about Babs in Chicago. And why would the Hawks dump Coach Q...? I know he's had his disagreements with upper management on the roster (then again what coach doesn't)...but, given his track record, I would find it hard to see them letting him go.
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Anyhow, Round 2 picks...
Habs vs. Bolts: Tampa in 6
Rangers vs. Capitals: NY in 6
Ducks vs. Flames: Anaheim in 5
Blackhawks vs. Wild: Chicago in 7
Habs vs. Bolts: Tampa in 6
Rangers vs. Capitals: NY in 6
Ducks vs. Flames: Anaheim in 5
Blackhawks vs. Wild: Chicago in 7
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Obviously...
He had a "sprained ankle" and said he would only play "some" of the games. With him, who the hell knows anymore
He had a "sprained ankle" and said he would only play "some" of the games. With him, who the hell knows anymore
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Habs vs. Bolts: Cary Price in 7
Rangers vs. Capitals: NY in 6
Ducks vs. Flames: Anaheim in 6
Blackhawks vs. Wild: Chicago in 7
Rangers vs. Capitals: NY in 6
Ducks vs. Flames: Anaheim in 6
Blackhawks vs. Wild: Chicago in 7
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Rangers vs Caps: Caps in 7
Ducks vs Flames: Flames in 6
Chicago vs 2 Finns: 2 Finns in 4
Habs vs Bolts: Bolts in 3
Ducks vs Flames: Flames in 6
Chicago vs 2 Finns: 2 Finns in 4
Habs vs Bolts: Bolts in 3
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There are no easy outs...but, of all the match-ups, the Ducks have on paper, the easiest.
Calgary is on an amazing run but I think their magic ends against a real team like Anaheim. I just can't see their Cinderella season continuing. The other series will be darn entertaining with generally equally matched clubs. Chicago will have their hands full against the Wild.
Calgary is on an amazing run but I think their magic ends against a real team like Anaheim. I just can't see their Cinderella season continuing. The other series will be darn entertaining with generally equally matched clubs. Chicago will have their hands full against the Wild.
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My picks are for entertainment only and are not serious
Bolts
Rags
Wild
Flames
Bolts
Rags
Wild
Flames
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@ Twitter...
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Kings in 11.
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So has Babs signed in TO yet? Fibs?
LFG RANGERS!!!!!!!!!!!
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obviously
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