Boxing: News and Discussion Thread
11-19-2006, 09:02 AM
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wow, 3 rounds. glad i didn't pay for it. just went over to my cousin's place and watched. morales didn't look right for the fight. then again, i think he just can't handle Pacquio like he did during the first fight.
barera might be next? this is gonna be interesting
barera might be next? this is gonna be interesting
11-19-2006, 02:40 PM
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wow, 3 rounds. glad i didn't pay for it. just went over to my cousin's place and watched. morales didn't look right for the fight. then again, i think he just can't handle Pacquio like he did during the first fight.
barera might be next? this is gonna be interesting
barera might be next? this is gonna be interesting
watch the video.
02-28-2008, 12:34 PM
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Holyfield/Tyson Contemplating a Rematch?!
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...kaE&refer=home
Holyfield, Tyson Are Discussing Boxing Rematch, Guardian Says
By Dan Baynes
Feb. 28 (Bloomberg) -- Evander Holyfield said he and Mike Tyson are discussing the possibility of fighting each other for a third time, the Guardian newspaper reported, citing an interview with the four-time heavyweight boxing champion.
Holyfield, 45, said Tyson approached him via an intermediary to discuss a rematch, the Guardian reported. Their second fight in 1997 ended in controversy when Tyson was disqualified for twice biting Holyfield, on one occasion tearing off a chunk of his ear.
``There has been some talk between us,'' the Guardian cited Holyfield as saying. ``Mike had Jeff Fenech, who's been training him, call me a few months ago. Jeff says Mike wants to fight me again, but he needs to know if I would agree to it. I said, `It all depends on what they gonna give us, because I'm gonna catch a lot of flak if I say I'm fighting Mike Tyson again.'''
Holyfield knocked out Tyson when they first fought in 1996 and has a professional boxing record of 42-9-2. Tyson became the youngest heavyweight champion in 1986 when he beat Trevor Berbick at age 20. Now 41, Tyson last fought in June of 2005, when he quit during the seventh round of a bout against Kevin McBride to leave his record at 50-6.
By Dan Baynes
Feb. 28 (Bloomberg) -- Evander Holyfield said he and Mike Tyson are discussing the possibility of fighting each other for a third time, the Guardian newspaper reported, citing an interview with the four-time heavyweight boxing champion.
Holyfield, 45, said Tyson approached him via an intermediary to discuss a rematch, the Guardian reported. Their second fight in 1997 ended in controversy when Tyson was disqualified for twice biting Holyfield, on one occasion tearing off a chunk of his ear.
``There has been some talk between us,'' the Guardian cited Holyfield as saying. ``Mike had Jeff Fenech, who's been training him, call me a few months ago. Jeff says Mike wants to fight me again, but he needs to know if I would agree to it. I said, `It all depends on what they gonna give us, because I'm gonna catch a lot of flak if I say I'm fighting Mike Tyson again.'''
Holyfield knocked out Tyson when they first fought in 1996 and has a professional boxing record of 42-9-2. Tyson became the youngest heavyweight champion in 1986 when he beat Trevor Berbick at age 20. Now 41, Tyson last fought in June of 2005, when he quit during the seventh round of a bout against Kevin McBride to leave his record at 50-6.
02-28-2008, 01:51 PM
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Sounds like they both need the money.
Please make it stop...
Please make it stop...
02-28-2008, 01:54 PM
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02-29-2008, 12:22 PM
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Holyfield would destroy tyson now. I've seen a few of Holyfields recent fights in 2007, and he made it to the top to fight Sultan Ibragomov, one of the best heavy weights out there, and he held his own for a 40 somthing year old. Tyson does need the money tho and you know it would sell well.
03-06-2008, 12:08 PM
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has Tyson been fighting at all lately?
06-30-2008, 10:37 AM
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Manny can't be beat in his weight class and the fights he lost were when he was obviously off and shouldn't have fought. He has no competition. Paying $50 or more to watch him fight is a waste of money because it's obvious who will win.
07-15-2008, 01:31 PM
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Canseco knocked for a loop in boxing debut
How many times will former athletes get into a boxing ring before they realize the sport is NOT easy? Not every big guy can be a boxer. The 6-foot-4, 248-lb. Jose Canseco, a former baseball slugger who has been at the center of the steroids controversy, found out quickly that you don't mess with someone who has legitimately worked on his fight game.
Former Philadelphia Eagle Vai Sikahema, 45, definitely has skills and showed them while pummeling Canseco in 97 seconds.
Sikahema, a Golden Gloves champ before his football career with more than 80 amateur fights, was giving away seven inches and 43 pounds. The size disadvantage had zero effect on what looked and sounded like a very angry Sikahema:
"He's a very impressive-looking guy. But the guy is a walking corpse, because he's rotted inside out. He's a pathetic figure."
Not only did Canseco (pictured with ex-wife Jessica) insult boxers with this stunt, he actually had the gall before the fight to mention a mixed martial arts career. Canseco, 44, claims that he is a black belt in Kung Fu, Taekwando and Muay Thai:
"I wanted to get involved with MMA (mixed martial arts) and this is first step to it. Let's see what happens, how I do, how the fans like it. I'll have to see. If I go anything further than this I'll have to train a lot more, really take this serious. I really didn't take this serious at all. Hopefully we can have some fun."
Sikahema clearly wasn't on hand to have "fun" and Canseco learned that he'd better get serious if he ever tries it again. He may also want to stay away from Philly opponents:
"He came out here in first-class, (and is) flying home coach. That's how we roll in Philly," Sikahema said.
Canseco told Channel 10 NBC in Philly that he'd like to fight Sikahema again. If Sikahema won't do it, there's a line five miles long willing to challenge the former MLB slugger the next time around, according to Bernard Fernandez of the Philadelphia Daily News:
(Fight promoter Damon) Feldman said he has received nearly 2,000 e-mails from people who'd like a shot at Canseco, including, he claimed, third-party representatives professing to represent former champions Mike Rossman, Ray Mercer and Bobby Czyz. Canseco wisely has said he'd prefer not to mix it up with real pro fighters, at least not initially.
Canseco went through this public humiliation for just $35,000. Better yet, Canseco may have fought for free. He owes his former lawyer Robert Saunooke $342,000 in overdue legal fees. Saunooke, who said he would double Sikahema's winnings, actually played football at BYU in 1988 shortly after Sikahema ('80-'85).
Sikahema will donate $5,000 of his $25,000 purse to the widow of a Philadelphia police sergeant who was killed in the line of duty earlier this year.
http://sports.yahoo.com/box/blog/box...?urn=box,93737
Former Philadelphia Eagle Vai Sikahema, 45, definitely has skills and showed them while pummeling Canseco in 97 seconds.
Sikahema, a Golden Gloves champ before his football career with more than 80 amateur fights, was giving away seven inches and 43 pounds. The size disadvantage had zero effect on what looked and sounded like a very angry Sikahema:
"He's a very impressive-looking guy. But the guy is a walking corpse, because he's rotted inside out. He's a pathetic figure."
Not only did Canseco (pictured with ex-wife Jessica) insult boxers with this stunt, he actually had the gall before the fight to mention a mixed martial arts career. Canseco, 44, claims that he is a black belt in Kung Fu, Taekwando and Muay Thai:
"I wanted to get involved with MMA (mixed martial arts) and this is first step to it. Let's see what happens, how I do, how the fans like it. I'll have to see. If I go anything further than this I'll have to train a lot more, really take this serious. I really didn't take this serious at all. Hopefully we can have some fun."
Sikahema clearly wasn't on hand to have "fun" and Canseco learned that he'd better get serious if he ever tries it again. He may also want to stay away from Philly opponents:
"He came out here in first-class, (and is) flying home coach. That's how we roll in Philly," Sikahema said.
Canseco told Channel 10 NBC in Philly that he'd like to fight Sikahema again. If Sikahema won't do it, there's a line five miles long willing to challenge the former MLB slugger the next time around, according to Bernard Fernandez of the Philadelphia Daily News:
(Fight promoter Damon) Feldman said he has received nearly 2,000 e-mails from people who'd like a shot at Canseco, including, he claimed, third-party representatives professing to represent former champions Mike Rossman, Ray Mercer and Bobby Czyz. Canseco wisely has said he'd prefer not to mix it up with real pro fighters, at least not initially.
Canseco went through this public humiliation for just $35,000. Better yet, Canseco may have fought for free. He owes his former lawyer Robert Saunooke $342,000 in overdue legal fees. Saunooke, who said he would double Sikahema's winnings, actually played football at BYU in 1988 shortly after Sikahema ('80-'85).
Sikahema will donate $5,000 of his $25,000 purse to the widow of a Philadelphia police sergeant who was killed in the line of duty earlier this year.
http://sports.yahoo.com/box/blog/box...?urn=box,93737
07-15-2008, 01:34 PM
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Cansecowned. 
07-15-2008, 02:07 PM
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chips and smokes, lets go
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08-27-2008, 07:10 PM
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Boxing fans..are you ready for the Pacman against the Goldenboy?
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=3555960
This is going to be one of the biggest bout in boxing in a long time!
This is going to be one of the biggest bout in boxing in a long time!
08-28-2008, 01:46 PM
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09-02-2008, 01:26 PM
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http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=3555960
This is going to be one of the biggest bout in boxing in a long time!
This is going to be one of the biggest bout in boxing in a long time!
09-05-2008, 11:51 PM
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lmao.. Golden boy is a pussy.
Pac will lose however... adding all that extra mass will make pac slower... and de le hoya losing mass will make him even faster.
Pac will lose however... adding all that extra mass will make pac slower... and de le hoya losing mass will make him even faster.
09-07-2008, 07:53 PM
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This fighht is strictly a money maker, if it happens to be competitive, thats a bonus. We are talking about a 40 lb difference naturally, but Oscar is losing as much weight as possible, and Pacman is gaining. All in the name of $$$$.
I think a better fight would be Cotto vs Oscar, or at least pavlick vs OScar.
I think a better fight would be Cotto vs Oscar, or at least pavlick vs OScar.
11-09-2008, 10:48 PM
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COME AT ME BRO!
BOXING: Roy Jones Jr. :vs: Joe Calzaghe
Here is a break down round for round.. Calzaghe wins with unanimous decision
Roy Jones Jr. vs. Joe Calzaghe:
Jones is on his way out of the locker room. The crowd is giving him a loud ovation. Jones is now in the ring.
Calzaghe is on his way out of the locker room. The crowd is more muted but isn't booing him. Calzaghe is now in the ring.
Next up is the national anthem of Wales. And now "The Star-Spangled Banner."
Michael Buffer says the magic words: "Let's get ready to rumble!"
During the introductions, the Calzaghe contingent is a little louder. Quite a few fans made it across the pond.
Round 1: This fight is underway. Calzaghe comes out quickly and gets Jones against the ropes but misses with a left. Calzaghe is the aggressor early, while Jones is staying calm and hoping Calzaghe makes a mistake. Nice jab and move from Jones. Nice combination for Calzaghe inside against the ropes. Calzaghe is going to the body, Jones is blocking most of it with his arms. A left-right for Jones. Down goes Calzaghe! Stunning! A quick flurry inside and Calzaghe hits the canvas! But he gets back up and fights Jones off. And Calzaghe lands a big left. He survives the round, but it goes to Jones, 10-8.
Round 2: Jones is working his way to the inside. Calzaghe is trying to be more aggressive, while Jones is picking his shots. Jones lands one to the body. Jones with a hard body shot. Calzaghe lands a lot of punches to the inside, and Jones shakes it off as if to say it didn't hurt. Calzaghe stalked Jones, but Jones landed a right just as Calzaghe moved inRound 3: Jones appears to have a small cut on his forehead. Shouldn't affect him much. Calzaghe gets a couple of good body shots against the ropes. When Calzaghe gets Jones against the ropes, he lands punches to the body, but overall Jones is doing more, especially in the middle of the ring. Calzaghe is landing a lot of punches but they don't have a lot of power on them. A nice right to the ribs from Calzaghe. Calzaghe looks like he's getting more comfortable and fighting his fight. Jones lands a couple of uppercuts. Calzaghe did quite a bit of showboating in the last 10 seconds of the round, and I give the third round to Calzaghe, 10-9.
Round 4: A couple of good right hands to the head for Calzaghe. Calzaghe swings with a wild left and misses. Calzaghe with a combination in the corner. It's a less active fourth round, as both fighters look like they're trying to wait for the right moment. Calzaghe has Jones cornered with 30 seconds left in the round, and that's when Calzaghe is at his best. Calzaghe is doing everything he wants to do, Jones lands another hard right, Calzaghe showboats again, and in a weird end to the round, i give it to Calzaghe, 10-9.
Round 5: Calzaghe backs Jones right up into the corner where they ended the fourth round. Calzaghe has a clear game plan, and that's to get Jones against the ropes and land combinations. For the last three rounds, it's been working. Calzaghe backs Jones up with body shots, and although he hasn't landed any hard shots he's doing a pretty good job of staying more active, which probably impresses the judges. Jones has landed a couple of hard punches, but Calzaghe is so much more active that I think he has to get the round. Jones has some swelling on his left eye. I give the round to Calzaghe, 10-9.
Round 6: Calzaghe starts the round by backing Jones into the ropes yet again. Jones appeared to be complaining that Calzaghe hit him in the back of the head, but I didn't see it and neither did the ref. Calzaghe's fans are doing a Welsh chant of some kind. Calzaghe basically has Jones where he wants him. Although Jones is landing a few punches here and there, it appears that Calzaghe's shots to the body have taken their toll on Jones. Calzaghe is jabbing effectively whereas Jones is basically not jabbing at all. A big uppercut from Jones! That was one of Jones' best punches of the night, but I still give the sixth to Calzaghe, 10-9.
Round 7: This fight is halfway over and is still anyone's fight, but Calzaghe looks a lot more comfortable than Jones does. HBO's Harold Lederman and I have agreed on all six rounds so far. Jones came to the inside and landed one but it didn't affect Calzaghe. Jones lands a stiff left hand. Jones wants to land an uppercut, but Calzaghe comes in with a flurry. When Calzaghe is energized, he looks like a much better boxer than Jones. Jones is bleeding. Jones is badly hurt. Calzaghe is taking it to him. Calzaghe taunts Jones in the corner, sticking his chin out and just begging Jones to come at him. Calzaghe is starting to take control and wins the round. Calzaghe, 10-9.
Round 8: The cut above Jones' left eye is a bad one. Jones landed one to Calzaghe's gut, but Calzaghe looks fine. Jones has a whole lot of blood on his left eye. He is trying to move inside and get something going, perhaps concerned that he can't last four more round with that cut on his eye. Jones has never had a cut nearly this bad in his career. Calzaghe is doing a lot of dancing, but he thinks Jones isn't going to hurt him. Calzaghe is landing combinations, Jones is hoping to get a one-punch knockout. The round goes to Calzaghe, 10-9.
Round 9: The doctor is looking at the cut on Jones' eye. He says Jones can go on. Calzaghe is picking Jones apart. We may be nearing the end for Roy Jones Jr. According to Compubox, no one has ever landed as many punches against Jones as Calzaghe has landed tonight. Basically, after about the first five minutes of fighting, Calzaghe has totally controlled this fight. Calzaghe has Jones against the ropes and is landing more punches. Calzaghe looks totally fresh and relaxed, and Jones looks like he's in pain. Calzaghe is dominating the fight, and the round. Calzaghe, 10-9.
Round 10: Calzaghe comes on strong to start the 10th, working Jones' body. Now he goes back upstairs, and he's working that eye again. I don't know if Jones can see out of his left eye. Calzaghe is really punishing Jones here; I'm not sure if Jones can last the next two and a half rounds. Calzaghe is just landing everything he wants to land. He doesn't have a lot of power on his punches, but he's landing so many of them that the cumulative effect is devastating. Calzaghe, 10-9.
Round 11: Calzaghe lands a couple of jabs, and then he stands right in front of him and taunts him, begging him to come to the inside. Calzaghe isn't playing it as safe as most boxers would with a big lead, but he's dominating. Jones is covering up that left eye, which makes it almost impossible for him to do anything offensive. The two fighters appear to be talking to each other in the ring, but Calzaghe is talking with his fists in a way that Jones cannot tonight. The 11th goes to Calzaghe, 10-9.
Round 12: The final round is underway and the crowd is saluting. Jones is stalking Calzaghe and would love to throw one punch and land Calzaghe flat on his back, but I don't know if he has that much power left in him. The 12th is halfway over and Jones hasn't landed anything with much power. The crowd is booing a little bit because Jones hasn't yet uncorked that one power punch that could stop the fight. Calzaghe continues to dance in front of Jones, and he's overdoing it a little bit in my book. The 12th round has been less eventful than most of the previous 11. I give it to Calzaghe, 10-9. I'll tell you what the judges say as soon as it's announced. Jones is doing more in the middle of the ring, and I give the second to Jones, 10-9.
Roy Jones Jr. vs. Joe Calzaghe:
Jones is on his way out of the locker room. The crowd is giving him a loud ovation. Jones is now in the ring.
Calzaghe is on his way out of the locker room. The crowd is more muted but isn't booing him. Calzaghe is now in the ring.
Next up is the national anthem of Wales. And now "The Star-Spangled Banner."
Michael Buffer says the magic words: "Let's get ready to rumble!"
During the introductions, the Calzaghe contingent is a little louder. Quite a few fans made it across the pond.
Round 1: This fight is underway. Calzaghe comes out quickly and gets Jones against the ropes but misses with a left. Calzaghe is the aggressor early, while Jones is staying calm and hoping Calzaghe makes a mistake. Nice jab and move from Jones. Nice combination for Calzaghe inside against the ropes. Calzaghe is going to the body, Jones is blocking most of it with his arms. A left-right for Jones. Down goes Calzaghe! Stunning! A quick flurry inside and Calzaghe hits the canvas! But he gets back up and fights Jones off. And Calzaghe lands a big left. He survives the round, but it goes to Jones, 10-8.
Round 2: Jones is working his way to the inside. Calzaghe is trying to be more aggressive, while Jones is picking his shots. Jones lands one to the body. Jones with a hard body shot. Calzaghe lands a lot of punches to the inside, and Jones shakes it off as if to say it didn't hurt. Calzaghe stalked Jones, but Jones landed a right just as Calzaghe moved inRound 3: Jones appears to have a small cut on his forehead. Shouldn't affect him much. Calzaghe gets a couple of good body shots against the ropes. When Calzaghe gets Jones against the ropes, he lands punches to the body, but overall Jones is doing more, especially in the middle of the ring. Calzaghe is landing a lot of punches but they don't have a lot of power on them. A nice right to the ribs from Calzaghe. Calzaghe looks like he's getting more comfortable and fighting his fight. Jones lands a couple of uppercuts. Calzaghe did quite a bit of showboating in the last 10 seconds of the round, and I give the third round to Calzaghe, 10-9.
Round 4: A couple of good right hands to the head for Calzaghe. Calzaghe swings with a wild left and misses. Calzaghe with a combination in the corner. It's a less active fourth round, as both fighters look like they're trying to wait for the right moment. Calzaghe has Jones cornered with 30 seconds left in the round, and that's when Calzaghe is at his best. Calzaghe is doing everything he wants to do, Jones lands another hard right, Calzaghe showboats again, and in a weird end to the round, i give it to Calzaghe, 10-9.
Round 5: Calzaghe backs Jones right up into the corner where they ended the fourth round. Calzaghe has a clear game plan, and that's to get Jones against the ropes and land combinations. For the last three rounds, it's been working. Calzaghe backs Jones up with body shots, and although he hasn't landed any hard shots he's doing a pretty good job of staying more active, which probably impresses the judges. Jones has landed a couple of hard punches, but Calzaghe is so much more active that I think he has to get the round. Jones has some swelling on his left eye. I give the round to Calzaghe, 10-9.
Round 6: Calzaghe starts the round by backing Jones into the ropes yet again. Jones appeared to be complaining that Calzaghe hit him in the back of the head, but I didn't see it and neither did the ref. Calzaghe's fans are doing a Welsh chant of some kind. Calzaghe basically has Jones where he wants him. Although Jones is landing a few punches here and there, it appears that Calzaghe's shots to the body have taken their toll on Jones. Calzaghe is jabbing effectively whereas Jones is basically not jabbing at all. A big uppercut from Jones! That was one of Jones' best punches of the night, but I still give the sixth to Calzaghe, 10-9.
Round 7: This fight is halfway over and is still anyone's fight, but Calzaghe looks a lot more comfortable than Jones does. HBO's Harold Lederman and I have agreed on all six rounds so far. Jones came to the inside and landed one but it didn't affect Calzaghe. Jones lands a stiff left hand. Jones wants to land an uppercut, but Calzaghe comes in with a flurry. When Calzaghe is energized, he looks like a much better boxer than Jones. Jones is bleeding. Jones is badly hurt. Calzaghe is taking it to him. Calzaghe taunts Jones in the corner, sticking his chin out and just begging Jones to come at him. Calzaghe is starting to take control and wins the round. Calzaghe, 10-9.
Round 8: The cut above Jones' left eye is a bad one. Jones landed one to Calzaghe's gut, but Calzaghe looks fine. Jones has a whole lot of blood on his left eye. He is trying to move inside and get something going, perhaps concerned that he can't last four more round with that cut on his eye. Jones has never had a cut nearly this bad in his career. Calzaghe is doing a lot of dancing, but he thinks Jones isn't going to hurt him. Calzaghe is landing combinations, Jones is hoping to get a one-punch knockout. The round goes to Calzaghe, 10-9.
Round 9: The doctor is looking at the cut on Jones' eye. He says Jones can go on. Calzaghe is picking Jones apart. We may be nearing the end for Roy Jones Jr. According to Compubox, no one has ever landed as many punches against Jones as Calzaghe has landed tonight. Basically, after about the first five minutes of fighting, Calzaghe has totally controlled this fight. Calzaghe has Jones against the ropes and is landing more punches. Calzaghe looks totally fresh and relaxed, and Jones looks like he's in pain. Calzaghe is dominating the fight, and the round. Calzaghe, 10-9.
Round 10: Calzaghe comes on strong to start the 10th, working Jones' body. Now he goes back upstairs, and he's working that eye again. I don't know if Jones can see out of his left eye. Calzaghe is really punishing Jones here; I'm not sure if Jones can last the next two and a half rounds. Calzaghe is just landing everything he wants to land. He doesn't have a lot of power on his punches, but he's landing so many of them that the cumulative effect is devastating. Calzaghe, 10-9.
Round 11: Calzaghe lands a couple of jabs, and then he stands right in front of him and taunts him, begging him to come to the inside. Calzaghe isn't playing it as safe as most boxers would with a big lead, but he's dominating. Jones is covering up that left eye, which makes it almost impossible for him to do anything offensive. The two fighters appear to be talking to each other in the ring, but Calzaghe is talking with his fists in a way that Jones cannot tonight. The 11th goes to Calzaghe, 10-9.
Round 12: The final round is underway and the crowd is saluting. Jones is stalking Calzaghe and would love to throw one punch and land Calzaghe flat on his back, but I don't know if he has that much power left in him. The 12th is halfway over and Jones hasn't landed anything with much power. The crowd is booing a little bit because Jones hasn't yet uncorked that one power punch that could stop the fight. Calzaghe continues to dance in front of Jones, and he's overdoing it a little bit in my book. The 12th round has been less eventful than most of the previous 11. I give it to Calzaghe, 10-9. I'll tell you what the judges say as soon as it's announced. Jones is doing more in the middle of the ring, and I give the second to Jones, 10-9.
11-10-2008, 01:57 PM
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Jones got brutalized in that fight as expected. Calzaghe is great but I can't give him any credit for beating a shot Jones, who has been done for years.
11-12-2008, 02:16 AM
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eh, Jones had nothing to lose, but I still don't think he can beat Hopkins. it would make for one hell of a boring fight. Calzage has superhuman endurance tho, he didn't let up for even one round, insane, yet still boring. I prefer the middle weights over the light heavys.