2008-09 MLB Hot Stove Thread
#201
Race Director
Mets close to Lowe
Boras is such an Ass.
Lowe reportedly gets three-year offer from Mets
ESPN.com news services
The New York Mets addressed their bullpen this offseason. Now they're turning to their starting rotation.
The New York Times reported on Tuesday that the team has offered free-agent pitcher Derek Lowe a three-year contract for about $36 million.
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Agent Scott Boras would not confirm that the Mets' offer.
"Obviously, we've taken offers from a number of teams," he said, according to the newspaper.
Boras has reportedly been seeking a five-year contract for Lowe at a per season rate considerably higher than the Mets' offer of $12 million. But New York did seemingly get a bargain with closer Francisco Rodriguez.
Coming off a season with a record-setting 62 saves, he signed with the Mets for three years and $37 million. The Mets also traded for Mariners reliever J.J. Putz.
Lowe was 14-11 with a 3.24 ERA for the Dodgers last season, his fourth with the club. He came up with the Mariners but was traded midway through his rookie season to the Red Sox. He spent over seven years there as a starter and reliever, saving 42 games in 2000.
Lowe, John Smoltz and Dennis Eckersley are the only pitchers to win 20 or more games in one season and save 40 or more in another.
A two-time All-Star, Lowe is 126-107 with a 3.75 ERA and 85 saves in his career.
ESPN.com news services
The New York Mets addressed their bullpen this offseason. Now they're turning to their starting rotation.
The New York Times reported on Tuesday that the team has offered free-agent pitcher Derek Lowe a three-year contract for about $36 million.
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Agent Scott Boras would not confirm that the Mets' offer.
"Obviously, we've taken offers from a number of teams," he said, according to the newspaper.
Boras has reportedly been seeking a five-year contract for Lowe at a per season rate considerably higher than the Mets' offer of $12 million. But New York did seemingly get a bargain with closer Francisco Rodriguez.
Coming off a season with a record-setting 62 saves, he signed with the Mets for three years and $37 million. The Mets also traded for Mariners reliever J.J. Putz.
Lowe was 14-11 with a 3.24 ERA for the Dodgers last season, his fourth with the club. He came up with the Mariners but was traded midway through his rookie season to the Red Sox. He spent over seven years there as a starter and reliever, saving 42 games in 2000.
Lowe, John Smoltz and Dennis Eckersley are the only pitchers to win 20 or more games in one season and save 40 or more in another.
A two-time All-Star, Lowe is 126-107 with a 3.75 ERA and 85 saves in his career.
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From Chicagosports...
After spending much of the last two winters wondering about his job security in Chicago, Mark DeRosa was sent to Cleveland on Wednesday following the signing of second baseman Aaron Miles.
The Cubs acquired three pitching prospects from the Indians for DeRosa -- right-hander Jeff Stevens, who was added to the 40-man roster, lefty John Gaub and right-hander Chris Archer.
The addition of three prospects could signal the rekindling of talks with San Diego for right-hander Jake Peavy, now that Colorado has agreed in principle to take starter Jason Marquis for Luis Vizcaino, opening up a spot in the rotation.
General manager Jim Hendry will address the media later today. But in a statement, Hendry called the trade of DeRosa a chance to “stock” the farm system and “modify the balance and shape of our major league roster, and to give our rising talent a chance to contribute more regularly at the major league level.”
The popular DeRosa was in the final year of a three-year deal and had been dangled by the Cubs all winter, after they tried to acquire Brian Roberts to take his second base spot last year. Though he was one of the more valuable Cubs players and a fan favorite, the Cubs wanted to add some left-handed hitting to the lineup, and DeRosa was deemed the most expendable.
Stevens, 25, went 5-4 with a 3.24 ERA in 2008 in Double-A Akron and Triple-A Buffalo, with a .184 batting average against. He averaged 12.5 strikeouts per nine innings, and had a 3:1 strikeouts-to-walks ratio. If the Cubs don’t sent him to San Diego, he’ll get a chance to compete for a middle relief spot this spring.
Gaub and Archer aren’t anywhere close to being major league ready. Gaub, 23, was 1-1 with a 3.38 ERA in Class A in his first full season, averaging 14.1 strikeouts per nine innings. Archer, 20, was 4-8 with a 4.29 ERA in Class A.
The Cubs acquired three pitching prospects from the Indians for DeRosa -- right-hander Jeff Stevens, who was added to the 40-man roster, lefty John Gaub and right-hander Chris Archer.
The addition of three prospects could signal the rekindling of talks with San Diego for right-hander Jake Peavy, now that Colorado has agreed in principle to take starter Jason Marquis for Luis Vizcaino, opening up a spot in the rotation.
General manager Jim Hendry will address the media later today. But in a statement, Hendry called the trade of DeRosa a chance to “stock” the farm system and “modify the balance and shape of our major league roster, and to give our rising talent a chance to contribute more regularly at the major league level.”
The popular DeRosa was in the final year of a three-year deal and had been dangled by the Cubs all winter, after they tried to acquire Brian Roberts to take his second base spot last year. Though he was one of the more valuable Cubs players and a fan favorite, the Cubs wanted to add some left-handed hitting to the lineup, and DeRosa was deemed the most expendable.
Stevens, 25, went 5-4 with a 3.24 ERA in 2008 in Double-A Akron and Triple-A Buffalo, with a .184 batting average against. He averaged 12.5 strikeouts per nine innings, and had a 3:1 strikeouts-to-walks ratio. If the Cubs don’t sent him to San Diego, he’ll get a chance to compete for a middle relief spot this spring.
Gaub and Archer aren’t anywhere close to being major league ready. Gaub, 23, was 1-1 with a 3.38 ERA in Class A in his first full season, averaging 14.1 strikeouts per nine innings. Archer, 20, was 4-8 with a 4.29 ERA in Class A.
#206
Rays Sign Pat Burrell To 2-Year Deal Worth $16 Million
...good DH pickup for them IMO, still might get Griffey too
...good DH pickup for them IMO, still might get Griffey too
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Story here: http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9032106/Sources:-Cubs,-Bradley-agree-to-3-year,-$30M-deal
#210
Race Director
Rays Sign Pat Burrell To 2-Year Deal Worth $16 Million
...good DH pickup for them IMO, still might get Griffey too
...good DH pickup for them IMO, still might get Griffey too
get the Met killer out of the national league
#212
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Giambi To A's Imminent?
According to ESPN's Buster Olney, the A's have made significant progress in their talks with Jason Giambi. He says a deal appears imminent. Mychael Urban heard today that the A's could sign Giambi this week, possibly for one year with an option.
According to ESPN's Buster Olney, the A's have made significant progress in their talks with Jason Giambi. He says a deal appears imminent. Mychael Urban heard today that the A's could sign Giambi this week, possibly for one year with an option.
#214
Senior Moderator
^ Well, more key is that Bradley is a left-handed bat...and the Cubs have pretty much nothing from there.
But, above all...I just pray that A-Ram and Soriano have learned plate discipline over the winter. Then again, that is wishful thinking.
But, above all...I just pray that A-Ram and Soriano have learned plate discipline over the winter. Then again, that is wishful thinking.
#215
Race Director
We will have to see where this gets them, but they are driving the market.
Mets will not raise offer to Lowe
Derek Lowe | Dodgers | Interested: Red Sox? Phillies? Mets?
The New York Mets, confident that they have no serious competition for Derek Lowe, do not intend to raise their three-year, $36-million offer to the righthander at this time, Newsday reported. Lowe ranks as the Mets' first choice to replace Oliver Perez in their starting rotation, but they also are negotiating with Perez himself and lefthander Randy Wolf. Agent Scott Boras represents both Lowe and Perez. The Mets appear to be running the industry when it comes to what's left of the starting pitchers. None of the trio of Lowe, Perez and Wolf figures to commit anywhere before checking with the Mets first. Newsday added that Mets general manager Omar Minaya and his assistsants also have internally discussed a plan to re-sign injury-plagued Pedro Martinez, assuming Martinez is amenable to a contract with a low base salary and heavy with incentives.
I think then he is done, no one else is going to offer him a contract.
Pettitte rejects Yankees $10 million offer
Andy Pettitte | Yankees | Interested: Dodgers?
Free agent left-hander Andy Pettitte has rejected the one-year, $10 million offer from the New York Yankees and there is no standing offer for now, the New York Times reported. The newspaper said Pettitte could return because some in the Yankees' hierarchy want him back. But in a winter of aggressive activity, the Yankees so far have been unwilling to bend for Pettitte. The offer to Pettitte represented a 37.5 percent decrease from his $16 million salary last season. Pettitte considered the offer for weeks, then met with General Manager Brian Cashman in Texas after the winter meetings last month.
Dodgers, Manny still talking
Manny Ramirez | Dodgers | Interested: Rangers? Giants?
Manny Ramirez still doesn't have a new offer from the Los Angeles Dodgers, but general manager Ned Colletti told the Los Angeles Times he and Scott Boras, the player's agent, are still talking and have been since Friday. "We still have differences on what we think, but we're still talking," Colletti said. In November, the Dodgers offered Ramirez a two-year, $45-million contract that they withdrew two weeks later when the player was able to open negotiations with other clubs. As for another Boras client, outfielder Andruw Jones intends to be an everyday player, the agent said, adding, "We're just looking for a situation."
Falls into the yea right category, I don't think he will get that money in this economy.
Abreu asking for 3 years, $48 million
Bobby Abreu | Yankees
Yahoo Sports reported that free agent Bobby Abreu is looking for a $48 million contract over three years, which explains the tepid market for an outfielder who has driven in 100 or more runs six years in a row and scored 98 or more 10 years in a row. The Chicago Cubs considered Abreu before agreeing to a deal with Milton Bradley, but Abreu's demands priced himself out early, Yahoo Sports added. The Rays were a possible suitor for Abreu, but that option likely disappeared when Tampa Bay agreed to a deal with Pat Burrell on Monday.
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Derek Lowe | Dodgers | Interested: Red Sox? Phillies? Mets?
The New York Mets, confident that they have no serious competition for Derek Lowe, do not intend to raise their three-year, $36-million offer to the righthander at this time, Newsday reported. Lowe ranks as the Mets' first choice to replace Oliver Perez in their starting rotation, but they also are negotiating with Perez himself and lefthander Randy Wolf. Agent Scott Boras represents both Lowe and Perez. The Mets appear to be running the industry when it comes to what's left of the starting pitchers. None of the trio of Lowe, Perez and Wolf figures to commit anywhere before checking with the Mets first. Newsday added that Mets general manager Omar Minaya and his assistsants also have internally discussed a plan to re-sign injury-plagued Pedro Martinez, assuming Martinez is amenable to a contract with a low base salary and heavy with incentives.
I think then he is done, no one else is going to offer him a contract.
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Andy Pettitte | Yankees | Interested: Dodgers?
Free agent left-hander Andy Pettitte has rejected the one-year, $10 million offer from the New York Yankees and there is no standing offer for now, the New York Times reported. The newspaper said Pettitte could return because some in the Yankees' hierarchy want him back. But in a winter of aggressive activity, the Yankees so far have been unwilling to bend for Pettitte. The offer to Pettitte represented a 37.5 percent decrease from his $16 million salary last season. Pettitte considered the offer for weeks, then met with General Manager Brian Cashman in Texas after the winter meetings last month.
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Manny Ramirez | Dodgers | Interested: Rangers? Giants?
Manny Ramirez still doesn't have a new offer from the Los Angeles Dodgers, but general manager Ned Colletti told the Los Angeles Times he and Scott Boras, the player's agent, are still talking and have been since Friday. "We still have differences on what we think, but we're still talking," Colletti said. In November, the Dodgers offered Ramirez a two-year, $45-million contract that they withdrew two weeks later when the player was able to open negotiations with other clubs. As for another Boras client, outfielder Andruw Jones intends to be an everyday player, the agent said, adding, "We're just looking for a situation."
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Bobby Abreu | Yankees
Yahoo Sports reported that free agent Bobby Abreu is looking for a $48 million contract over three years, which explains the tepid market for an outfielder who has driven in 100 or more runs six years in a row and scored 98 or more 10 years in a row. The Chicago Cubs considered Abreu before agreeing to a deal with Milton Bradley, but Abreu's demands priced himself out early, Yahoo Sports added. The Rays were a possible suitor for Abreu, but that option likely disappeared when Tampa Bay agreed to a deal with Pat Burrell on Monday.
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Team Owner
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Derek Lowe | Dodgers | Interested: Red Sox? Phillies? Mets?
The New York Mets, confident that they have no serious competition for Derek Lowe, do not intend to raise their three-year, $36-million offer to the righthander at this time, Newsday reported. Lowe ranks as the Mets' first choice to replace Oliver Perez in their starting rotation, but they also are negotiating with Perez himself and lefthander Randy Wolf. Agent Scott Boras represents both Lowe and Perez. The Mets appear to be running the industry when it comes to what's left of the starting pitchers. None of the trio of Lowe, Perez and Wolf figures to commit anywhere before checking with the Mets first. Newsday added that Mets general manager Omar Minaya and his assistsants also have internally discussed a plan to re-sign injury-plagued Pedro Martinez, assuming Martinez is amenable to a contract with a low base salary and heavy with incentives.
I would like to see Perez back if Lowe doesn't (or does) accept the offer. I think he definitely has issues, but he can be a damn fine pitcher if he gets his head on right.
#219
Sure he might have a productive year, but at the same time he has the personality to destroy team chemistry and clubhouse atmosphere, and who knows how he'll get along with Pinella.
Who knows though, he might be happy and not make a peep. I guess you can't do anything without taking chances.
#220
My Garage
If no one else is banging on his door, then why bother raising the offer. But they better lock up at least one more starter before too long. As it stands there are 3 starting spots filled. I really don't want to see the Mets resign Pedro.
I would like to see Perez back if Lowe doesn't (or does) accept the offer. I think he definitely has issues, but he can be a damn fine pitcher if he gets his head on right.
I would like to see Perez back if Lowe doesn't (or does) accept the offer. I think he definitely has issues, but he can be a damn fine pitcher if he gets his head on right.
#221
Benchwarmer
I checked out the MLB channel that Bug Selig is so excited about. They had Harold Reynolds and Mitch Williams
talking Hot Stove stuff. It would be nice if they showed a few games a week (that didn't feature the Yankees, Mets or Red Sox).
The HD does look nice.
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The HD does look nice.
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#227
Race Director
surprise surprise, Boras stretches the truth again
All I have to say, is that no one will offer manny that much money for that many years, the best he is going to do is a 1 or 2 year contract.
His attitude sucks, yes he is a phenomenal hitter but you cannot guarantee that he won't pull another Boston stunt and leave you holding a worthless contract for a player that won't play.
Sources: Giants can't afford Manny
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<!-- begin story body --> <!-- template inline -->As hard as Scott Boras may be trying to portray the San Francisco Giants as serious bidders for Manny Ramirez, it's even harder to find executives in baseball who believe that.
According to one source familiar with the Giants' thinking, just about every recent rumor connecting the Giants with Manny is "unfounded" or "baloney." "If a million things came together over the next few weeks, would it be possible? Maybe," the source told ESPN.com. "But for where [Boras] is right now and where the team is right now, it doesn't make sense economically and it doesn't make sense for how the team fits together." Sources tell ESPN.com that in a conversation with the Dodgers last Friday, Boras continued to talk about five-year and four-year deals worth upward of $25 million a year.
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<!-- begin story body --> <!-- template inline -->As hard as Scott Boras may be trying to portray the San Francisco Giants as serious bidders for Manny Ramirez, it's even harder to find executives in baseball who believe that.
According to one source familiar with the Giants' thinking, just about every recent rumor connecting the Giants with Manny is "unfounded" or "baloney." "If a million things came together over the next few weeks, would it be possible? Maybe," the source told ESPN.com. "But for where [Boras] is right now and where the team is right now, it doesn't make sense economically and it doesn't make sense for how the team fits together." Sources tell ESPN.com that in a conversation with the Dodgers last Friday, Boras continued to talk about five-year and four-year deals worth upward of $25 million a year.
His attitude sucks, yes he is a phenomenal hitter but you cannot guarantee that he won't pull another Boston stunt and leave you holding a worthless contract for a player that won't play.
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1-year deal...Story here: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html
#229
Sure he might have a productive year, but at the same time he has the personality to destroy team chemistry and clubhouse atmosphere, and who knows how he'll get along with Pinella.
Who knows though, he might be happy and not make a peep. I guess you can't do anything without taking chances.
Who knows though, he might be happy and not make a peep. I guess you can't do anything without taking chances.
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...honestly, I can't wait to watch him go Milton on one of the fans, umps, coaches, ballboys, announcers and/or players...it's bound to happen eventually...isn't that why they got him anyway?
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#233
Senior Moderator
It could go either way I think...Milton is a fiery player but he's also gone bonkers on a GM, manager, teammates before too...And, he's patrolling the same area of the field that Jacque Jones used to play and that guy (who was actually quite the laidback player) accused the fans in the bleachers of being rracist...I'm almost inclined to set the over/under when Milton chases some fans with a bat.
#235
It could go either way I think...Milton is a fiery player but he's also gone bonkers on a GM, manager, teammates before too...And, he's patrolling the same area of the field that Jacque Jones used to play and that guy (who was actually quite the laidback player) accused the fans in the bleachers of being rracist...I'm almost inclined to set the over/under when Milton chases some fans with a bat.
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Enjoy the cellar after he destroys the team
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#236
My Garage
It could go either way I think...Milton is a fiery player but he's also gone bonkers on a GM, manager, teammates before too...And, he's patrolling the same area of the field that Jacque Jones used to play and that guy (who was actually quite the laidback player) accused the fans in the bleachers of being rracist...I'm almost inclined to set the over/under when Milton chases some fans with a bat.
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