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Old Mar 24, 2017 | 02:43 PM
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2017 will be a Hamilton and Vettel battle for the championship
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Old Mar 24, 2017 | 05:49 PM
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Vettel was second in FP2. We're going to have to wait for quali to know if anything has changed this year. HAM still looks like the king.
im hoping Ferrari isnt showing their full hand yet
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Old Mar 24, 2017 | 08:13 PM
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im hoping Ferrari isnt showing their full hand yet
Yeah, practice is kind of torture in that respect.
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Old Mar 24, 2017 | 08:56 PM
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im hoping Ferrari isnt showing their full hand yet
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Old Mar 24, 2017 | 10:46 PM
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From FP3: "23:41 More fastest times from the Ferraris. Raikkonen is now back to second on a 1m23.988s, but it's Vettel who's continuing to make the most of the running at the front on a 1m23.380s."
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Old Mar 24, 2017 | 10:55 PM
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Has Stroll Crashed Today?

Yep, just hit the wall at turn 10 with about 8 min. remaining in FP3.


Meanwhile, THE HULK hits P5 in FP3!!!!


RESULTS - F1 Practice 3, Australian GP (60min)
1. (5) Sebastian Vettel (Ferrari) 1m23.380s
2. (77) Valtteri Bottas (Mercedes) +0.479s
3. (44) Lewis Hamilton (Mercedes) +0.490s
4. (7) Kimi Raikkonen (Ferrari) +0.608s
5. (27) Nico Hulkenberg (Renault) +1.683s
6. (3) Daniel Ricciardo (Red Bull) +1.712s
7. (8) Romain Grosjean (Haas) +2.201s
8. (55) Carlos Sainz (Toro Rosso) +2.568s
9. (26) Daniil Kvyat (Toro Rosso) +2.669s
10. (20) Kevin Magnussen (Haas) +2.758s
11. (19) Felipe Massa (Williams) +2.857s
12. (33) Max Verstappen (Red Bull) +2.889s
13. (11) Sergio Perez (Force India) +3.077s
14. (14) Fernando Alonso (McLaren) +3.176s
15. (2) Stoffel Vandoorne (McLaren) +3.319s
16. (31) Esteban Ocon (Force India) +3.723s
17. (18) Lance Stroll (Williams) +3.947s
18. (9) Marcus Ericsson (Sauber) +4.022s
19. (30) Jolyon Palmer (Renault) +4.940s
20. (36) Antonio Giovinazzi (Sauber) +5.203s

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Old Mar 24, 2017 | 11:35 PM
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Old Mar 25, 2017 | 05:31 AM
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OMFG..look at the speeds through the corners!

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Old Mar 25, 2017 | 08:37 AM
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Well Mercedes appears to still be fastest, but Ferrari has really seemed to have closed the gap. This could turn out to be a real battle.
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Old Mar 25, 2017 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Black Tire
OMFG..look at the speeds through the corners!
Slowest speed I could see through the corners was ~100 kmh/62 mph.... crazy. I hear they're pulling 8G's in some corners.




Full qualifying results for the Australian Grand Prix at Albert Park, round one of the 2017 Formula 1 World Championship.

1. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes - Mercedes 1m 22.188s
2. Sebastian Vettel GER Ferrari - Ferrari 1m 22.456s
3. Valtteri Bottas FIN Mercedes - Mercedes 1m 22.481s
4. Kimi Raikkonen FIN Ferrari - Ferrari 1m 23.033s
5. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull - TAG 1m 23.485s6. Romain Grosjean FRA Haas-Ferrari 1m 24.074s
7. Felipe Massa BRA Williams - Mercedes 1m 24.443s
8. Carlos Sainz ESP Toro Rosso-Renault 1m 24.487s
9. Daniil Kvyat RUS Toro Rosso-Renault 1m 24.512s
10. Daniel Ricciardo AUS Red Bull - TAG No Time

11. Sergio Perez MEX Force India-Mercedes 1m 25.081s
12. Nico Hulkenberg GER Renault - Renault 1m 25.091s
13. Fernando Alonso ESP McLaren-Honda 1m 25.425s
14. Esteban Ocon FRA Force India-Mercedes 1m 25.568s
15. Marcus Ericsson SWE Sauber - Ferrari 1m 26.465s

16. Antonio Giovinazzi ITA Sauber - Ferrari 1m 26.419s
17. Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas-Ferrari 1m 26.847s
18. Stoffel Vandoorne BEL McLaren-Honda 1m 26.858s
19. Lance Stroll CAN Williams - Mercedes 1m 27.143s *
20. Jolyon Palmer GBR Renault - Renault 1m 28.244s

* denotes five-place grid penalty to be added

Withdrawn

Pascal Wehrlein GER Sauber - Ferrari

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Old Mar 25, 2017 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Well Mercedes appears to still be fastest, but Ferrari has really seemed to have closed the gap. This could turn out to be a real battle.
The Merc looks fastest based on qualifying, but not fast enough to negate driver talent. As a tifoso, I'm excited for this season.
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Old Mar 25, 2017 | 01:38 PM
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c. 1967--forty years ago...

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Old Mar 25, 2017 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by kurtatx
The Merc looks fastest based on qualifying, but not fast enough to negate driver talent. As a tifoso, I'm excited for this season.
It really looked like the Merc setup favored one sector and the Ferrari favored another sector. I think it will really come down to strategy/pit stops tomorrow. Especially if the Ferrari can get a better start and get out front.
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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 12:11 AM
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Someone's been practicing their standing starts....
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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 01:17 AM
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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 01:25 AM
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Quite the battle (three-wide!!) for P10 between Ocon, Nando, and the Hulk.... Maybe the best racing of the day right there....

Seb and the Scuderia FTW.... LCH Bottas

Race Results (Classification):
  1. Sebastian Vettel Ferrari
  2. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
  3. Valtteri Bottas Mercedes
  4. Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari
  5. Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing
  6. Felipe Massa Williams
  7. Sergio Perez Force India
  8. Carlos Sainz Toro Rosso
  9. Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso
  10. Esteban Ocon Force India
  11. Nico Hulkenberg Renault
  12. Antonio Giovinazzi Sauber
  13. Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren
  14. Fernando Alonso McLaren DNF
  15. Kevin Magnussen Haas DNF
  16. Lance Stroll Williams DNF
  17. Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing DNF
  18. Marcus Ericsson Sauber DNF
  19. Jolyon Palmer Renault DNF
  20. Romain Grosjean Haas DNF

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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 01:52 AM
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Ocon was impressive, picking up 4 places and keeping the Hulk from the points....







Huge rate of attrition with 7 DNFs (35% of the field!)... Verstappen posts fastest lap of the race (1m27.045s) .



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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 02:14 AM
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Edit: Kimi (not Max) posted the fastest lap of the race (1m26.538s)

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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 10:54 AM
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Brilliant strategy by Vettel/Ferrari after last yesr's botched strategy
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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 07:51 PM
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Awesome to see Ferrari and Vettel grab the win. Ocon was definitely impressive.
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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 08:33 PM
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I'm happy for Vettel. Finally a win after leaving RBR. I am curious as to how overtaking will be this year with these wide cars. Pit strategies and tire management is all good but I want to see some good wheel-to-wheel action.
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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by knight rider
I'm happy for Vettel. Finally a win after leaving RBR. I am curious as to how overtaking will be this year with these wide cars. Pit strategies and tire management is all good but I want to see some good wheel-to-wheel action.
He won three times with Ferrari in 2015 - Malaysia, Hungary, Singapore.
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Old Mar 27, 2017 | 02:36 AM
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Congrats to the McLaren-Honda team. At least the Honda powerplants are reliable, even though under powered.
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Old Mar 27, 2017 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by knight rider
I'm happy for Vettel. Finally a win after leaving RBR. I am curious as to how overtaking will be this year with these wide cars. Pit strategies and tire management is all good but I want to see some good wheel-to-wheel action.
Im gonna guess there is going to be little passing this season. And with how well these tires seem to last i dont see many 3 + stoppers
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Old Mar 27, 2017 | 08:03 AM
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BBC F1 commentary

What's next for McLaren/Honda

What next for McLaren-Honda? - BBC Sport

Very interesting commentary from BBC F1 on the McLaren/Honda situation.


Australian Grand Prix: Ferrari are back as title contenders with Mercedes - BBC Sport

Also very good commentary on the resurgence of Ferrari and 2017 how the MB may have lost their dominance in maintaining their tires even in traffic.

One take away was the calmness of Vettel's radio and out of car interviews, versus Hamilton's radio transmissions where he sounded agitated when asked to pass Max.

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Old Mar 27, 2017 | 08:36 AM
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That 3 wide move was pretty crazy. A good race overall. Shame for Ricciardo
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Old Mar 27, 2017 | 09:21 AM
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Some new pics from Melbourne of the Ferrari SF70.

Ferrari SF70H - Racecar Engineering

The SF70 front suspension linkage is very similar to MB in 2017, but I'm really curious what that two piece link section that is hinged in the middle does?
The big red rings are the torsion bar end elements

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Old Mar 28, 2017 | 07:50 AM
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Old Mar 28, 2017 | 08:06 AM
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Old Mar 28, 2017 | 10:17 AM
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Does the media always have someone with video waiting for Toto to pound his fist at a race?
There could be a compilation video of that.
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Old Mar 28, 2017 | 10:26 AM
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No, Toto only does it for the cameras.

I'm really excited about this season now. Hard to say if Ferrari has shown their full hand. Was Vettel just cruising?
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Not going to be a lot of passing-Alonso was 27 kmh slower down the straight than Ocon and held him off nonetheless.
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USGP tickets.
Where would you get tickets? GA or grandstands? Turn 4 is probably in my budget, maybe 15 lower level.
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Old Mar 28, 2017 | 02:35 PM
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Old Mar 28, 2017 | 04:24 PM
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USGP tickets.
Where would you get tickets? GA or grandstands? Turn 4 is probably in my budget, maybe 15 lower level.
I would buy Grandstand 12 way before I bought 4.
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Old Mar 28, 2017 | 08:57 PM
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Not going to be a lot of passing-Alonso was 27 kmh slower down the straight than Ocon and held him off nonetheless.
True, but Melbourne is always a tough track to pass. The DRS didn't seem to help much.
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
USGP tickets.
Where would you get tickets? GA or grandstands? Turn 4 is probably in my budget, maybe 15 lower level.
I always go GA.
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Originally Posted by Chief F1 Fan
I would buy Grandstand 12 way before I bought 4.
Turn 12 does look a lot better & about the same price in the lower level as 4.

Originally Posted by kurtatx
I always go GA.
What all does GA get you, as compared to grandstand seating?
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Old Mar 29, 2017 | 09:47 AM
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Amazon Revs Up McLaren F1 Racing Docuseries

Amazon Revs Up McLaren F1 Racing Docuseries For Prime Video | Deadline

Despite the massive problems at McLaren/Honda this season this could be very entertaining.

Buckle up, racing fans — Amazon has waved the green flag at a docuseries that offers unprecedented access to the McLaren racing team as it competes in the 2017 FIA Formula 1 World Championship. The untitled project will be exclusive on Amazon Prime Video, though no premiere date was announced.

The series follows McLaren, founded in 1963, as the team prepares to challenge for the championship, with new Executive Director and former racer Zak Brown leading the chase. Featuring exclusive access from McLaren to the technically competitive and secretive world of racing, the series will embed viewers with the team and its drivers: rookie Stoffel Vandoorne and former double world champion Fernando Alonso. The show features coverage of the physical and mental preparation of a Formula 1 crew, including exclusive footage of how McLaren builds and tests a Formula 1 car, and previously unseen behind-the-scenes coverage of the sponsor and partnership deals that finance the team.

“The series will take Amazon Prime members inside what it takes to compete at the highest level of Formula 1 racing,” said Conrad Riggs, Head of Unscripted at Amazon Originals. “It will combine unparalleled access with exciting and dramatic storytelling that will appeal to racing fans and non-racing fans alike.”

Said EP Manish Pandey: “McLaren dominated F1 in the modern era, creating champions like Ayrton Senna and Lewis Hamilton. But they are also a family who have recently gone through difficult times, both on track and off. And like all families, we will watch them pull together to regain their rightful place at the head of F1.”

Chris Connell and Anwar Nuseibeh also serve as executive producers on the series.
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