Formula One: 2017 Season News and Discussion Thread
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Slow zone in a race? Seems odd. But, I know only a little regarding triathlons.
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The Blue Oval takes a pass.... Ford Chief Admits He "Doesn't See Us Going Back to F1" | Motorsport.com
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FP1 in Shanghai red-flagged for 30 min. because medivac chopper can't fly due to poor visibility (rain)....
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FP1's pretty much a wash after a 2nd red-flag following a yellow due to the Hulk's back end snapping loose and sending him into a gravel trap.
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FP1 results
Times
1 Max Verstappen Red Bull 1:50.491 4 laps
2 Felipe Massa Williams 1:52.086 1.595 7 laps
3 Lance Stroll Williams 1:52.507 2.016 7 laps
4 Carlos Sainz Toro Rosso 1:52.840 2.349 5 laps
5 Romain Grosjean Haas 1:53.039 2.548 6 laps
6 Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso 1:53.314 2.823 4 laps
7 Fernando Alonso McLaren 1:53.520 3.029 5 laps
8 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull 1:54.038 3.547 7 laps
9 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 1:54.664 4.173 4 laps
10 Kevin Magnussen Haas 1:55.104 4.613 8 laps
11 Nico Hulkenberg Renault Sport 1:55.608 5.117 6 laps
12 Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren 1:57.445 6.954 4 laps
13 Marcus Ericsson Sauber 2:15.138 24.647 4 laps
14 Antonio Giovinazzi Sauber 2:15.281 24.79 4 laps
15 Jolyon Palmer Renault Sport no time 3 laps
16 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari no time 2 laps
17 Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari no time 1 lap
18 Esteban Ocon Force India no time 2 laps
19 Sergio Perez Force India no time 3 laps
20 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes no time 2 laps
Times
1 Max Verstappen Red Bull 1:50.491 4 laps
2 Felipe Massa Williams 1:52.086 1.595 7 laps
3 Lance Stroll Williams 1:52.507 2.016 7 laps
4 Carlos Sainz Toro Rosso 1:52.840 2.349 5 laps
5 Romain Grosjean Haas 1:53.039 2.548 6 laps
6 Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso 1:53.314 2.823 4 laps
7 Fernando Alonso McLaren 1:53.520 3.029 5 laps
8 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull 1:54.038 3.547 7 laps
9 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 1:54.664 4.173 4 laps
10 Kevin Magnussen Haas 1:55.104 4.613 8 laps
11 Nico Hulkenberg Renault Sport 1:55.608 5.117 6 laps
12 Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren 1:57.445 6.954 4 laps
13 Marcus Ericsson Sauber 2:15.138 24.647 4 laps
14 Antonio Giovinazzi Sauber 2:15.281 24.79 4 laps
15 Jolyon Palmer Renault Sport no time 3 laps
16 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari no time 2 laps
17 Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari no time 1 lap
18 Esteban Ocon Force India no time 2 laps
19 Sergio Perez Force India no time 3 laps
20 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes no time 2 laps
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The Blue Oval takes a pass.... Ford Chief Admits He "Doesn't See Us Going Back to F1" Motorsport.com
Look at all the bad press Honda is getting for their $100m's in current F1 investment.
FWIW, the original Ford/Cosworth DFV V8 F1 engine family that won
155 F1 races
10 F1 WCC
12 F1 WDC
2 LeMans
10 Indy500
all for a initial develop cost of £100,000 in 1965 which is ~$1.5m today.
Best racing investment Ford ever made.
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The McLaren-Honda's may produce good results in the wet as long as the Honda engines are reliable, since horsepower deficit is not an issue on wet, slippery tracks.
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Tough break in Q1 for Verstappen, whom I almost picked as my fantasy choice. He may well storm up the field if they run in the wet tomorrow. Meanwhile, the Hulk is destroying his teammate Palmer, while the rook Stroll is holding his own. Massa's not doing too shabbily either.... But.....
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Full Qualifying results for the Chinese Grand Prix at the Shanghai International Circuit, round two of the 2017 Formula 1 World Championship (F1).
1. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes - Mercedes 1m 31.678s
2. Sebastian Vettel GER Ferrari - Ferrari 1m 31.864s
3. Valtteri Bottas FIN Mercedes - Mercedes 1m 31.865s
4. Kimi Raikkonen FIN Ferrari - Ferrari 1m 32.140s
5. Daniel Ricciardo AUS Red Bull - TAG 1m 33.033s
6. Felipe Massa BRA Williams - Mercedes 1m 33.507s
7. Nico Hulkenberg GER Renault - Renault 1m 33.580s
8. Sergio Perez MEX Force India-Mercedes 1m 33.706s
9. Daniil Kvyat RUS Toro Rosso-Renault 1m 33.719s
10. Lance Stroll CAN Williams - Mercedes 1m 34.220s
11. Carlos Sainz ESP Toro Rosso-Renault 1m 34.150s
12. Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas-Ferrari 1m 34.164s
13. Fernando Alonso ESP McLaren-Honda 1m 34.372s
14. Marcus Ericsson SWE Sauber - Ferrari 1m 35.046s
15. Antonio Giovinazzi ITA Sauber - Ferrari No Q2 Time
16. Stoffel Vandoorne BEL McLaren-Honda 1m 35.023s
17. Romain Grosjean FRA Haas-Ferrari 1m 35.223s *
18. Jolyon Palmer GBR Renault - Renault 1m 35.279s *
19. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull - TAG 1m 35.433s
20. Esteban Ocon FRA Force India-Mercedes 1m 35.496s
* to take additional five-place grid penalty for not slowing sufficiently for yellow flags
all times unofficial
Bottas does not look at all pleased either on the podium or in the post-quali press conf....
Judging from his expression and response, Valtteri seems to be under tremendous pressure....
1. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes - Mercedes 1m 31.678s
2. Sebastian Vettel GER Ferrari - Ferrari 1m 31.864s
3. Valtteri Bottas FIN Mercedes - Mercedes 1m 31.865s
4. Kimi Raikkonen FIN Ferrari - Ferrari 1m 32.140s
5. Daniel Ricciardo AUS Red Bull - TAG 1m 33.033s
6. Felipe Massa BRA Williams - Mercedes 1m 33.507s
7. Nico Hulkenberg GER Renault - Renault 1m 33.580s
8. Sergio Perez MEX Force India-Mercedes 1m 33.706s
9. Daniil Kvyat RUS Toro Rosso-Renault 1m 33.719s
10. Lance Stroll CAN Williams - Mercedes 1m 34.220s
11. Carlos Sainz ESP Toro Rosso-Renault 1m 34.150s
12. Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas-Ferrari 1m 34.164s
13. Fernando Alonso ESP McLaren-Honda 1m 34.372s
14. Marcus Ericsson SWE Sauber - Ferrari 1m 35.046s
15. Antonio Giovinazzi ITA Sauber - Ferrari No Q2 Time
16. Stoffel Vandoorne BEL McLaren-Honda 1m 35.023s
17. Romain Grosjean FRA Haas-Ferrari 1m 35.223s *
18. Jolyon Palmer GBR Renault - Renault 1m 35.279s *
19. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull - TAG 1m 35.433s
20. Esteban Ocon FRA Force India-Mercedes 1m 35.496s
* to take additional five-place grid penalty for not slowing sufficiently for yellow flags
all times unofficial
Bottas does not look at all pleased either on the podium or in the post-quali press conf....
Judging from his expression and response, Valtteri seems to be under tremendous pressure....
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Renault (aka "Team Banana"--see A Bloke and a Bird podcast) apparently showing signs of life...
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hulkenberg-well-surprised-by-renault-pace-891177/
Still, Palmer looked less than up to the job relative to the Hulk in Shanghai qualifying.... Is that an unfair comparison? Whatever the case, the Guardian decides to run a bit of British boosterism....
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/apr/08/jolyon-palmer-formula-one-renault-chinese-grand-prix
Meanwhile, Stroll chalks-up part of his improvement from Melbourne to lighter steering:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/stroll-boosted-by-switch-to-lighter-power-steering-891241/
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hulkenberg-well-surprised-by-renault-pace-891177/
Still, Palmer looked less than up to the job relative to the Hulk in Shanghai qualifying.... Is that an unfair comparison? Whatever the case, the Guardian decides to run a bit of British boosterism....
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/apr/08/jolyon-palmer-formula-one-renault-chinese-grand-prix
Meanwhile, Stroll chalks-up part of his improvement from Melbourne to lighter steering:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/stroll-boosted-by-switch-to-lighter-power-steering-891241/
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Let me start off by saying I'm a die-hard Hamilton fan, but it looks to be an exciting championship battle between Vettel and Hamilton this year. Got me pretty excited!
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What happens when your team engineer forgets who's driving the car:
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Any thoughts about the proposed "shield" concept? I personally don't like it, but if some sort of protective device is absolutely necessary, I definitely prefer this over "the halo" or a completely enclosed cockpit.
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Looks like it could be a great battle. I think the race winner may have been different if it werent for the safety car.
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the Safety Car spun too?
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Fernando Alonso: McLaren driver to miss Monaco GP for Indianapolis 500
Fernando Alonso: McLaren driver to miss Monaco Grand Prix for Indianapolis 500 - BBC Sport
Wow, about as unexpected as Nico retiring. Definitely gonna watch this year.
Wow, about as unexpected as Nico retiring. Definitely gonna watch this year.
McLaren driver Fernando Alonso will miss the Monaco Grand Prix in May so he can race in the Indianapolis 500.
The double world champion has the full approval and support of McLaren and engine partner Honda, who are having a difficult season in Formula 1.
Alonso, 35, will race for the Honda-powered Andretti team on 28 May, and the car will be branded a McLaren.
McLaren are yet to decide who will replace him in Monaco that weekend, but Jenson Button is a possibility.
The 2009 world champion has retired from F1 but is contracted to McLaren as an ambassador. It is not known whether the Briton would want to come back to drive an uncompetitive car.Why does Alonso want to race at Indy?
Alonso said he had long held an ambition to win the so-called 'triple crown' of Monaco, the Indy 500 and Le Mans.
Only one man has won all three in his career - the late Graham Hill in the 1960s.
Alonso, who won the Monaco Grand Prix in 2006 and 2007, said: "It's a tough challenge, but I'm up for it.
"I don't know when I'm going to race at Le Mans, but one day I intend to. I'm only 35. I've got plenty of time for that.
The Spaniard added he would definitely race for McLaren for the rest of the season, dismissing speculation he could quit part way through the year because of the Honda F1 engine's poor performance.
"It's of course a regret that I won't be able to race at Monaco this year," he said. "But Monaco will be the only 2017 grand prix I'll be missing, and I'll be back in the cockpit for the Canadian Grand Prix in Montreal in early June.
"I've never raced an IndyCar car before, and neither have I ever driven on a super-speedway, but I'm confident I'll get to grips with it fast.
"I've watched a lot of IndyCar action on TV and online, and it's clear that great precision is required to race in close proximity with other cars on the far side of 220mph [354km/h]."
Alonso acknowledged he would be on "a steep learning curve".
But he added: "I'll be flying to Indianapolis from Barcelona immediately after the Spanish Grand Prix, practising our McLaren-Honda-Andretti car at Indy from 15 May onwards, hopefully clocking up a large number of miles every day, and I know how good the Andretti Autosport guys are.
"I'll be proud to race with them, and I intend to mine their knowledge and expertise for as much information as I possibly can."
McLaren have supported Alonso's wishes because they recognise the efforts he has been putting in - and the frustration he is feeling - after three uncompetitive seasons since joining the team in 2015.How will Alonso do?
McLaren executive director Zak Brown said: "Could Fernando win this year's Indy 500? Well, I wouldn't be so silly as to make any such rash prediction, but I expect him to be in the mix.
"Put it this way: the team he'll be racing for won the race last year, using the same Honda engine, and he's the best racing driver in the world. That's quite a compelling combination.
"OK, equally, he'll have his work cut out to acclimatise to running at super-speedway velocities, but ultimately it's quality that counts in all forms of motorsport, and Fernando is very definitely quality. He's ballsy and brave too."
Alonso joined McLaren-Honda with the intention of winning a third world title, but the package has been uncompetitive, with the vast majority of the blame lying with the Honda engine. His best results have been three fifth places.
He has won 32 grands prix - sixth in the all-time list - but has not stood on top of the podium since the 2013 Spanish Grand Prix in a Ferrari.
Alonso's contract runs out at the end of this season. McLaren want him to re-sign and there is a hope this will help persuade him to do so.38 years on - McLaren back in Indy
The unexpected development marks McLaren's return to the Indy 500 for the first time in 38 years. They won the race with their own car in 1974 and 1976.
IndyCars is a now a 'spec' formula, where all teams use the same car, though the different engine manufacturers are allowed to design their own aerodynamic bodykits.
The Indy 500 is the most prestigious race in the USA and is the blue riband event of the IndyCar Series.
The Andretti team, run by former Indycar and grand prix driver Michael Andretti, is one of the leading teams in the championship and won the event last year with American Alexander Rossi, who raced five times in F1 for the Manor team in 2015.
Andretti raced for McLaren in F1 in 1993 as Ayrton Senna's team-mate, completing 13 races with one podium finish before being replaced by Finn Mika Hakkinen and returning to race in the US.
The double world champion has the full approval and support of McLaren and engine partner Honda, who are having a difficult season in Formula 1.
Alonso, 35, will race for the Honda-powered Andretti team on 28 May, and the car will be branded a McLaren.
McLaren are yet to decide who will replace him in Monaco that weekend, but Jenson Button is a possibility.
The 2009 world champion has retired from F1 but is contracted to McLaren as an ambassador. It is not known whether the Briton would want to come back to drive an uncompetitive car.Why does Alonso want to race at Indy?
Alonso said he had long held an ambition to win the so-called 'triple crown' of Monaco, the Indy 500 and Le Mans.
Only one man has won all three in his career - the late Graham Hill in the 1960s.
Alonso, who won the Monaco Grand Prix in 2006 and 2007, said: "It's a tough challenge, but I'm up for it.
"I don't know when I'm going to race at Le Mans, but one day I intend to. I'm only 35. I've got plenty of time for that.
The Spaniard added he would definitely race for McLaren for the rest of the season, dismissing speculation he could quit part way through the year because of the Honda F1 engine's poor performance.
"It's of course a regret that I won't be able to race at Monaco this year," he said. "But Monaco will be the only 2017 grand prix I'll be missing, and I'll be back in the cockpit for the Canadian Grand Prix in Montreal in early June.
"I've never raced an IndyCar car before, and neither have I ever driven on a super-speedway, but I'm confident I'll get to grips with it fast.
"I've watched a lot of IndyCar action on TV and online, and it's clear that great precision is required to race in close proximity with other cars on the far side of 220mph [354km/h]."
Alonso acknowledged he would be on "a steep learning curve".
But he added: "I'll be flying to Indianapolis from Barcelona immediately after the Spanish Grand Prix, practising our McLaren-Honda-Andretti car at Indy from 15 May onwards, hopefully clocking up a large number of miles every day, and I know how good the Andretti Autosport guys are.
"I'll be proud to race with them, and I intend to mine their knowledge and expertise for as much information as I possibly can."
McLaren have supported Alonso's wishes because they recognise the efforts he has been putting in - and the frustration he is feeling - after three uncompetitive seasons since joining the team in 2015.How will Alonso do?
McLaren executive director Zak Brown said: "Could Fernando win this year's Indy 500? Well, I wouldn't be so silly as to make any such rash prediction, but I expect him to be in the mix.
"Put it this way: the team he'll be racing for won the race last year, using the same Honda engine, and he's the best racing driver in the world. That's quite a compelling combination.
"OK, equally, he'll have his work cut out to acclimatise to running at super-speedway velocities, but ultimately it's quality that counts in all forms of motorsport, and Fernando is very definitely quality. He's ballsy and brave too."
Alonso joined McLaren-Honda with the intention of winning a third world title, but the package has been uncompetitive, with the vast majority of the blame lying with the Honda engine. His best results have been three fifth places.
He has won 32 grands prix - sixth in the all-time list - but has not stood on top of the podium since the 2013 Spanish Grand Prix in a Ferrari.
Alonso's contract runs out at the end of this season. McLaren want him to re-sign and there is a hope this will help persuade him to do so.38 years on - McLaren back in Indy
The unexpected development marks McLaren's return to the Indy 500 for the first time in 38 years. They won the race with their own car in 1974 and 1976.
IndyCars is a now a 'spec' formula, where all teams use the same car, though the different engine manufacturers are allowed to design their own aerodynamic bodykits.
The Indy 500 is the most prestigious race in the USA and is the blue riband event of the IndyCar Series.
The Andretti team, run by former Indycar and grand prix driver Michael Andretti, is one of the leading teams in the championship and won the event last year with American Alexander Rossi, who raced five times in F1 for the Manor team in 2015.
Andretti raced for McLaren in F1 in 1993 as Ayrton Senna's team-mate, completing 13 races with one podium finish before being replaced by Finn Mika Hakkinen and returning to race in the US.
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Report: Honda aims to test new McLaren F1 engine after Bahrain
http://autoweek.com/article/formula-one/report-honda-aims-test-new-mclaren-f1-engine-after-bahrain
hopefully alot of positive changes happening
hopefully alot of positive changes happening
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Hows this for news?? Alonso is going to miss Monaco and race in the 500!!
McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500 | PlanetF1 : PlanetF1
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McLaren and Alonso to race at Indy 500 | PlanetF1 : PlanetF1
EDIT: REPIZZLE!
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My guess on Alonso at Indy is Zak Brown and Honda obviously want to keep him so instead of running backmarkers at Monaco let him drive a more successful Honda racing engine at Indy where if he could win would be a great PR.
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Monaco for Indy....
Alonso entertaining a jump to IndyCar after this season?
Alonso entertaining a jump to IndyCar after this season?
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Halo - V3
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/e...d-look-892544/
Here, for the first time, technical editor Giorgio Piola revealed his artists' impression of what the design could look like when fitted to a generic 2017 car.
Rather than the Shield being an attachment around the edge of the cockpit like the Halo and Aeroscreen, the solution is more integral to the nose section of the car – beginning much further forward that the two ideas already trialled.
The sloping see-through screen does not extend fully over the cockpit, even though it does end up higher than the crash helmet.
During a briefing made to drivers, they were told that while the design has proved effective in early testing for smaller pieces of debris, it is not as effective when it comes to deflecting larger items like wheels.
However, as there is resistance from teams, fans and drivers about the look of the Halo, it has been suggested that the Shield could deliver the best compromise between visuals and safety.
Some drivers believed it was more acceptable than the Halo, while others were not convinced.
Felipe Massa, who suffered a head injury when he was hit by a spring during qualifying for the 2009 Hungarian Grand Prix, believed that a final decision on which cockpit system to use should be made only on safety grounds.
"To be honest it looks really nice," said Massa, when asked by Motorsport.com for his opinion on the Shield. "It's beautiful compared to the Halo, but I don't think we need to go for how beautiful it is, but how better it is for the safety. That's the only answer we gave to them.
"If you can make it better, nicer and safer then it's done. Maybe for my accident it could have been okay this new system, but maybe for some other accidents maybe not. The wheels are much heavier now, so if you have a wheel flying and it hits it, it will not protect. So I push for the safety."
F1 teams and the FIA have agreed to introduce a form of cockpit protection for next season, but agreement has not yet been reached on which concept it should be.
A majority approval on the matter is required before the end of this month, otherwise the FIA will need unanimous backing from teams – something that may not be possible with several outfits not convinced about the need to cover cockpits.
While Formula 1 edges closer a decision on what type of cockpit head protection system will be introduced for 2018, Motorsport.com can reveal how the new 'Shield' idea being considered could look.
During Friday night's drivers' briefing at the Chinese Grand Prix, the FIA showed off a new canopy style solution that could be an alternative to the Halo or the Aeroscreen.Here, for the first time, technical editor Giorgio Piola revealed his artists' impression of what the design could look like when fitted to a generic 2017 car.
Rather than the Shield being an attachment around the edge of the cockpit like the Halo and Aeroscreen, the solution is more integral to the nose section of the car – beginning much further forward that the two ideas already trialled.
The sloping see-through screen does not extend fully over the cockpit, even though it does end up higher than the crash helmet.
During a briefing made to drivers, they were told that while the design has proved effective in early testing for smaller pieces of debris, it is not as effective when it comes to deflecting larger items like wheels.
However, as there is resistance from teams, fans and drivers about the look of the Halo, it has been suggested that the Shield could deliver the best compromise between visuals and safety.
Some drivers believed it was more acceptable than the Halo, while others were not convinced.
Felipe Massa, who suffered a head injury when he was hit by a spring during qualifying for the 2009 Hungarian Grand Prix, believed that a final decision on which cockpit system to use should be made only on safety grounds.
"To be honest it looks really nice," said Massa, when asked by Motorsport.com for his opinion on the Shield. "It's beautiful compared to the Halo, but I don't think we need to go for how beautiful it is, but how better it is for the safety. That's the only answer we gave to them.
"If you can make it better, nicer and safer then it's done. Maybe for my accident it could have been okay this new system, but maybe for some other accidents maybe not. The wheels are much heavier now, so if you have a wheel flying and it hits it, it will not protect. So I push for the safety."
F1 teams and the FIA have agreed to introduce a form of cockpit protection for next season, but agreement has not yet been reached on which concept it should be.
A majority approval on the matter is required before the end of this month, otherwise the FIA will need unanimous backing from teams – something that may not be possible with several outfits not convinced about the need to cover cockpits.
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Just leave the cockpits alone dammit
Just leave the cockpits alone dammit
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The key to Alonso's Indy deal? Stefan Wilson
Indycar Racing News | Racer.com - The key to Alonso's Indy deal? Stefan Wilson
Pretty interesting back story as to how Alonso got a Indy ride due to the generosity of Stefan Wilson (Justin Wilson's brother) giving up his ride.
Pretty interesting back story as to how Alonso got a Indy ride due to the generosity of Stefan Wilson (Justin Wilson's brother) giving up his ride.
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OK, I'm not a racing engineer, but WTF? How is this a "shield" that will protect drivers (and their heads) from flying objects/debris? What am I missing here?
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^ I guess the concept is that, rather than the Red Bull Aeroscreen, this incorporates into the nose/body of the car & still ends up higher than helmet level. Seems it would work for debris coming from ahead of the car, but less for debris arcing & coming in at a more downward angle.
Definitely the most svelte/best looking concept so far. But, the cars look much better without any of them.
Definitely the most svelte/best looking concept so far. But, the cars look much better without any of them.
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^ I guess the concept is that, rather than the Red Bull Aeroscreen, this incorporates into the nose/body of the car & still ends up higher than helmet level. Seems it would work for debris coming from ahead of the car, but less for debris arcing & coming in at a more downward angle.
Definitely the most svelte/best looking concept so far. But, the cars look much better without any of them.
Definitely the most svelte/best looking concept so far. But, the cars look much better without any of them.
I personally prefer the RBR Aeroscreen, but would love to hear what the drivers think regarding visibility, esp (as has been mentioned) in the rain.
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Button to drive for McLaren at Monaco
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^ yeah, no surprise with that decision.
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You Could Sit Behind The Wheel Of A Formula 1 Car, But You Probably Wouldn't Know How