Formula One: 2016 Season News and Discussion Thread
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Ferrari boss admits strategy error
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/fe...091322133.html
Kinda a shame the last three GP races have been lost to bad team strategy not related to the drivers
Kinda a shame the last three GP races have been lost to bad team strategy not related to the drivers
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Yep, they threw the race away on lap 10. Shame too after that blistering start by Seb. But it was just way too early to pit.
I actually loved the mini battle at the end w/Nico & Max. I was stoked for Nico storming back up the field to salvage whatever points he could muster but Max defended perfectly and Nico just went a bit too deep. Glad he didn't lose any positions though because I think it's better for the championship in general to not have a runaway winner. Onto Baku! (Not!! Im DVRing that shiz b/c of some other race that just happens to be the best race on Earth will be finishing at the same time) #Shame
I actually loved the mini battle at the end w/Nico & Max. I was stoked for Nico storming back up the field to salvage whatever points he could muster but Max defended perfectly and Nico just went a bit too deep. Glad he didn't lose any positions though because I think it's better for the championship in general to not have a runaway winner. Onto Baku! (Not!! Im DVRing that shiz b/c of some other race that just happens to be the best race on Earth will be finishing at the same time) #Shame
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Ferrari's tire strategy has been pretty bad this year, and it probably cost Vettel the win at Montreal. I expected the Mercedes to be much stronger, so the race was a hopefully a good indication that Ferrari is getting closer so we have more competitive races.
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Vettel and Hamilton were on a different level performance-wise vs. the rest of the field. Coming in to Turn 10 full throttle you could visibly see those 2 going faster than anyone else out there it seemed. The gap back to the Red Bulls/Kimi/Nico was large and growing as the race went on substantially.
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Vettel and Hamilton were on a different level performance-wise vs. the rest of the field. Coming in to Turn 10 full throttle you could visibly see those 2 going faster than anyone else out there it seemed. The gap back to the Red Bulls/Kimi/Nico was large and growing as the race went on substantially.
they were a level above everyone else
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VETTEL: A COUPLE OF SEAGULLS WANTED TO COMMIT SUICIDE
13 June, 2016
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Sebastian Vettel offered one of Formula One’s more exotic excuses on Sunday by saying he had lost time in the Canadian Grand Prix by saving two seagulls from being flattened by his Ferrari.
“I think it was a couple that wanted to commit suicide,” the German said with a smile after finishing second to Mercedes’ world champion Lewis Hamilton at a chilly Circuit Gilles Villeneuve.
“They were at the apex of turn one. Lewis obviously didn’t care so he made up quite a bit of time, about half a second, but I didn’t do that couple that favour to say goodbye for good,” the four times Formula One world champion told reporters.
“By the time Lewis came around, they just flew off. Wasn’t fair. I brake for animals, Lewis doesn’t …”
The German, who had led the race until his first pitstop, continued the theme afterwards with some relish — hijacking Hamilton’s interview with Britain’s Sky Sports television for some more good-natured banter about birds.
“I feel that you’re using the seagulls. I feel that they were innocent,” said an amused Hamilton. “I saw you lock up and then the seagulls did move.”
Getting more into the spirit, he added: “Hey man, it was planned. You know I’m good with animals, right? Like Doctor Dolittle, I told them to be there and they were there.”
Vettel insisted he had a case, even if he then undermined it by stating: “I’m a racing driver, so I have to find some sort of excuse for why the hell you beat me today.
“I went into turn one and I saw this stupid couple of seagulls standing there, all relaxed,” continued the German. “My car’s red. It’s easy to see, it doesn’t blend in like yours. That’s what really annoyed me. There’s a red car coming and they stayed there.”
The last word went to Hamilton, who celebrated the 45th win of his career and fifth in Canada, “I think I might have to buy you a couple of seagulls. I think you need a couple.”
Vettel: A couple of seagulls wanted to commit suicide | GRAND PRIX 247
13 June, 2016
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Sebastian Vettel offered one of Formula One’s more exotic excuses on Sunday by saying he had lost time in the Canadian Grand Prix by saving two seagulls from being flattened by his Ferrari.
“I think it was a couple that wanted to commit suicide,” the German said with a smile after finishing second to Mercedes’ world champion Lewis Hamilton at a chilly Circuit Gilles Villeneuve.
“They were at the apex of turn one. Lewis obviously didn’t care so he made up quite a bit of time, about half a second, but I didn’t do that couple that favour to say goodbye for good,” the four times Formula One world champion told reporters.
“By the time Lewis came around, they just flew off. Wasn’t fair. I brake for animals, Lewis doesn’t …”
The German, who had led the race until his first pitstop, continued the theme afterwards with some relish — hijacking Hamilton’s interview with Britain’s Sky Sports television for some more good-natured banter about birds.
“I feel that you’re using the seagulls. I feel that they were innocent,” said an amused Hamilton. “I saw you lock up and then the seagulls did move.”
Getting more into the spirit, he added: “Hey man, it was planned. You know I’m good with animals, right? Like Doctor Dolittle, I told them to be there and they were there.”
Vettel insisted he had a case, even if he then undermined it by stating: “I’m a racing driver, so I have to find some sort of excuse for why the hell you beat me today.
“I went into turn one and I saw this stupid couple of seagulls standing there, all relaxed,” continued the German. “My car’s red. It’s easy to see, it doesn’t blend in like yours. That’s what really annoyed me. There’s a red car coming and they stayed there.”
The last word went to Hamilton, who celebrated the 45th win of his career and fifth in Canada, “I think I might have to buy you a couple of seagulls. I think you need a couple.”
Vettel: A couple of seagulls wanted to commit suicide | GRAND PRIX 247
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I really love Vettels answers he comes up with sometimes. You can tell he is trying to have fun with them.
Kimi had some good radio talk this weekend too. I am really going to miss his radio antics if he doesn't have a seat next year.
Kimi had some good radio talk this weekend too. I am really going to miss his radio antics if he doesn't have a seat next year.
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Vettel and Hamilton were on a different level performance-wise vs. the rest of the field. Coming in to Turn 10 full throttle you could visibly see those 2 going faster than anyone else out there it seemed. The gap back to the Red Bulls/Kimi/Nico was large and growing as the race went on substantially.
Besdies driving to conserve fuel, the drivers also have to look after their tires to prevent going off and graining the tread.
Rosberg seems to have a harder time passing in traffic compared to Hamilton.
It's one area I've heard many times from the commentators how good those two are at watching after their tires.
Also the MBZ car while clearly the best car in the field in clear air at the front, it's not as good in dirty air which seems to show a bigger differential compared to other cars in the field.
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That's a good observation. Rosberg had a really difficult time passing other cars. I would have thought that with the long straights at Montreal plus DRS would have made it easy for Mercedes to pass any other cars, but that didn't prove to be the case with Rosberg.
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Having said that, I agree with you wholeheartedly about the 'other race' which I will indeed be watching & be DVRíng the Baku GP. It's also Pops Day so I'm sure I'll be hanging with my daughters and will watch Baku later on that day....
LM24 or bust!
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Baku FP1:
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:46.435
2. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:46.812
3. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Mercedes 1:47.096
4. Fernando Alonso Spain McLaren-Honda 1:47.989
5. Sebastian Vettel Germany Ferrari 1:48.627
6. Sergio Perez Mexico Force India-Mercedes 1:48.922
7. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Honda 1:49.019
8. Felipe Massa Brazil Williams-Mercedes 1:49.125
9. Carlos Sainz Spain Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:49.267
10. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:49.301
11. Romain Grosjean France Haas-Ferrari 1:49.611
12. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Ferrari 1:49.635
13. Daniel Ricciardo Autralian Red Bull-Tag Heuer 1:49.778
14. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Haas-Ferrari 1:50.167
15. Marcus Ericsson Sweden Sauber-Ferrari 1:50.473
16. Max Verstappen Netherlands Red Bull-Tag Heuer 1:50.485
17. Daniil Kvyat Russia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:50.551
18. Jolyon Palmer Britain Renault 1:50.910
19. Kevin Magnussen Denmark Renault 1:50.939
20. Pascal Wehrlein Germany MRT-Mercedes 1:51.219
21. Felipe Nasr Brazil Sauber-Ferrari 1:51.771
22. Rio Haryanto Indonesia MRT-Mercedes 1:51.925
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:46.435
2. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:46.812
3. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Mercedes 1:47.096
4. Fernando Alonso Spain McLaren-Honda 1:47.989
5. Sebastian Vettel Germany Ferrari 1:48.627
6. Sergio Perez Mexico Force India-Mercedes 1:48.922
7. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Honda 1:49.019
8. Felipe Massa Brazil Williams-Mercedes 1:49.125
9. Carlos Sainz Spain Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:49.267
10. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:49.301
11. Romain Grosjean France Haas-Ferrari 1:49.611
12. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Ferrari 1:49.635
13. Daniel Ricciardo Autralian Red Bull-Tag Heuer 1:49.778
14. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Haas-Ferrari 1:50.167
15. Marcus Ericsson Sweden Sauber-Ferrari 1:50.473
16. Max Verstappen Netherlands Red Bull-Tag Heuer 1:50.485
17. Daniil Kvyat Russia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:50.551
18. Jolyon Palmer Britain Renault 1:50.910
19. Kevin Magnussen Denmark Renault 1:50.939
20. Pascal Wehrlein Germany MRT-Mercedes 1:51.219
21. Felipe Nasr Brazil Sauber-Ferrari 1:51.771
22. Rio Haryanto Indonesia MRT-Mercedes 1:51.925
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Baku FP2:
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:44.33
2. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:44.913
3. Sergio Perez Mexico Force India-Mercedes 1:45.336
4. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Mercedes 1:45.764
5. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:45.920
6. Carlos Sainz Spain Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:46.027
7. Max Verstappen Netherlands Red Bull-Tag Heuer 1:46.068
8. Sebastian Vettel Germany Ferrari 1:46.219
9. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Honda 1:46.234
10. Daniel Ricciardo Autralian Red Bull-Tag Heuer 1:46.293
11. Fernando Alonso Spain McLaren-Honda 1:46.498
12. Romain Grosjean France Haas-Ferrari 1:46.681
13. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Ferrari 1:46.694
14. Daniil Kvyat Russia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:46.744
15. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Haas-Ferrari 1:46.830
16. Felipe Massa Brazil Williams-Mercedes 1:47.060
17. Kevin Magnussen Denmark Renault 1:47.329
18. Rio Haryanto Indonesia MRT-Mercedes 1:47.487
19. Marcus Ericsson Sweden Sauber-Ferrari 1:47.772
20. Jolyon Palmer Britain Renault 1:47.794
21. Pascal Wehrlein Germany MRT-Mercedes 1:48.018
22. Felipe Nasr Brazil Sauber-Ferrari 1:48.081
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:44.33
2. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:44.913
3. Sergio Perez Mexico Force India-Mercedes 1:45.336
4. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Mercedes 1:45.764
5. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:45.920
6. Carlos Sainz Spain Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:46.027
7. Max Verstappen Netherlands Red Bull-Tag Heuer 1:46.068
8. Sebastian Vettel Germany Ferrari 1:46.219
9. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Honda 1:46.234
10. Daniel Ricciardo Autralian Red Bull-Tag Heuer 1:46.293
11. Fernando Alonso Spain McLaren-Honda 1:46.498
12. Romain Grosjean France Haas-Ferrari 1:46.681
13. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Ferrari 1:46.694
14. Daniil Kvyat Russia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:46.744
15. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Haas-Ferrari 1:46.830
16. Felipe Massa Brazil Williams-Mercedes 1:47.060
17. Kevin Magnussen Denmark Renault 1:47.329
18. Rio Haryanto Indonesia MRT-Mercedes 1:47.487
19. Marcus Ericsson Sweden Sauber-Ferrari 1:47.772
20. Jolyon Palmer Britain Renault 1:47.794
21. Pascal Wehrlein Germany MRT-Mercedes 1:48.018
22. Felipe Nasr Brazil Sauber-Ferrari 1:48.081
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