Formula One: 2016 Season News and Discussion Thread
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I would dismiss this BS as just that, BS. Above all, MBZ wants to win the Constructor's Championship. Having a rookie in their car at the most prestigious event of the year in front of every big name poobah sponsor of the team would be catastrophic to the team's ability to 1) magnify their chances of getting maximum points, and, 2). increase sponsorship levels. There is no god damn way they're going to put Pascal in Lewis' seat to punish the latter.
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Mercedes rubbishes rumours about Hamilton - F1Today.net - Formula 1 news
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Imagine writing the insurance claim from that.
"My vintage F1 car fell 20 feet off a crane."
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from a balcony of L'Hotel Hermitage overlooking the run up to Casino Square, 1 year ago today:
last 14 laps and Lewis has been called in while Rosberg and Vettel have not. Game over for Lewis.
last 14 laps and Lewis has been called in while Rosberg and Vettel have not. Game over for Lewis.
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I can see another Mercedes tangle into turn one.
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My schadenfreude would be epic.
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I can see an RBR and an MBZ tangling at Ste. Devote lap 1
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Monaco FP1:
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:15.537
2. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:15.638
3. Sebastian Vettel Germany Ferrari 1:15.956
4. Daniel Ricciardo Autralian Red Bull-Tag Heuer 1:16.308
5. Max Verstappen Netherlands Red Bull-Tag Heuer 1:16.371
6. Daniil Kvyat Russia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:16.426
7. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:16.560
8. Sergio Perez Mexico Force India-Mercedes 1:16.697
9. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Ferrari 1:16.912
10. Carlos Sainz Spain Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:17.130
11. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Mercedes 1:17.562
12. Romain Grosjean France Haas-Ferrari 1:17.599
13. Fernando Alonso Spain McLaren-Honda 1:17.838
14. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Haas-Ferrari 1:17.909
15. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Honda 1:17.920
16. Felipe Nasr Brazil Sauber-Ferrari 1:18.187
17. Kevin Magnussen Denmark Renault 1:18.274
18. Marcus Ericsson Sweden Sauber-Ferrari 1:18.301
19. Felipe Massa Brazil Williams-Mercedes 1:18.746
20. Jolyon Palmer Britain Renault 1:18.871
21. Rio Haryanto Indonesia MRT-Mercedes 1:20.528
22. Pascal Wehrlein Germany MRT-Mercedes 1:20.868
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:15.537
2. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:15.638
3. Sebastian Vettel Germany Ferrari 1:15.956
4. Daniel Ricciardo Autralian Red Bull-Tag Heuer 1:16.308
5. Max Verstappen Netherlands Red Bull-Tag Heuer 1:16.371
6. Daniil Kvyat Russia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:16.426
7. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:16.560
8. Sergio Perez Mexico Force India-Mercedes 1:16.697
9. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Ferrari 1:16.912
10. Carlos Sainz Spain Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:17.130
11. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Mercedes 1:17.562
12. Romain Grosjean France Haas-Ferrari 1:17.599
13. Fernando Alonso Spain McLaren-Honda 1:17.838
14. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Haas-Ferrari 1:17.909
15. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Honda 1:17.920
16. Felipe Nasr Brazil Sauber-Ferrari 1:18.187
17. Kevin Magnussen Denmark Renault 1:18.274
18. Marcus Ericsson Sweden Sauber-Ferrari 1:18.301
19. Felipe Massa Brazil Williams-Mercedes 1:18.746
20. Jolyon Palmer Britain Renault 1:18.871
21. Rio Haryanto Indonesia MRT-Mercedes 1:20.528
22. Pascal Wehrlein Germany MRT-Mercedes 1:20.868
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Monaco FP2:
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Daniel Ricciardo Autralian Red Bull-Tag Heuer 1:14.607
2. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:15.213
3. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:15.506
4. Max Verstappen Netherlands Red Bull-Tag Heuer 1:15.571
5. Daniil Kvyat Russia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:15.815
6. Carlos Sainz Spain Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:15.981
7. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Ferrari 1:16.040
8. Sergio Perez Mexico Force India-Mercedes 1:16.120
9. Sebastian Vettel Germany Ferrari 1:16.269
10. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Honda 1:16.325
11. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:16.487
12. Fernando Alonso Spain McLaren-Honda 1:16.723
13. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Haas-Ferrari 1:16.782
14. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Mercedes 1:16.849
15. Romain Grosjean France Haas-Ferrari 1:16.874
16. Felipe Massa Brazil Williams-Mercedes 1:17.286
17. Kevin Magnussen Denmark Renault 1:17.530
18. Marcus Ericsson Sweden Sauber-Ferrari 1:17.562
19. Jolyon Palmer Britain Renault 1:17.761
20. Felipe Nasr Brazil Sauber-Ferrari 1:17.999
21. Rio Haryanto Indonesia MRT-Mercedes 1:18.647
22. Pascal Wehrlein Germany MRT-Mercedes 1:18.814
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Daniel Ricciardo Autralian Red Bull-Tag Heuer 1:14.607
2. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:15.213
3. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:15.506
4. Max Verstappen Netherlands Red Bull-Tag Heuer 1:15.571
5. Daniil Kvyat Russia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:15.815
6. Carlos Sainz Spain Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:15.981
7. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Ferrari 1:16.040
8. Sergio Perez Mexico Force India-Mercedes 1:16.120
9. Sebastian Vettel Germany Ferrari 1:16.269
10. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Honda 1:16.325
11. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:16.487
12. Fernando Alonso Spain McLaren-Honda 1:16.723
13. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Haas-Ferrari 1:16.782
14. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Mercedes 1:16.849
15. Romain Grosjean France Haas-Ferrari 1:16.874
16. Felipe Massa Brazil Williams-Mercedes 1:17.286
17. Kevin Magnussen Denmark Renault 1:17.530
18. Marcus Ericsson Sweden Sauber-Ferrari 1:17.562
19. Jolyon Palmer Britain Renault 1:17.761
20. Felipe Nasr Brazil Sauber-Ferrari 1:17.999
21. Rio Haryanto Indonesia MRT-Mercedes 1:18.647
22. Pascal Wehrlein Germany MRT-Mercedes 1:18.814
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Wow, maybe that new upgraded TAG is the real deal. Does the factory Renaults have the same upgraded PU?
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^ I think I read that Magnussen is getting the upgrade, too.
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Ricciardo seems to have made the most of it, putting it on P1 in FP2.
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That's awesome. Wife would kill me though.
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In the late 80's and IIRC early 90's F1 cars minumum weight was 500kg dry (no fuel or driver) or ~1100lb.
Although the new weight limit does include the driver (~60-70kg).
Still I miss the 90's when the F1 cars were lighter and more agile in handling.
Although the new weight limit does include the driver (~60-70kg).
Still I miss the 90's when the F1 cars were lighter and more agile in handling.
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Dead link Chief. But that is
Agreed with the rest. for me if I tried that.
Agreed with the rest. for me if I tried that.
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https://www.formula1.com/content/fom...017-tyres.html
Formula One tyre suppliers Pirelli have presented their new tyres in 2017 size in Monte Carlo. As part of dramatic rule changes for next season, aimed at cutting lap times by around four seconds, tyres will be 25 percent wider than the current specification.
The front tyre, currently 245mm wide, will increase to 305mm, while the rear will grow from 325mm to 405mm. So the new sizes for slick tyres will be 305/670-13 at the front and 405/670-13 at the rear (the total diameter will go from the current 660mm to 670mm). Wheel rim diameter remains unchanged at 13 inches.
This is a significant technical change that will also have an effect on the balance and aesthetics of the cars that will compete next year.
Testing with tyres in the 2017 sizes, using cars modified to accommodate them, will start in early August, according to a programme that has been agreed with the participating teams.
Formula One tyre suppliers Pirelli have presented their new tyres in 2017 size in Monte Carlo. As part of dramatic rule changes for next season, aimed at cutting lap times by around four seconds, tyres will be 25 percent wider than the current specification.
The front tyre, currently 245mm wide, will increase to 305mm, while the rear will grow from 325mm to 405mm. So the new sizes for slick tyres will be 305/670-13 at the front and 405/670-13 at the rear (the total diameter will go from the current 660mm to 670mm). Wheel rim diameter remains unchanged at 13 inches.
This is a significant technical change that will also have an effect on the balance and aesthetics of the cars that will compete next year.
Testing with tyres in the 2017 sizes, using cars modified to accommodate them, will start in early August, according to a programme that has been agreed with the participating teams.
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Ferrari will have their 2017 car ready for the new tire test as well MBZ. So far they are the only 2 teams that have indicated their readiness. Here's the new rear tire (old school)
Pirelli reveals 2017 Formula 1 tyres: Are they #Fit4F1? // F1 News // James Allen on F1 ? The official James Allen website on F1
Pirelli reveals 2017 Formula 1 tyres: Are they #Fit4F1? // F1 News // James Allen on F1 ? The official James Allen website on F1
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For reference sake, here are IIRC the F1 rear tires widths from the 70's onward
mid-late 1970's 23" or ~580mm
1980's 18" or 460mm
1993 15" or 380mm
So glad to see more mechanic grip coming back into F1.
mid-late 1970's 23" or ~580mm
1980's 18" or 460mm
1993 15" or 380mm
So glad to see more mechanic grip coming back into F1.
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I'll be anxious to see if the racing gets better or worse (passing or no passing). If a trailing car can be right on the gear box of the car in front without trashing its tires, then I'm all for it.
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huh?
F1 selects Halo cockpit protection over Aeroscreen for 2017 | FOX Sports
Red Bull's 'aeroscreen' design could be an alternative, but is behind in development
F1 selects Halo cockpit protection over Aeroscreen for 2017 | FOX Sports
Red Bull's 'aeroscreen' design could be an alternative, but is behind in development
F1 cars will reportedly be fitted with a further development of the Halo cockpit protection system in 2017.
Germany's Auto Motor und Sport said the decision was taken by the FIA as well as team technical directors during a five-hour meeting at Monaco's Novotel hotel on Friday.
The decision to definitely push ahead with a controversial covering for the premier open-cockpit formula followed a scary incident in Thursday practice, when a flying metal drain cover was hit by Jenson Button's car.
"We must make sure that the risk for all of us (drivers) is reduced to the minimum possible," fellow F1 veteran Fernando Alonso told RTL broadcaster.
The 2017 Halo will in fact be a development of the black carbon version seen on the Ferrari earlier this year, in stylized titanium and possible to open via a hinge.
But it is believed the Red Bull-devised Aeroscreen - favored by many in the pitlane - is still in the running to replace the halo for 2018 and beyond.
Germany's Auto Motor und Sport said the decision was taken by the FIA as well as team technical directors during a five-hour meeting at Monaco's Novotel hotel on Friday.
The decision to definitely push ahead with a controversial covering for the premier open-cockpit formula followed a scary incident in Thursday practice, when a flying metal drain cover was hit by Jenson Button's car.
"We must make sure that the risk for all of us (drivers) is reduced to the minimum possible," fellow F1 veteran Fernando Alonso told RTL broadcaster.
The 2017 Halo will in fact be a development of the black carbon version seen on the Ferrari earlier this year, in stylized titanium and possible to open via a hinge.
But it is believed the Red Bull-devised Aeroscreen - favored by many in the pitlane - is still in the running to replace the halo for 2018 and beyond.
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couldn't have hated that start more if I tried
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I hate the Monaco GP so much.
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I mean, I'd love to go for the party and the environment... but that "race". Year after year, I find it to be the most boring event on the calendar.
And this year was just tragic for 2nd.
Although, I did find it cute to see that Lewis seems to have found a new high profile songstress girlfriend to travel with him to races. And he's back to sounding like an Instagram post in his interviews, #Blessed #SorryNotSorry.
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Every year there is drama at Monaco, whether it's Schu "parking" his car at Rascasse during Q3, or Senna smacking the wall at Portier and losing the race, or Panis winning from way back in the grid-that's what makes Monaco, Monaco.
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You know the pit gaffe by Red Bull wasn't the first time they did that at Monoco. A few years back they pitted Webber and when Vettel came in they had a mismatched set of tires and had to scramble to correct the error. Back then they were so dominate it didn't matter tho
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I don't understand WTF RBR was doing. 1.5 laps before Daniel pitted and found no tires waiting for him, Steve Matchett said "there's a flurry of activity in the Red Bull garages directly across from us, they must be getting tires ready for Ricciardo" or something to that effect. That gave RBR no less than ~2:30 to be ready and they blew it.
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Ricciardo is probably thinking about switching teams now. Lost two straight races because the team messed up. Too bad for him, there aren't too many other choices.
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^^Biebs being with Hamilton is why you don't see pics of him riding around Monaco with the Prince in a 300SL Gullwing (like Nico).
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