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Old 05-02-2014, 11:03 PM
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So I literally have a whole 03 CL-S with a manual drive-train minus the frame. I'm about to start swapping it into an auto 01 CL-S. I've been told that you have to remove the auto one by unbolting the sub-frame and struts and just lifting the whole car up. I don't have equipment that beefy, so I'm wondering if you had any trouble removing the auto drive-train as a whole unit from the hood? I've been told that the manual can go in and out no problem, but since the auto is larger I'm concerned. If you remember, I'd appreciate it. PS: I know I'm digging up an old thread.
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Start your own thread, and I can answer all your questions.
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Originally Posted by crustyneon
So I literally have a whole 03 CL-S with a manual drive-train minus the frame. I'm about to start swapping it into an auto 01 CL-S. I've been told that you have to remove the auto one by unbolting the sub-frame and struts and just lifting the whole car up. I don't have equipment that beefy, so I'm wondering if you had any trouble removing the auto drive-train as a whole unit from the hood? I've been told that the manual can go in and out no problem, but since the auto is larger I'm concerned. If you remember, I'd appreciate it. PS: I know I'm digging up an old thread.
Yea you can remove the transmission from out the hood no problem, but you will need a cherry picker. just make sure everything is unbolted, all hoses and lines disconnected so there's no play when you go to lift it out. you just have to angle it and adjust as you go as in tilting the motor side down towards the side motor mount so the transmission can clear the subframe and then yea just lift it out. only small issues I remember were that things I thought were unplugged and unbolted weren't, so I just had to adjust as I would go when it came to lifting it out. and yes, manual transmission is a piece of cake to drop in cause its much smaller than the auto. hope that helps. any questions feel free to pm me or Karan, he was a great help along with many others when it came to this swap.
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Old 05-03-2014, 03:36 PM
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Thanks guys! I'm about to order a new clutch, flywheel, engine mounts, etc... and get this swap going.
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I have pulled my motor and trans out the top every time i have removed it. Just stand your hood straight up.


Originally Posted by fsttyms1
A little tip for you guys, The hood will stand straight up and give you much more light and room to work. Just pop the hood struts off the mounts on the hood. Take the drivers side hood strut mount and unscrew it and look on the hood about 6" down and over a little, there is a threaded spot for it, thread it in a little bit and hook the hood strut back to it to hold the hood open.

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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
I have pulled my motor and trans out the top every time i have removed it. Just stand your hood straight up.
this! i actually removed the entire hood when i did the swap and made it easier on myself haha
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this! i actually removed the entire hood when i did the swap and made it easier on myself haha
That works as well, especially since how easy it is to realign the hoods on these cars.
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I was scrolling through threads and noticed its officially been 3 years since yesterday I started this swap and have enjoyed everyday driving this car since! haven't had any transmission problems since. I can say down the road the swap was definitely a great investment and worth it for those who plan on doing it. crazy to look back and see how far it has come
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very "Inspire"-ing build for sure man! I must admit, I've probably read through your build along with everyone else's like 7 times all the way lol. I'm now finally posting stuff because my 99TL is slipping like no other. AND I've begun ordering parts! Found a cls trans with roughly 60k on it for $800! But long story short, would it matter what year ecu i get? I never found a clear answer for that
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Originally Posted by dannysayaseng
very "Inspire"-ing build for sure man! I must admit, I've probably read through your build along with everyone else's like 7 times all the way lol. I'm now finally posting stuff because my 99TL is slipping like no other. AND I've begun ordering parts! Found a cls trans with roughly 60k on it for $800! But long story short, would it matter what year ecu i get? I never found a clear answer for that
Good stuff man glad I could be an inspiration to you! I tried to make it as detailed as possible but it's tough considering every little detail there is haha but yea you need the 03 cls6 ecu if you are doing the true manual swap which means all wire harnesses from the 03cls6. Are you swapping motors too or just the transmission?
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Old 10-23-2014, 07:16 PM
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i'm actually just switching out the tranny itself and would more than likely swap out for an a2 in the future once i $tablized with money lol. i can barely find any ecu's or a module anywhere and i just wanted to find a clear answer. thanks man!
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Originally Posted by dannysayaseng
i'm actually just switching out the tranny itself and would more than likely swap out for an a2 in the future once i $tablized with money lol. i can barely find any ecu's or a module anywhere and i just wanted to find a clear answer. thanks man!
Okay I see. Yea Richie module are tough to get nowadays I think it's easier to find the ecu. There was one on here a few months back I saw for sale in the BM, but I'm not sure if they sold it already. Otherwise, check online but they are pretty tough to find. But yea man no problem I'll keep an eye out for you!
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Awesome work, wish I would have seen this tread a while back
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Awesome work, wish I would have seen this tread a while back
Thanks man, yea just let me know if you have anymore questions or ways I can help, I'd be glad to! Good luck on yours!

P.S. This build is now reaching 153k miles and other than a few IACV problems along the way she's still running great 3 and a half years later!
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Many months later and I finally started my build on 03/13/15! Main struggle was the input shaft alignment when connecting the 6mt bell housing to the block. Would've been done way ahead of time but auto part stores apparently don't know what part is what so I'm forced to wait on ONE LAST part: slave cylinder. The TL is up and running, just waiting on the part to arrive home! Thanks Mugen for your thread along with many others. I'll post a thread later on in the week.
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And I also got an EMS series 2 from AEM.... lots in store after this swap alone!
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Originally Posted by dannysayaseng
Many months later and I finally started my build on 03/13/15! Main struggle was the input shaft alignment when connecting the 6mt bell housing to the block. Would've been done way ahead of time but auto part stores apparently don't know what part is what so I'm forced to wait on ONE LAST part: slave cylinder. The TL is up and running, just waiting on the part to arrive home! Thanks Mugen for your thread along with many others. I'll post a thread later on in the week.
Awesome man it's always great to hear of other successful swaps! Will be excited to read your thread. I know there's so much hard work and labor that go into these things but the result is worth it.

I've been trying to get this thread into the stickies with all the other 6 speed threads for the longest time maybe Kris you can help me out hehehehe anyways keep us updated man!
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just went through this whole thread...very interesting indeed!!! what an AMAZING set of skills you have my dude!! awesome TL...you should be extremely proud
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Originally Posted by Oh Sickest TL
just went through this whole thread...very interesting indeed!!! what an AMAZING set of skills you have my dude!! awesome TL...you should be extremely proud
Thank you for the kind words! It was definitely a journey and couldn't have completed it without the help of all the good people and 6 speed swappers before me of AcuraZine
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This thread is giving Teo a big head haha
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This thread is giving Teo a big head haha
My heads been big Gary, but my work ethic is much bigger
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Originally Posted by mugenspire
what specifically are you running into electrical problem wise? do you have the service manual for the cl? that helps a lot and helped me figure out most of my problems. just pm me if you have more specific questions and maybe i could help you out
im getting ready to do this swap in the next few days my self and could possibly need some help and or tips down the line if you have some spare time to help
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Originally Posted by mugenspire
ok so i have really bad news for the car.


i blew a head gasket because of the coolant levels when i started the motor and started to take it home. i hadnt noticed the radiator wasnt filled with coolant and so it started smoking when i was driving home. i pulled over and let it cool off so it wouldnt get too hot. unfortunately it was too late and i had it brought into a shop so they could run a compression test and figure out what the problem was. turns out the head gasket is blown. it was so bad that the motor got so hot i couldnt even touch the dipstick because it was blazing hot. so now i have two options from here.

1. rebuild the head gasket and keep original motor which i was quoted 2100$ to fix which is so sad to think about because i just got the car running and spent so much money on it.

2. i have a guy who would sell me a spare type s engine from an 02 TL-S for 500$ but its an automatic motor and I'd have to take the 6 spd parts from the motor i have now and put it in the 02 motor and then pull the other motor and swap in the new one. only thing is i dont have the time or place to work on it and do the work myself so i was going to get a quote for labor on this option as well and see how they weigh out.

im really stuck at this point and i feel like giving up and have lost lots of motivation to keep working on the car. but ive come so far i dont want to just give up now after everything so i dont know guys what do you think?

just grab the spare and swap the 6 speed stuff over
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I plan on doing this to my 03 TLS as i have a 03CLS that is in bad shape but great powertrain. Will hopefully make my own thread. This thread and others will help me a lot. Thanks!
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