Formula One: 2013 Season News and Discussion Thread **Brazil Grand Prix page 9**
04-05-2013, 07:18 AM
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Argghh, thought the next race was this week. Another week of waiting...
04-05-2013, 10:30 AM
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04-09-2013, 07:44 AM
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Yea, i would feel this way if it was leading to them winning every race, or allowing them to run a different car or set of rules on the track. But they arent. It isnt giving them any special advantage on race day.
Special respect maybe, but special treatment? It's not sporting if one side has an unfair advantage than the other through means other than merit. This is one of the reason why I hate Ferrari.
04-10-2013, 10:45 PM
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In the wake of the 'Multi-21' affair, Red Bull has abolished team orders.
"There will be no more team orders by us," the energy drink company's motor sport director Helmut Marko told Germany's Sport Bild on Wednesday.
Sebastian Vettel ignored the team's instruction to stay behind leader Mark Webber in Malaysia recently, sparking the controversy.
The saga left team owner Dietrich Mateschitz "very unhappy," Marko admitted.
Austrian Marko also echoed billionaire Mateschitz's recent claim that Kimi Raikkonen is a candidate to drive for the reigning champions next year.
"Kimi Raikkonen is someone who is on our list (of candidates) for next year," confirmed Marko.
Australian Webber's current contract runs out at the end of 2013.
The 36-year-old has been linked with a move to Porsche's 2014 Le Mans prototype project.
"There will be no more team orders by us," the energy drink company's motor sport director Helmut Marko told Germany's Sport Bild on Wednesday.
Sebastian Vettel ignored the team's instruction to stay behind leader Mark Webber in Malaysia recently, sparking the controversy.
The saga left team owner Dietrich Mateschitz "very unhappy," Marko admitted.
Austrian Marko also echoed billionaire Mateschitz's recent claim that Kimi Raikkonen is a candidate to drive for the reigning champions next year.
"Kimi Raikkonen is someone who is on our list (of candidates) for next year," confirmed Marko.
Australian Webber's current contract runs out at the end of 2013.
The 36-year-old has been linked with a move to Porsche's 2014 Le Mans prototype project.
04-11-2013, 09:04 AM
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In the early 2000's the Bridgestone tires were made specifically for Ferrari and Schumachers driving style, some of the FIA by-laws prohibit specifically made tires but Bridgestone always took the input from other teams and essentially ignored it. The other competitive teams used Michelin.
But what annoyed me was Ferrari claiming the wide front Michelin's were illegal even though they FIA ruled them legal for two season. Then Ferrari had Bridgestone copy the tire size and made their own "illegal" legal tire.
1979 seasone were FIA had point scoring rules that again favored Ferrari so Scheckner won the WDC. Just couple examples, but there were a few others that escape me were Ferrari got preferential treatment.
04-13-2013, 06:57 AM
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POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:34.484
2. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:34.761
3. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:34.788
4. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:34.861
5. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:34.933
6. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:35.364
7. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:35.998
8. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 2:05.673
9. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault No Time
10. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari No Time
Q2
11. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:36.287
12. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1:36.314
13. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:36.405
14. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:36.679
15. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:37.139
16. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:37.199
Q1
17. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:37.769
18. Esteban Gurierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:37.990
19. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Cosworth 1:38.780
20. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Cosworth 1:39.537
21. Charles Pic France Caterham-Renault 1:39.614
22. Giedo van der Garde Netherlands Caterham-Renault 1:39.660
1. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:34.484
2. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:34.761
3. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:34.788
4. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:34.861
5. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:34.933
6. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:35.364
7. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:35.998
8. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 2:05.673
9. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault No Time
10. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari No Time
Q2
11. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:36.287
12. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1:36.314
13. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:36.405
14. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:36.679
15. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:37.139
16. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:37.199
Q1
17. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:37.769
18. Esteban Gurierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:37.990
19. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Cosworth 1:38.780
20. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Cosworth 1:39.537
21. Charles Pic France Caterham-Renault 1:39.614
22. Giedo van der Garde Netherlands Caterham-Renault 1:39.660
04-13-2013, 06:57 AM
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Shanghai qualifying
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:34.484
2. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:34.761
3. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:34.788
4. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:34.861
5. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:34.933
6. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:35.364
7. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:35.998
8. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 2:05.673
9. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault No Time
10. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari No Time
Q2
11. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:36.287
12. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1:36.314
13. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:36.405
14. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:36.679
15. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:37.139
16. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:37.199
Q1
17. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:37.769
18. Esteban Gurierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:37.990
19. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Cosworth 1:38.780
20. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Cosworth 1:39.537
21. Charles Pic France Caterham-Renault 1:39.614
22. Giedo van der Garde Netherlands Caterham-Renault 1:39.660
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:34.484
2. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:34.761
3. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:34.788
4. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:34.861
5. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:34.933
6. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:35.364
7. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:35.998
8. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 2:05.673
9. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault No Time
10. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari No Time
Q2
11. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:36.287
12. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1:36.314
13. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:36.405
14. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:36.679
15. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:37.139
16. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:37.199
Q1
17. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:37.769
18. Esteban Gurierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:37.990
19. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Cosworth 1:38.780
20. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Cosworth 1:39.537
21. Charles Pic France Caterham-Renault 1:39.614
22. Giedo van der Garde Netherlands Caterham-Renault 1:39.660
04-13-2013, 06:59 AM
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Interesting strategy by Vettel and Button to not put a flying lap in Q3.
04-13-2013, 11:28 AM
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Is their plan to have sets of fresh rubber for the race, because they are concerned about tire degradation?
Didn't Button try that at one of the races last year, with good result?
Didn't Button try that at one of the races last year, with good result?
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04-14-2013, 02:25 PM
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Great race.
04-14-2013, 07:22 PM
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awesome race. Damn vettel caught up really quick at the end. Glad he didnt pass hamilton though!
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04-14-2013, 10:44 PM
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Yep, fantastic race. Just finished watching it with my brother-in-law. I got him hooked!
04-15-2013, 01:37 AM
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also either hamilton or mercedes chassis needs to be better with tires. Probably both. Their tires went out too quick. He lost pace very quickly at the end when looking at Kimi, as he was catching him.
04-15-2013, 11:15 AM
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04-16-2013, 06:39 PM
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Yes, awesome race.
04-17-2013, 08:39 PM
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says "hello to my TLX".
This season has been great all around. A little of everything in each race - team strategies,drama, tire management, mechanical and pit failures and a few crashes here and there. I like!
Props to Alonso and Ferrari on the big W. On to Bahrain!
Props to Alonso and Ferrari on the big W. On to Bahrain!
04-17-2013, 08:43 PM
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Fingers crossed for no civil unrest in Bahrain this weekend 
04-18-2013, 05:43 AM
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You'd think people wouldn't have the balls to be uncivil in a society that tolerates very little digression.
04-18-2013, 06:24 AM
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If interested, there's a show on called "F1 36" on NBCSp Hd with behind the scenes footage for 36 hours with Vettel tomorrow, 2:30 a.m.-3.
04-18-2013, 09:53 PM
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04-18-2013, 11:12 PM
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Looks like there is unrest,...
http://news.yahoo.com/clashes-flare-...2897--spt.html
MANAMA, Bahrain (AP) — Groups protesting Bahrain's Formula One race have put up makeshift roadblocks and barricades of burning tires during clashes with security forces in the violence-wracked Gulf nation.
The demonstrations on Thursday were mostly isolated to anti-government hotbed areas, however, and unlikely to disrupt preparations for Sunday's race, which is the premier international event in the kingdom.
Anti-government groups have stepped up protests against the race in attempts to embarrass authorities. Rights group, including Amnesty International, have criticized Bahrain's arrests and other security crackdowns.
The latest clashes were mostly in Shiite districts that are often scenes of unrest. Graffiti on walls said: "No F1. Don't race on our blood."
Bahrain has faced more than two years of violence between the Sunni-led government and majority Shiites seeking a greater political voice.
and video,.........
http://www.dpccars.com/car-videos-13...Protestors.htm
http://news.yahoo.com/clashes-flare-...2897--spt.html
MANAMA, Bahrain (AP) — Groups protesting Bahrain's Formula One race have put up makeshift roadblocks and barricades of burning tires during clashes with security forces in the violence-wracked Gulf nation.
The demonstrations on Thursday were mostly isolated to anti-government hotbed areas, however, and unlikely to disrupt preparations for Sunday's race, which is the premier international event in the kingdom.
Anti-government groups have stepped up protests against the race in attempts to embarrass authorities. Rights group, including Amnesty International, have criticized Bahrain's arrests and other security crackdowns.
The latest clashes were mostly in Shiite districts that are often scenes of unrest. Graffiti on walls said: "No F1. Don't race on our blood."
Bahrain has faced more than two years of violence between the Sunni-led government and majority Shiites seeking a greater political voice.
and video,.........
http://www.dpccars.com/car-videos-13...Protestors.htm
04-19-2013, 06:25 AM
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04-19-2013, 07:10 AM
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04-19-2013, 07:11 AM
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Bahrain FP1:
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:34.487
2. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:34.564
3. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:34.621
4. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:34.790
5. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:34.949
6. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:35.069
7. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:35.101
8. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:35.119
9. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:35.345
10. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:35.611
11. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1:35.640
12. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:35.783
13. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:35.792
14. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:36.014
15. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:36.485
16. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:36.498
17. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:35.755
18. Esteban Gurierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:37.214
19. Charles Pic France Caterham-Renault 1:37.850
20. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Caterham-Renault 1:38.401
21. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Cosworth 1:39.445
22. Rodolfo Gonzalez Venezuela Marussia-Cosworth 1:40.215
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:34.487
2. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:34.564
3. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:34.621
4. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:34.790
5. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:34.949
6. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:35.069
7. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:35.101
8. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:35.119
9. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:35.345
10. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:35.611
11. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1:35.640
12. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:35.783
13. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:35.792
14. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:36.014
15. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:36.485
16. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:36.498
17. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:35.755
18. Esteban Gurierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:37.214
19. Charles Pic France Caterham-Renault 1:37.850
20. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Caterham-Renault 1:38.401
21. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Cosworth 1:39.445
22. Rodolfo Gonzalez Venezuela Marussia-Cosworth 1:40.215
04-19-2013, 05:25 PM
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FP2:
1. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:34.154
2. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:34.184
3. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:34.282
4. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:34.310
5. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:34.543
6. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:34.552
7. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:34.631
8. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:34.666
9. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:34.931
10. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:34.976
11. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:35.356
12. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:35.506
13. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1:35.589
14. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:35.761
15. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:33.613
16. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:36.279
17. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:36.579
18. Esteban Gurierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:36.616
19. Charles Pic France Caterham-Renault 1:37.061
20. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Cosworth 1:37.313
21. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Cosworth 1:37.363
22. Giedo van der Garde Netherlands Caterham-Renault 1:37.970
1. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:34.154
2. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:34.184
3. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:34.282
4. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:34.310
5. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:34.543
6. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:34.552
7. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:34.631
8. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:34.666
9. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:34.931
10. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:34.976
11. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:35.356
12. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:35.506
13. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1:35.589
14. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:35.761
15. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:33.613
16. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:36.279
17. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:36.579
18. Esteban Gurierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:36.616
19. Charles Pic France Caterham-Renault 1:37.061
20. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Cosworth 1:37.313
21. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Cosworth 1:37.363
22. Giedo van der Garde Netherlands Caterham-Renault 1:37.970
04-19-2013, 07:21 PM
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I watch the practice races and qualifiers on Sky 
04-20-2013, 05:51 AM
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I'm happy for you 
04-22-2013, 01:08 PM
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pretty cool vid
04-24-2013, 07:17 AM
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Great race again, Props to Alonso for scoring points with the 2 additional stops and non working DRS
04-24-2013, 09:26 AM
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fsttyms-diggin' your avi. 
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04-24-2013, 02:20 PM
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What happened to Button in Bahrain?
04-24-2013, 04:42 PM
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04-24-2013, 07:40 PM
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He did good for a little then just went bad
I'm surprised at hamilton's results. I thought Mclaren and even Webber would have had him.
I'm surprised at hamilton's results. I thought Mclaren and even Webber would have had him.
04-25-2013, 08:46 AM
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