Formula One: 2013 Season News and Discussion Thread **Brazil Grand Prix page 9**
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McLaren deny that Ron Dennis has been demoted
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula-one/22307813
Trouble in McLarenville?
Not sure about their relationship now but Dennis and Mansour Ojjehused used to be tight relationship from a business and sporting pint of view. They've worked together for 3+ decades.
Trouble in McLarenville?
Not sure about their relationship now but Dennis and Mansour Ojjehused used to be tight relationship from a business and sporting pint of view. They've worked together for 3+ decades.
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Settle it on the track, McLaren.
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Barcelona FP1:
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:25.252
2. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:25.455
3. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:25.667
4. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:26.042
5. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:26.212
6. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:26.374
7. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:26.456
8. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:26.614
9. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:26.621
10. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:26.755
11. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:26.940
12. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:27.061
13. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1:27.135
14. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:27.250
15. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:27.576
16. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Caterham-Renault 1:28.373
17. Giedo van der Garde Netherlands Caterham-Renault 1:28.600
18. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Cosworth 1:28.887
19. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:29.457
20. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:29.473
21. Rodolfo Gonzalez Venezuela Marussia-Cosworth 1:30.314
22. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes No TimeOS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:25.252
2. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:25.455
3. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:25.667
4. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:26.042
5. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:26.212
6. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:26.374
7. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:26.456
8. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:26.614
9. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:26.621
10. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:26.755
11. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:26.940
12. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:27.061
13. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1:27.135
14. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:27.250
15. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:27.576
16. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Caterham-Renault 1:28.373
17. Giedo van der Garde Netherlands Caterham-Renault 1:28.600
18. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Cosworth 1:28.887
19. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:29.457
20. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:29.473
21. Rodolfo Gonzalez Venezuela Marussia-Cosworth 1:30.314
22. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes No Time
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:25.252
2. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:25.455
3. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:25.667
4. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:26.042
5. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:26.212
6. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:26.374
7. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:26.456
8. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:26.614
9. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:26.621
10. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:26.755
11. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:26.940
12. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:27.061
13. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1:27.135
14. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:27.250
15. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:27.576
16. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Caterham-Renault 1:28.373
17. Giedo van der Garde Netherlands Caterham-Renault 1:28.600
18. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Cosworth 1:28.887
19. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:29.457
20. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:29.473
21. Rodolfo Gonzalez Venezuela Marussia-Cosworth 1:30.314
22. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes No TimeOS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:25.252
2. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:25.455
3. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:25.667
4. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:26.042
5. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:26.212
6. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:26.374
7. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:26.456
8. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:26.614
9. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:26.621
10. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:26.755
11. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:26.940
12. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:27.061
13. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1:27.135
14. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:27.250
15. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:27.576
16. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Caterham-Renault 1:28.373
17. Giedo van der Garde Netherlands Caterham-Renault 1:28.600
18. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Cosworth 1:28.887
19. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:29.457
20. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:29.473
21. Rodolfo Gonzalez Venezuela Marussia-Cosworth 1:30.314
22. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes No Time
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Barcelona FP2:
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:22.808
2. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:22.825
3. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:22.891
4. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:23.030
5. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:23.110
6. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:23.140
7. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:23.398
8. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:23.840
9. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:24.058
10. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:24.104
11. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:24.175
12. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:24.306
13. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1:24.854
14. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:24.888
15. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:25.167
16. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:25.321
17. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:25.441
18. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:25.851
19. Giedo van der Garde Netherlands Caterham-Renault 1:25.903
20. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Cosworth 1:26.078
21. Charles Pic France Caterham-Renault 1:26.930
22. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Cosworth 1:26.970
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:22.808
2. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:22.825
3. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:22.891
4. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:23.030
5. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:23.110
6. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:23.140
7. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:23.398
8. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:23.840
9. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:24.058
10. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:24.104
11. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:24.175
12. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:24.306
13. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1:24.854
14. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:24.888
15. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:25.167
16. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:25.321
17. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:25.441
18. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:25.851
19. Giedo van der Garde Netherlands Caterham-Renault 1:25.903
20. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Cosworth 1:26.078
21. Charles Pic France Caterham-Renault 1:26.930
22. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Cosworth 1:26.970
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McLaren in big trouble again.
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I said to my wife during qualifying this morning that a lot of people thought Hamilton was crazy for jumping ship to MBZ. In hindsight, it sure seems like a great decision now doesn't it?
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BTW-did anyone catch the shout out from Leigh Diffey to my brother when commenting on Vettel's top track to drive being Watkins? Pretty cool . . .
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I thought this was interesting. Apparently all the teams have the DRS switch on the steering wheel except for Ferrari, which has a foot operated switch (pedal).
Video at the link
http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/2013/0/1062.html
Video at the link
http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/2013/0/1062.html
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Hamilton 50 points
I was thinking the same thing recently, smart and lucky (?) move by Hamilton.
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The tyre debate goes round and round
With all but 3 having to change tires 4 times, Pirelli has screwed up the tires to make competition more of whose car and driver can best manage the tires.
http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/87...ound-And-Round
http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/87...ound-And-Round
Fernando Alonso admits it's "impossible" to follow a race, Jenson Button calls it a "right mess" while several other drivers are also not happy with the tyre situation.
Ferrari driver Alonso came from fifth on the grid to win the Spanish Grand Prix ahead of Kimi Raikkonen and Felipe Massa on Sunday, but the big debate after the race centred around the Pirellis.
Raikkonen, Mercedes' Nico Rosberg and Button were the only three drivers in the top 10 to stop three times while the rest were forced to change their tyres four times.
The general conclusion in the aftermath of the race was that four pit stops are too many for Formula One and Alonso believes it is becoming difficult to know what's going on due to the number of stops.
"I'm happy to win from whatever position to start," the Spaniard said. "Here, I think this historically has been difficult to overtake and starting off the front row was hard for the race but now with this year's degradation and this year's tyres we see the races keep changing all the time.
"Whatever car keeps the tyre alive normally is on the podium at least - or winning the race. So, happy for this.
"If it's too much confusion for the spectators? There is no doubt. I think it is impossible to follow one race now. Here it's good because you have the tower and I think you follow the race on the tower with the numbers and you see who is first, who is second. But in some other circuits, if I'm sitting in the grandstand, without any information: radio, telephone or something, you only see cars passing."
Raikkonen initially thought he could battle Alonso for the victory late in the race, but he decided not to put up much of a fight when they were side-by-side due to the tyre issue.
"It is too easy to overtake, so no point to really fight again because you cannot hold him behind," the Finn said.
Button, who came from 14th on the grid to finish eighth thanks to his three-stop strategy, was quite critical about the current situation.
"It is a right mess. The problem is that a lot of people watching will think there's a lot of overtaking [so] it's great, isn't it?" he said. "But when we're going round doing laps three seconds slower than a GP2 car did in qualifying, and only six seconds quicker than a GP3 car did in the race, there's something wrong. This is the pinnacle of motor sport.
"We shouldn't be driving round as slow as we have to to look after the tyres. It's so complicated. It is very confusing. The whole time the engineer is on the radio saying: 'The temperatures are too high or too low, you've got to go quicker in this corner, you have to go slower in this corner, to look after this tyre.'
"When I see a car behind I let it past because I'm doing a different strategy and I don't want to damage my tyres. If I block I might destroy my tyres. It's the same thing we had in China, waving each other past so we don't destroy our rubber while hoping that the guy who's overtaking will."
Ferrari driver Alonso came from fifth on the grid to win the Spanish Grand Prix ahead of Kimi Raikkonen and Felipe Massa on Sunday, but the big debate after the race centred around the Pirellis.
Raikkonen, Mercedes' Nico Rosberg and Button were the only three drivers in the top 10 to stop three times while the rest were forced to change their tyres four times.
The general conclusion in the aftermath of the race was that four pit stops are too many for Formula One and Alonso believes it is becoming difficult to know what's going on due to the number of stops.
"I'm happy to win from whatever position to start," the Spaniard said. "Here, I think this historically has been difficult to overtake and starting off the front row was hard for the race but now with this year's degradation and this year's tyres we see the races keep changing all the time.
"Whatever car keeps the tyre alive normally is on the podium at least - or winning the race. So, happy for this.
"If it's too much confusion for the spectators? There is no doubt. I think it is impossible to follow one race now. Here it's good because you have the tower and I think you follow the race on the tower with the numbers and you see who is first, who is second. But in some other circuits, if I'm sitting in the grandstand, without any information: radio, telephone or something, you only see cars passing."
Raikkonen initially thought he could battle Alonso for the victory late in the race, but he decided not to put up much of a fight when they were side-by-side due to the tyre issue.
"It is too easy to overtake, so no point to really fight again because you cannot hold him behind," the Finn said.
Button, who came from 14th on the grid to finish eighth thanks to his three-stop strategy, was quite critical about the current situation.
"It is a right mess. The problem is that a lot of people watching will think there's a lot of overtaking [so] it's great, isn't it?" he said. "But when we're going round doing laps three seconds slower than a GP2 car did in qualifying, and only six seconds quicker than a GP3 car did in the race, there's something wrong. This is the pinnacle of motor sport.
"We shouldn't be driving round as slow as we have to to look after the tyres. It's so complicated. It is very confusing. The whole time the engineer is on the radio saying: 'The temperatures are too high or too low, you've got to go quicker in this corner, you have to go slower in this corner, to look after this tyre.'
"When I see a car behind I let it past because I'm doing a different strategy and I don't want to damage my tyres. If I block I might destroy my tyres. It's the same thing we had in China, waving each other past so we don't destroy our rubber while hoping that the guy who's overtaking will."
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Drivers complaining about tires. Shocking.
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FIA sez no changes unless for safety to Pirelli
http://planetf1.com/news/3213/871945...or-Safety-Only
http://planetf1.com/news/3213/871945...or-Safety-Only
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I thought this was interesting. Apparently all the teams have the DRS switch on the steering wheel except for Ferrari, which has a foot operated switch (pedal).
Video at the link
http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/2013/0/1062.html
Video at the link
http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/2013/0/1062.html
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yeah, no need to heel and toe with the brake and loud pedal, now they can heel/toe with the brake/DRS pedal.
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Monte Carlo FP1:
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:16.195
2. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:16.282
3. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:16.380
4. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:16.394
5. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:16.469
6. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:16.993
7. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:17.020
8. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:17.129
9. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1:17.378
10. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:17.380
11. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:17.509
12. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:17.548
13. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:17.625
14. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:18.193
15. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:18.454
16. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:18.754
17. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:18.830
18. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:19.067
19. Giedo van der Garde Netherlands Caterham-Renault 1:19.203
20. Charles Pic France Caterham-Renault 1:19.438
21. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Cosworth 1:19.773
22. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Cosworth 1:20.225
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:16.195
2. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:16.282
3. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:16.380
4. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:16.394
5. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:16.469
6. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:16.993
7. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:17.020
8. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:17.129
9. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1:17.378
10. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:17.380
11. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:17.509
12. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:17.548
13. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:17.625
14. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:18.193
15. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:18.454
16. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:18.754
17. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:18.830
18. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:19.067
19. Giedo van der Garde Netherlands Caterham-Renault 1:19.203
20. Charles Pic France Caterham-Renault 1:19.438
21. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Cosworth 1:19.773
22. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Cosworth 1:20.225
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Monte Carlo FP2:
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:14.753
2. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:15.077
3. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:15.196
4. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:15.278
5. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:15.404
6. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:15.511
7. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:15.718
8. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:15.959
9. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:16.014
10. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:16.046
11. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:16.349
12. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1:16.434
13. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:16.823
14. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:16.857
15. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:16.935
16. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:17.145
17. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:17.184
18. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:17.264
19. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Cosworth 1:17.892
20. Charles Pic France Caterham-Renault 1:18.212
21. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Cosworth 1:18.784
22. Giedo van der Garde Netherlands Caterham-Renault 1:19.031
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:14.753
2. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:15.077
3. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:15.196
4. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:15.278
5. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:15.404
6. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:15.511
7. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:15.718
8. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:15.959
9. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:16.014
10. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:16.046
11. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:16.349
12. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1:16.434
13. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:16.823
14. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:16.857
15. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:16.935
16. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:17.145
17. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:17.184
18. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:17.264
19. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Cosworth 1:17.892
20. Charles Pic France Caterham-Renault 1:18.212
21. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Cosworth 1:18.784
22. Giedo van der Garde Netherlands Caterham-Renault 1:19.031
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i was there May 1st, and i got to stop foot on the track! ![Big Grin](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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Looks like the FIA is in a tough spot now. What can they do? Take away Rosberg's win? Even if they do that, the cat is out of the bag with Mercedes already having an advantage with testing. Do they let every team also get a 1000km test?
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wow they're in a big pickle
Might as well give the other teams testing. Btw, why are there such stringent rules on not testing the cars out?? Is it to not give another advantage to the top players?? Assuming they can do more in that time.
Might as well give the other teams testing. Btw, why are there such stringent rules on not testing the cars out?? Is it to not give another advantage to the top players?? Assuming they can do more in that time.
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Ferrari/McLaren/RBR budgets vs. Marussia, Catherham, Williams; do the $$$ math and see who can/cannot afford to test endlessly all season (as they used to)
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The costs were downright insane before they brought in the testing rules in place now. I remember reading an article in F1 magazine before the cost control/practice measures were brought in (this is quite a number of years ago now), and the total costs for all the teams for a season added up to like 3 or 4 billion dollars IIRC.
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so I overestimated by 2 days. Suck it! lol
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34 GPs in Montreal . . .
and I've (after this weekend) gone to all but 10 of them.
http://www.montrealgazette.com/sport...105/story.html
http://www.montrealgazette.com/sport...105/story.html
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and I've (after this weekend) gone to all but 10 of them.
http://www.montrealgazette.com/sport...105/story.html
http://www.montrealgazette.com/sport...105/story.html
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Mercedes will face an investigation from the FIA's International Tribunal regarding its recent secret tyre test with Pirelli, while Ferrari has been cleared over its test with a 2011 car.
The Mercedes test at Barcelona was referred to the stewards of the Monaco Grand Prix when Red Bull and Ferrari lodged a protest on that weekend.
The FIA had been waiting for a report from the Monaco stewards before deciding if Mercedes had a case to answer, and it has decided to pass the matter on to the International Tribunal.
The sport's governing body explained that it requested information from those involved and rival teams before coming to its conclusion.
Ferrari's own test with Pirelli, conducted at Barcelona in April with a 2011 car, was deemed not to breach the rules.
An FIA statement said: "In the light of all the replies received and in view of the information gathered during this inquiry, the president of the FIA, acting as the FIA prosecuting body, has decided:
"To close the case as regard to Scuderia Ferrari Team considering that its participation in a tyre test organised by Pirelli in Barcelona on 23-24 April 2013 using for this purpose a 2011 car is not deemed to contravene the applicable FIA rules.
"To bring the case concerning the tyre testing session carried out by Pirelli and Team Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 in Barcelona on 15-17 May 2013 before the FIA International Tribunal because it results from the inquiry that the conditions of this testing may constitute a breach of the applicable FIA rules.
"The FIA International Tribunal is called upon to make a decision in compliance with the FIA Judicial and Disciplinary Rules."
THE FULL STATEMENT FROM THE FIA
The Monaco Grand Prix Stewards raised in their report to the FIA an issue concerning a tyre testing session carried out by Pirelli with the participation of Team Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 in Barcelona on 15-17 May 2013[1].
The FIA requested clarifications from Pirelli and Team Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 in this respect.
The FIA also asked questions to Scuderia Ferrari Team, which took part in a tyre test with Pirelli in Barcelona on 23-24 April 2013.
The FIA requested all the other F1 Teams to provide the FIA with information they may have regarding any tests carried out by Pirelli during the 2013 season.
In the light of all the replies received and in view of the information gathered during this inquiry, the President of the FIA, acting as the FIA prosecuting body, has decided:
* To close the case as regard to Scuderia Ferrari Team considering that its participation in a tyre test organised by Pirelli in Barcelona on 23-24 April 2013 using for this purpose a 2011 car is not deemed to contravene the applicable FIA rules.
* To bring the case concerning the tyre testing session carried out by Pirelli and Team Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 in Barcelona on 15-17 May 2013 before the FIA International Tribunal because it results from the inquiry that the conditions of this testing may constitute a breach of the applicable FIA rules.
The FIA International Tribunal is called upon to make a decision in compliance with the FIA Judicial and Disciplinary Rules.
[1] The Stewards' report follows the protests made by Red Bull Racing and Scuderia Ferrari Team on the occasion of the Monaco Grand Prix against Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 concerning its participation in the Barcelona tests (15-17 May 2013).
The Mercedes test at Barcelona was referred to the stewards of the Monaco Grand Prix when Red Bull and Ferrari lodged a protest on that weekend.
The FIA had been waiting for a report from the Monaco stewards before deciding if Mercedes had a case to answer, and it has decided to pass the matter on to the International Tribunal.
The sport's governing body explained that it requested information from those involved and rival teams before coming to its conclusion.
Ferrari's own test with Pirelli, conducted at Barcelona in April with a 2011 car, was deemed not to breach the rules.
An FIA statement said: "In the light of all the replies received and in view of the information gathered during this inquiry, the president of the FIA, acting as the FIA prosecuting body, has decided:
"To close the case as regard to Scuderia Ferrari Team considering that its participation in a tyre test organised by Pirelli in Barcelona on 23-24 April 2013 using for this purpose a 2011 car is not deemed to contravene the applicable FIA rules.
"To bring the case concerning the tyre testing session carried out by Pirelli and Team Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 in Barcelona on 15-17 May 2013 before the FIA International Tribunal because it results from the inquiry that the conditions of this testing may constitute a breach of the applicable FIA rules.
"The FIA International Tribunal is called upon to make a decision in compliance with the FIA Judicial and Disciplinary Rules."
THE FULL STATEMENT FROM THE FIA
The Monaco Grand Prix Stewards raised in their report to the FIA an issue concerning a tyre testing session carried out by Pirelli with the participation of Team Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 in Barcelona on 15-17 May 2013[1].
The FIA requested clarifications from Pirelli and Team Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 in this respect.
The FIA also asked questions to Scuderia Ferrari Team, which took part in a tyre test with Pirelli in Barcelona on 23-24 April 2013.
The FIA requested all the other F1 Teams to provide the FIA with information they may have regarding any tests carried out by Pirelli during the 2013 season.
In the light of all the replies received and in view of the information gathered during this inquiry, the President of the FIA, acting as the FIA prosecuting body, has decided:
* To close the case as regard to Scuderia Ferrari Team considering that its participation in a tyre test organised by Pirelli in Barcelona on 23-24 April 2013 using for this purpose a 2011 car is not deemed to contravene the applicable FIA rules.
* To bring the case concerning the tyre testing session carried out by Pirelli and Team Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 in Barcelona on 15-17 May 2013 before the FIA International Tribunal because it results from the inquiry that the conditions of this testing may constitute a breach of the applicable FIA rules.
The FIA International Tribunal is called upon to make a decision in compliance with the FIA Judicial and Disciplinary Rules.
[1] The Stewards' report follows the protests made by Red Bull Racing and Scuderia Ferrari Team on the occasion of the Monaco Grand Prix against Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 concerning its participation in the Barcelona tests (15-17 May 2013).
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today's press conference, question from the floor to Nico Rosberg:
Q: (Paolo Ianieri - La Gazzetta dello Sport) Nico, if you say it was just a normal test, why were you and Lewis using anonymous helmets?
NR: Don't want to comment on that. Sorry.
Hmmm, something smells in Denmark . . . .![Why Me](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/whyme.gif)
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Q: (Paolo Ianieri - La Gazzetta dello Sport) Nico, if you say it was just a normal test, why were you and Lewis using anonymous helmets?
NR: Don't want to comment on that. Sorry.
Hmmm, something smells in Denmark . . . .
![Why Me](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/whyme.gif)
![Why Me](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/whyme.gif)
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today's press conference, question from the floor to Nico Rosberg:
Q: (Paolo Ianieri - La Gazzetta dello Sport) Nico, if you say it was just a normal test, why were you and Lewis using anonymous helmets?
NR: Don't want to comment on that. Sorry.
Hmmm, something smells in Denmark . . . .![Why Me](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/whyme.gif)
![Why Me](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/whyme.gif)
![Why Me](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/whyme.gif)
Q: (Paolo Ianieri - La Gazzetta dello Sport) Nico, if you say it was just a normal test, why were you and Lewis using anonymous helmets?
NR: Don't want to comment on that. Sorry.
Hmmm, something smells in Denmark . . . .
![Why Me](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/whyme.gif)
![Why Me](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/whyme.gif)
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Montreal FP1:
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:21.020
2. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:21.108
3. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:21.258
4. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:21.308
5. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:21.608
6. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:22.068
7. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:22.402
8. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1:22.587
9. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:23:047
10. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:23.131
11. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:23.341
12. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:23.352
13. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:23.386
14. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:23.417
15. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:23.957
16. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:25.054
17. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:25.354
18. Giedo van der Garde Netherlands Caterham-Renault 1:25.753
19. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Cosworth 1:25.821
20. Alexander Rossi United States Caterham-Renault 1:27.143
21. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:27.522
22. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Cosworth 1:29.306
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:21.020
2. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:21.108
3. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:21.258
4. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:21.308
5. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:21.608
6. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:22.068
7. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:22.402
8. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1:22.587
9. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:23:047
10. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:23.131
11. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:23.341
12. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:23.352
13. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:23.386
14. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:23.417
15. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:23.957
16. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:25.054
17. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:25.354
18. Giedo van der Garde Netherlands Caterham-Renault 1:25.753
19. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Cosworth 1:25.821
20. Alexander Rossi United States Caterham-Renault 1:27.143
21. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:27.522
22. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Cosworth 1:29.306