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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 06:34 PM
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Visa Ipo

any of you guys plan on jumping in there on day 1?
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 07:30 PM
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I will... if MA was any indication this should do quite well long-term.
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 08:02 PM
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by chinoz
I will... if MA was any indication this should do quite well long-term.
don't let MA necessarily be an indicator here. When MA ipo'ed, there was no precedent for what valuation it should trade at, ie: they were the first credit processor to go public (american express, discover, capital one all have credit risk. mastercard and visa are solely transaction processors and have no credit risk). so, it was in uncharted waters as to what valuation it should trade at.

now that we know what is deemed "acceptable valuations" for a credit processor since we know what MA trades at, V will be stuck with limited upside potential. don't get me wrong, V is gonna skyrocket its first couple of days trading. After that, however, it will settle down to par with MA's valuation in terms of PE and forward PE. I would imagine V would trade at a slightly richer multiple though simply due to the fact that they will be seen as "best of breed"

long term though, i definitely agree. both MA and V should be great long term holds as the world shifts from cash to plastic (especially international markets). all of this pending of course that Visa's financials are strong once we finally get to see them haha.

if you can get pre-IPO shares jump on it (pool money with friends and start an investment club to have a better shot at getting these shares (or, of course, have hookups at the underwriters). i'm still trying every avenue but haven't had much success yet and don't anticipate getting any at all haha
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 10:57 PM
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 11:33 PM
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i have no idea what this thread is about, do you guys mind explaining it to the noob here.
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by innocentwinky
i have no idea what this thread is about, do you guys mind explaining it to the noob here.
VISA is doing an Initial Public Offering ("IPO"), i.e. selling its stock to the public for the first time. The issue is whether to try and buy shares when the IPO occurs, on the assumption that the share price will rise afterwards, as with Mastercard when it went public.
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 07:32 AM
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Any news on the timing? I had heard Q1 but with the markets the way they are I am expecting them to hold off a bit...
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by DelawareCLS
Any news on the timing? I had heard Q1 but with the markets the way they are I am expecting them to hold off a bit...
rumored to be March 19 or 20th. Either way, it's going to be way before this summer as Visa is the official sponsor of the Beijing Olympics. It is of strategic importance for their IPO to be completed prior to then.
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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I'm thinking hard about it. Probably going to do it on Weds.
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 05:37 PM
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I heard it's sold out 10:1 already. I think only the big players will get their hands on it.
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 05:50 PM
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Hmm. Oh well.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 03:30 PM
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I am going to get in on the action...
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 10:07 AM
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I hear tomorrow is the day, correct?
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 11:29 AM
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Yep, Wednesday.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 05:48 PM
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My fucking AG Edwards (Wachovia) branch didn't get any shares allocated to it. Fucking fuckers fuckers...
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 07:24 PM
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Holy smokes!
Visa raises $17.9 billion, a record for U.S. IPO

The world's largest processor of credit and debit cards sold 406 million shares at $44 apiece to easily eclipse the previous U.S. record IPO of $10.6 billion set by AT&T Wireless eight years ago.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 08:33 PM
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Had to get in on the action a few weeks ago. My guy didn't recommend it. Oh well. Not worried about it.
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 08:32 AM
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+21 right out of the gate... going to wait a couple of days for this to settle
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 08:42 AM
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errr.. maybe I read that wrong
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 09:13 AM
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indications in the $60's still

my brother worked on the $22bn Int'l & Com. Bank of China deal last year...said it was insane
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 09:15 AM
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/visa-...125556303.html

Visa ‘Intended to Help’ Pornhub and Its Parent Company Monetize Child Porn, Judge Finds in Allowing Case to Move Forward

In a setback for Visa in a case alleging the payment processor is liable for the distribution of child pornography on Pornhub and other sites operated by parent company MindGeek, a federal judge ruled that it was reasonable to conclude that Visa knowingly facilitated the criminal activity.

On Friday, July 29, U.S. District Judge Cormac Carney of the U.S. District Court of the Central District of California issued a decision in the Fleites v. MindGeek case, denying Visa’s motion to dismiss the claim it violated California’s Unfair Competition Law — which prohibits unlawful, unfair or fraudulent business acts and practices — by processing payments for child porn. (A copy of the decision is available at this link.)

In the ruling, Carney held that the plaintiff “adequately alleged” that Visa engaged in a criminal conspiracy with MindGeek to monetize child pornography. Specifically, he wrote, “Visa knew that MindGeek’s websites were teeming with monetized child porn”; that there was a “criminal agreement to financially benefit from child porn that can be inferred from [Visa’s] decision to continue to recognize MindGeek as a merchant despite allegedly knowing that MindGeek monetized a substantial amount of child porn”; and that “the court can comfortably infer that Visa intended to help MindGeek monetize child porn” by “knowingly provid[ing] the tool used to complete the crime.”

“When MindGeek decides to monetize child porn, and Visa decides to continue to allow its payment network to be used for that goal despite knowledge of MindGeek’s monetization of child porn, it is entirely foreseeable that victims of child porn like plaintiff will suffer the harms that plaintiff alleges,” Carney wrote.

In a statement, a Visa spokesperson said: “Visa condemns sex trafficking, sexual exploitation and child sexual abuse materials as repugnant to our values and purpose as a company. This pre-trial ruling is disappointing and mischaracterizes Visa’s role and its policies and practices. Visa will not tolerate the use of our network for illegal activity. We continue to believe that Visa is an improper defendant in this case.”
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