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I had a chance to look at an Aspec with the manual at a local Acura dealer and I have to say, these are even less attractive in person than in photos and video. It's looks like nothing more than a rebadged Honda CrossTour. The black grill is very shiny very cheap looking plastic. The side profile is not appealing and gets worse towards the back of the vehicle. The C-pillar area design looks like and afterthought, like they got to the back side area of the vehicle and had to hodge podge something together. The interior is pretty nice, so there's that. The 2022 civic hatch is better looking than this as well as the 2022 SI. What a disappointment
I had a chance to look at an Aspec with the manual at a local Acura dealer and I have to say, these are even less attractive in person than in photos and video. It's looks like nothing more than a rebadged Honda CrossTour. The black grill is very shiny very cheap looking plastic. The side profile is not appealing and gets worse towards the back of the vehicle. The C-pillar area design looks like and afterthought, like they got to the back side area of the vehicle and had to hodge podge something together. The interior is pretty nice, so there's that. The 2022 civic hatch is better looking than this as well as the 2022 SI. What a disappointment
Thanks for the feedback! Sad that it did not impress you, hopefully the next generation of Integra meets your expectation. We will wait for your feedback in 2028.
He must. I also took a look at the Integra this past weekend. In my opinion it's a very attractive vehicle. Like a number of reviewers have noted I don't think photos really do the design justice. Absent the carbon fiber this is how I'd spec one if I was buying.
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He must. I also took a look at the Integra this past weekend. In my opinion it's a very attractive vehicle. Like a number of reviewers have noted I don't think photos really do the design justice. Absent the carbon fiber this is how I'd spec one if I was buying.
One person's frog is another person's princess.
It looks better in the photos than in person. Its an IXL with an afterthought hatch IMO
He must. I also took a look at the Integra this past weekend. In my opinion it's a very attractive vehicle. Like a number of reviewers have noted I don't think photos really do the design justice. Absent the carbon fiber this is how I'd spec one if I was buying.
That dealer didn't waste any time tacking on tons of aftermarket shit on at 400% markup on parts and labor. I wonder what the window sticker on this one is...My guess is $60K+
That dealer didn't waste any time tacking on tons of aftermarket shit on at 400% markup on parts and labor. I wonder what the window sticker on this one is...My guess is $60K+
Adjusted sticker was $50K. List for the ad-ons is $5,600. They showed the cost including tint at $10K. Then there were the standard bullshit charges such as paint protection and the like that added another $2,200. I chided him about marking up what is their entry level model. He didn’t take the bait, but did offer to sell me a black/black Type S that is in transit at MSRP.
Looks better than the Civic that looks like a Jetta. I suppose they could have made it look sleeker and racier, but then they'd have gimped the interior space like they did with the TLX. Nobody wants a compact-sized car with the interior space of a subcompact.
Adjusted sticker was $50K. List for the ad-ons is $5,600. They showed the cost including tint at $10K. Then there were the standard bullshit charges such as paint protection and the like that added another $2,200. I chided him about marking up what is their entry level model. He didn’t take the bait, but did offer to sell me a black/black Type S that is in transit at MSRP.
Only $50K lol...
Of course there will be clowns who pay 50, even 60 for this. Even at 37 it's a hard sell, especially the laughable 1.5 cvt without lsd. But fuck me I guess, what do I know, I still have 95 Accord in my driveway.
Only $50K lol...
Of course there will be clowns who pay 50, even 60 for this. Even at 37 it's a hard sell, especially the laughable 1.5 cvt without lsd. But fuck me I guess, what do I know, I still have 95 Accord in my driveway.
Are you also replying to this forum using your Blackberry? Lol…
I finally saw one in real life yesterday, and while I still think the car (non 6MT) ones are going to sell very well, I have to admit it doesn't look quite as good in person as in the pictures. If you get down on your knees and look at it, it looks better, but standing at eye level it looks kind of porky, especially from the rear and 3/4 view. I guess there's a reason why so many of the pictures appear to be at ground level....
I finally saw one in real life yesterday, and while I still think the car (non 6MT) ones are going to sell very well, I have to admit it doesn't look quite as good in person as in the pictures. If you get down on your knees and look at it, it looks better, but standing at eye level it looks kind of porky, especially from the rear and 3/4 view. I guess there's a reason why so many of the pictures appear to be at ground level....
I just realized that the Integra has a CVT and no upgrade engine. I never did much research into the car yet, but, damn that sucks. Only silver lining is the 6MT option.
^^ I view one auto as the same as all others, so the CVT is not a big issue for me. The 6MT is very nice, and the car is quite responsive with the manual. It's not going to win a drag race championship, but it's lots of fun to drive and handles quite well. Again, it very much reminds me of our beloved 91 LS coupe.
I've heard from others who have driven the CVT that it's actually decent (for an auto). It doesn't appear to be that much slower to 60 than the 6MT, surprisingly.
I think it looks nice. I'm getting one. Been debating whether to get a small SUV or a car for about a year (on and off) and then this option popped up and I saw it had the ELS 3D with 16 speakers and was about $10-15K less than the RDX or Lexus I eyeballed and....mama got real interested, real fast. I had tried previously to tell a couple dealers when they asked what are you looking for... (an incredible sound system), oh ok.. but what are you looking for in the car? (an incredible sound system) haha. So I watched every first look/review/test drive/thoughts video I could find and.... I put a deposit down before I'd seen one in person. Now, I've seen it and I think it's awesome. Haven't driven yet, but I feel I've seen enough just from the videos and don't anticipate when I go to pick mine up I'm gonna say the test drive sucked. Granted you guys are more into the 0-60 in under 6 seconds or whatever, but for I'd rather have music the way it was meant to sound while I'm sitting in traffic every day. And while I would love the 6 speed, the commute would sap out the fun so I'm getting automatic. I doubt I'd even get to 3rd gear before I'm back to first. Anyway, hi, I'm new here and looking forward to reading the forum and learning from you all. Cheers.
The sound system is quite good. I suspect you'll be satisfied. The car drives very well (didn't test a CVT) and is comfortable and nicely appointed/equipped. I doubt you'll drive one and say "this sucks."
What model/color did you buy? Any sense when it will be delivered?
Hi JM2020, haha, yeah I think I'm gonna be super happy. I definitely wanted the blue and had put a deposit on that with orchid interior, even though I wanted black interior but I figured well, it'll be cooler in the heat, whatever... , but later looked at more and more pics and there is just too much white with the orchid, even on the door/arm rest which seems the worst place for dirty/oily/suntan lotion, no thanks, so I cancelled that and then was in limbo, This dealer was $2K over MSRP (actually was $3K, but negotiated to 2K, even though that sales guy disappeared so who knows if they would have even honored it when the time came). Anyway, called around every semi-local place for a couple weeks and then someone said a silver/black coming in around July 10th-ish. I said, hmmm...silver???.. (I've never had silver before, sounds boring) errr... let me think about it. Looked long and hard at pics (for about 15 minutes lol).. and damn that's a nice looking car so called back and said take my money! and put a deposit down. And they're not over MSRP either! :-). So I'm getting a silver/black A-Spec w/Tech CVT, and my glorious 16 speaker eargasms. :-)
I think it looks nice. I'm getting one. Been debating whether to get a small SUV or a car for about a year (on and off) and then this option popped up and I saw it had the ELS 3D with 16 speakers and was about $10-15K less than the RDX or Lexus I eyeballed and....mama got real interested, real fast. I had tried previously to tell a couple dealers when they asked what are you looking for... (an incredible sound system), oh ok.. but what are you looking for in the car? (an incredible sound system) haha. So I watched every first look/review/test drive/thoughts video I could find and.... I put a deposit down before I'd seen one in person. Now, I've seen it and I think it's awesome. Haven't driven yet, but I feel I've seen enough just from the videos and don't anticipate when I go to pick mine up I'm gonna say the test drive sucked. Granted you guys are more into the 0-60 in under 6 seconds or whatever, but for I'd rather have music the way it was meant to sound while I'm sitting in traffic every day. And while I would love the 6 speed, the commute would sap out the fun so I'm getting automatic. I doubt I'd even get to 3rd gear before I'm back to first. Anyway, hi, I'm new here and looking forward to reading the forum and learning from you all. Cheers.
Originally Posted by JM2010 SH-AWD
The sound system is quite good. I suspect you'll be satisfied. The car drives very well (didn't test a CVT) and is comfortable and nicely appointed/equipped. I doubt you'll drive one and say "this sucks."
What model/color did you buy? Any sense when it will be delivered?
The Civic Touring's Bose system is getting great reviews and you still get built in Navi too; and the Civic hatchback looks like it may be just a bit more functional too. Point being it may be worth a look for those not dead set on an Integra.
Seems like the old ILX/Civic debate is making round two. I'm sure the Acura is probably nicer overall in terms of feel and to some, myself included, that definitely means something
I'm sure the Civic SI is also nice but I didn't even consider it because the Integra has the stereo I badly wanted. I know it has a Bose which is probably ok, but honestly my prior dream car was the CX-5, which I got, and though I'd be set for a decade but I was never blown away by the Bose audio. Disappointed even. Now I love Bose in general (headphones, speakers etc) but I don't think they make equally excellent car stereos despite the name. I only made it half way of the car payments and traded it in for an older Elantra to putt around in until I could pay some other bills and save up, so this time I'm SUPER READY for my new dream car! :-)
It will definitely feel luxurious to ME! I've been driving a 2013 Elantra for about 6 year (absolute horrible audio) and nothing but plastic and vinyl fake leather that gets molten hot in the sun. Its a great car for putting I guess and it definitely served its purpose to help me get out of debt so best decision I ever made, even if my friends thought I went insane to trade in the car I'd been dreaming about for 5 years and then say.... nah... hahahah
I finally saw an Integra at my dealer a couple of days ago when I was in for service. To me (don't kill the messenger), it's really nothing special--might as well have continued to be called the ILX. There's nothing offensive or ugly about it from the outside, but I'd say the same about the most recent iteration of the ILX. The interior was basic and not very Acura-like, but I guess I can tolerate that for an entry-level model. Since I love the Acura brand, I hope this model is a big sales success for them, but the combination of lackluster styling, uninspired engine choice, limited transmission options, and not-so-low pricing makes this car far less than compelling to me.
+1 Despite all the marketing talk and interviews with corporate brass, there's nothing "Integra" about this car other than the hatch. They could've also called the ILX an "Integra" back then (they basically implied it with the "I"), but they were just getting started with their blah-blah-X naming experiment in another attempt to reinvent themselves.
If anything, the ILX was more successful at disguising its Civic roots, but let down by a cost-cut interior and platform. They addressed those two areas with the Integra, but unfortunately went backwards on the design by keeping the Civic's upright greenhouse and front clip, which sadly gives it a hunchback look from the Crosstour instead of something sleeker like the A5 or 4-series GC (which their product planner surprisingly mentioned when asked about its design inspiration).
That said, the new name did work for the most part as it got people talking and excited about its 6MT, despite the fact that it was also offered in the ILX with an equally powerful engine, but sold dismally in the 3 years it was available. I suppose this is the perfect case study of good vs. bad marketing...
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^^ Don't know if you've driven one (or owned a legacy Integra), but I have to disagree with you on whether it's a proper holder of the "Integra" name plate. I've driven a new one extensively and owned two second-gen Integras ('90 and '91 LS models). After driving the new car, I find that it's a perfect carryover of the old Integra (not the GSR or Type R, of course). It's quick, but not overpowering, handles well, gets good mpg, has good interior utility, build quality and comfort and comes in about the same price as my old LS in 2022 dollars. These were all reasons that led us to buying our previous Integras.
Styling is always pretty subjective, but I happen to like the new car. Not quite as sleek as my 90/91 coupe models, but it now has a useable back seat and much larger hatch area. So, faster, quieter, holds more, and handles better -- all for the same price from 1991. I'd say that's a pretty good combination if the criterion is faithfulness to the old model's characteristics.
IMHO, the Integra is really good looking! I love that it has 5 doors (so practical!) and I love that it is not too big!!! If it were an EV or hybrid with SH-AWD, it would be the perfect vehicle for me :-)
+1 Despite all the marketing talk and interviews with corporate brass, there's nothing "Integra" about this car other than the hatch. They could've also called the ILX an "Integra" back then (they basically implied it with the "I"), but they were just getting started with their blah-blah-X naming experiment in another attempt to reinvent themselves.
If anything, the ILX was more successful at disguising its Civic roots, but let down by a cost-cut interior and platform. They addressed those two areas with the Integra, but unfortunately went backwards on the design by keeping the Civic's upright greenhouse and front clip, which sadly gives it a hunchback look from the Crosstour instead of something sleeker like the A5 or 4-series GC (which their product planner surprisingly mentioned when asked about its design inspiration).
That said, the new name did work for the most part as it got people talking and excited about its 6MT, despite the fact that it was also offered in the ILX with an equally powerful engine, but sold dismally in the 3 years it was available. I suppose this is the perfect case study of good vs. bad marketing...
IMHO, ILX was a better car, powertrain wise. I'd take K24 over L15 any day, not to mention 8DCT vs CVT.
^^ Don't know if you've driven one (or owned a legacy Integra), but I have to disagree with you on whether it's a proper holder of the "Integra" name plate. I've driven a new one extensively and owned two second-gen Integras ('90 and '91 LS models). After driving the new car, I find that it's a perfect carryover of the old Integra (not the GSR or Type R, of course). It's quick, but not overpowering, handles well, gets good mpg, has good interior utility, build quality and comfort and comes in about the same price as my old LS in 2022 dollars. These were all reasons that led us to buying our previous Integras.
Styling is always pretty subjective, but I happen to like the new car. Not quite as sleek as my 90/91 coupe models, but it now has a useable back seat and much larger hatch area. So, faster, quieter, holds more, and handles better -- all for the same price from 1991. I'd say that's a pretty good combination if the criterion is faithfulness to the old model's characteristics.
Never driven one, but after riding in them numerous times, I didn't care to drive or own one as they felt just as tinny and spartan as the econoboxes they were based on. However I did admire its design (in particular the 3G sedan) and suspect it could've been marketed as a 4-door coupe, but that nomenclature/trend didn't exist back then.
All that aside, I think the "quick, but not overpowering, handles well, gets good mpg, has good interior utility, build quality and comfort and comes in about the same price" attributes you described also apply to the ILX for the most part. The 2.4 models were a bit thirstier, but it did start out with a more miserly 2.0 and 1.5 hybrid. Build quality of the two were equally bad (IMO), and interior utility (or lack thereof) is also a draw when compared against the 2-door Integra's.
All in all, the fact that there has been so much hoopla about its name shows that there are at least as many people who feel its unworthy of the name as those who do...which further supports the idea that it was more of a marketing exercise than a true revival. And despite what many have said about the naysayers incorrectly comparing it with past GS-R's, Type-R's, and coupes...I don't think that's the case. We just think Acura could've aimed way higher with the powertrain/design/etc for just a bit more $, but instead they wanted to stick to their "starting around $30k" marketing and the results of that are unfortunately obvious.
Meh. a BIG meh. And one of the fave cars of my life was my 99GSR
I think I'm more of a fan of the new Integra than you are, but I agree that the GS-R (mine was a '97) was a simply incredible vehicle. Sometimes I wonder why manufacturers don't go back to proven best-sellers like that and basically reproduce them the best they can with today's crash-worthiness, pedestrian safety, and other regulations. They'd win for sure on the retro-love factor with consumers like us, plus I have to think that today's buyers would still fawn all over such timeless and eye-catching designs (inside and out).
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Never driven one, but after riding in them numerous times, I didn't care to drive or own one as they felt just as tinny and spartan as the econoboxes they were based on. However I did admire its design (in particular the 3G sedan) and suspect it could've been marketed as a 4-door coupe, but that nomenclature/trend didn't exist back then.
All that aside, I think the "quick, but not overpowering, handles well, gets good mpg, has good interior utility, build quality and comfort and comes in about the same price" attributes you described also apply to the ILX for the most part. The 2.4 models were a bit thirstier, but it did start out with a more miserly 2.0 and 1.5 hybrid. Build quality of the two were equally bad (IMO), and interior utility (or lack thereof) is also a draw when compared against the 2-door Integra's.
All in all, the fact that there has been so much hoopla about its name shows that there are at least as many people who feel its unworthy of the name as those who do...which further supports the idea that it was more of a marketing exercise than a true revival. And despite what many have said about the naysayers incorrectly comparing it with past GS-R's, Type-R's, and coupes...I don't think that's the case. We just think Acura could've aimed way higher with the powertrain/design/etc for just a bit more $, but instead they wanted to stick to their "starting around $30k" marketing and the results of that are unfortunately obvious.
I had quite a few ILX loaners and always found them promising but ultimately somewhat disappointing. (They were all autos, so that may have affected my impression to a large degree).
The new Integra, IMO, fixes those disappointments, and the current gen platform is much, much superior to that dated ILX platform (which itself was quickly scrubbed from Honda's lineup because it drew so much flack from reviewers at the time). The car handles beautifully with fulsome steering feel and good grip and manners.
I had two Gen 2 Integras, and especially for the price back then (around 17K or so, as I recall) they were fun, nice cars. The new one is better than those in every way. Some might disagree about styling, but that's pretty subjective.
If you're looking something that aims higher with the powertrain, the ITS might be for you. Combining this car's handling (even better with wider tires and double knuckle front suspension joints) with 50% more power sounds like a winner.
As much as some complain about Integra on forums like these, the car has clearly been a hit for Acura, as it owns the "premium entry" or "premium compact" or however you describe its market. People like them and are buying them in good numbers.
The 6MT is very nice, and the car is quite responsive with the manual. It's not going to win a drag race championship, but it's lots of fun to drive and handles quite well. Again, it very much reminds me of our beloved 91 LS coupe.
