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Old Nov 18, 2019 | 02:36 PM
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Thumbs down Touch Screen Navigation Lag Issue

I've mentioned it before in these forums that when I first bought this car, it's been doing this since day 1, on top of the Satellite turner recall that was completed when the TSB was released, that was a separate issue.

Here's a video showing how much lay happens intermittently, and when it's starts the only way to stop it is turn the car off to reboot the unit -> https://streamable.com/nccy5

I've done an update to the firmware and the map data, thinking it might allocate the memory better but it's didn't. It's the CAN-BUS that Honda has running too many thing and it gets bogged down. They have used an old version from passed models thinking it would be ok, but when think generation requests too much info it can't handle all the info thus giving less priority to the touch screen. Again another great Honda failure, Thx!

Now has 280,000+ KMS

I ask that everyone stay on topic!!! looks over at horseshoez

Has any1 with a 2016 A-Spec and up till they refreshed the Touch screen unit experienced this? And have they added Apple Carplay and Android Auto in the newer ILX now? would the unit plug in to a 16 or are the wire harnesses different?

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Old Dec 1, 2019 | 07:35 AM
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Why are you not using google maps or apple maps that are both better than any auto nav system. In fact car navigation as a feature is totally obsolete
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Old Dec 1, 2019 | 04:26 PM
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exactly,... I always use Waze which is the heavy version of google maps. tells you where cops, red light cameras construction etc are...The key word out of me preforming an update to this unit was firmware not the maps, as I stated I was praying it might fix the lag, but it didn't, it's all on the hardware side.

Now I want to figure out if the newer unit from the 19 will plug right in the the wire harness of the 16-18 and or whats all in involved.
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Old Dec 1, 2019 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Pir8pete
exactly,... I always use Waze which is the heavy version of google maps. tells you where cops, red light cameras construction etc are...The key word out of me preforming an update to this unit was firmware not the maps, as I stated I was praying it might fix the lag, but it didn't, it's all on the hardware side.

Now I want to figure out if the newer unit from the 19 will plug right in the the wire harness of the 16-18 and or whats all in involved.
If you use android auto you will likely need to use a usb c cable, at this point you should be using the phones hardware and not the cars. On another front and I am not trying to be smart either, people who know where they are and where they are going have no need for navigation anyway, truck drivers and delivery people excepted from this. So seriously the navigation on your phone is both faster than the car, and it sits in your hand which makes it closer to your eye than the screen in the car. So if you paid for a nav package you wasted your money, if you think you should be messing with a wiring harness over something as trivial as nav, I would rethink the idea
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Old Dec 1, 2019 | 09:22 PM
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I'm not concerned about using the GPS NAVI maps part, I'm talking about the entire unit is laggy as shown in the video in the first post! did you watch it?, (maybe I should have labelled the title better) and sometimes the only way to fix, is reboot ... I don't care to update the maps other then using it to track where I've gone to get back out of an area, set dots where I've gone. Anyways that's not the info I'm looking for bro but thx.

The info I want to know is from any1 that has changed this unit or replaced with an aftermarket knows if the wiring harness is the same as the 19+ as that unit Honda has fix the "lag" issue by giving it a more powerful cpu. If the wiring is the same or is an easy adaptive switch then i'll change my 16 unit to the 19+'s

Your points are valid and i agree but I already know all this! FYI; I drive Lyft so Waze is the best of the best! and do everything on iPhone and "jailbroken" at that, and now have 282,000+ kms on this car so any bugs / design flaws with any part of this car I will come across it more so then a reg. average owner. I have a boat load is quirky design issue that i could list out with Honda/aura, I hope are addresses in the next remake.

The benefits of Changing the unit will give me zero lag when, trying the change my music tracks, change the sat station, and sometimes not displaying the sat station name.
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Old Dec 1, 2019 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Pir8pete
I'm not concerned about using the GPS NAVI maps part, I'm talking about the entire unit is laggy as shown in the video in the first post! did you watch it?, (maybe I should have labelled the title better) and sometimes the only way to fix, is reboot ... I don't care to update the maps other then using it to track where I've gone to get back out of an area, set dots where I've gone. Anyways that's not the info I'm looking for bro but thx.

The info I want to know is from any1 that has changed this unit or replaced with an aftermarket knows if the wiring harness is the same as the 19+ as that unit Honda has fix the "lag" issue by giving it a more powerful cpu. If the wiring is the same or is an easy adaptive switch then i'll change my 16 unit to the 19+'s

Your points are valid and i agree but I already know all this! FYI; I drive Lyft so Waze is the best of the best! and do everything on iPhone and "jailbroken" at that, and now have 282,000+ kms on this car so any bugs / design flaws with any part of this car I will come across it more so then a reg. average owner. I have a boat load is quirky design issue that i could list out with Honda/aura, I hope are addresses in the next remake.

The benefits of Changing the unit will give me zero lag when, trying the change my music tracks, change the sat station, and sometimes not displaying the sat station name.
Ford sync 3 is fast as hell, as it was actually designed by Microsoft...………..
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Old Dec 2, 2019 | 10:53 AM
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I also have a 2016 with the same touch screen and it does NOT lag like yours. Mine is pretty snappy. I did get the TSB performed early on which was the one for garbage characters showing up in the preset buttons. The fix was to basically replace the entire XM unit which lives in the trunk, I think. Are you still under warranty? Your lagging is definitely not normal.

BTW, for the other folks talking about using other mapping software, the 16-18 ILX does not have AA or CP. And I think the factory nav works fine.
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Old Dec 2, 2019 | 11:08 AM
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I wish factory navigation wasn't a prerequisite for AcuraLink connected services. Otherwise, CarPlay does everything I need in terms of navigation.
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Old Dec 2, 2019 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by schen72
I also have a 2016 with the same touch screen and it does NOT lag like yours. Mine is pretty snappy. I did get the TSB performed early on which was the one for garbage characters showing up in the preset buttons. The fix was to basically replace the entire XM unit which lives in the trunk, I think. Are you still under warranty? Your lagging is definitely not normal.

BTW, for the other folks talking about using other mapping software, the 16-18 ILX does not have AA or CP. And I think the factory nav works fine.

it's there you just haven't noticed it yet, haven't used the car enough, you'll see, TSB was done way back, yes in the trunk, no warranty, too many kms, as mentioned in the first post all these points, + car was bought june of 2015 so time is long gone.

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Old Dec 2, 2019 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by saturnotaku
I wish factory navigation wasn't a prerequisite for AcuraLink connected services. Otherwise, CarPlay does everything I need in terms of navigation.
carplay is even better if your jailbroken!!!
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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Pir8pete
it's there you just haven't noticed it yet, haven't used the car enough, you'll see, TSB was done way back, yes in the trunk, no warranty, too many kms, as mentioned in the first post all these points, + car was bought june of 2015 so time is long gone.
Well, I'll keep an eye out for it. So far, changing presets seems snappy enough. That's really all I ever use the touchscreen for. When entering addresses into the factory nav, I usually just use voice, which is faster than typing on the touchscreen keyboard.
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by saturnotaku
I wish factory navigation wasn't a prerequisite for AcuraLink connected services. Otherwise, CarPlay does everything I need in terms of navigation.
bingo, in my fords I can use either sync 3 the ford system or use the android app that gets updated and improved about once a month. Car navigation is obsolite
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by FRAN WALKER
bingo, in my fords I can use either sync 3 the ford system or use the android app that gets updated and improved about once a month. Car navigation is obsolite
Well, starting with 2019 ILX the infotainment support AA and CP. However, it is still using the old generation of Acura's infotainment system. The 2019 RDX has the new generation of infotainment and it will be seen in the upcoming TLX and MDX full redesigns.
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