VR1

Looks like the 2.0 is gone..

wildeklave

Great news for ILX lovers. It needs more power to compete with the Lexus IS models. Plus the hybrid engine should be replaced with the new Accord Hybrid engine that gets better MPG with more horsepower. Now that the TSX is gone they can probably put the 6 cylinder engine in the ILX as an option for those who want a smaller car with power.

Potential for the ILX with upgraded engines:
- 4 cylinder - 189 hp with 182 torque and 24-34 mpg (maybe can be tuned for 200 hp and torque based off of the 2.5 L engine)
- 6 cylinder -278 HP with 252 Torque and 21-34 mpg (like Accord)
- hybrid -195 hp with about 140 torque and 45-50 mpg (possibly tune for more power like 210 hp but still keeping 40 mpg)

Competition:
Lexus IS
- 250 - 204 hp with 185 torque and 21-30 mpg
- 300 -306 hp with 277 torque and 19-27 mpg

Audi A3
- 1.8 L - 170 hp with 200 torque and 23-33 mpg
- 2.0 L - 220 hp with 258 torque and 24-33 mpg

BMW 3 series
- 320 - 180 hp with 184 torque and 24-36 mpg
- 328 - 240 hp with 255 torque and 23-35 mpg
- 335 - 300 hp with 300 torque and 22-32 mpg
- Hybrid - 335 hp with 330 torque and 25-33 mpg

Mercedes
- CLA250 - 208 hp with 259 torque and 26-38 mpg
- CLAAMG - 335 hp with 332 torque and 23-31 mpg

Buick Verano
- 2.4 L - 180 hp with 171 torque and 21-32 mpg
- 2.0 T - 250 hp with 260 torque and 21-30 mpg

Rocket_man

I doubt there is any way to squeeze the V6 into the ILX, nor do I think Acura would want to. I think they will leave the V6 to the TLX and RLX. I do hope that they have found a way to put the 2.4/CVT or even the 2.4/8DCT into the ILX and more trim levels. Maybe that Earth Dreams Engine for the 2.0? I was under the impression the 2.4/CVT would not fit in the ILX.

Honda recently announced that they will move ILX production to Marysville in early 2015. There are various theories why they did this. But one is that it may share more parts with the TLX including the 2.4l engine. I have no idea if that is the case. They may just be trying to free up more Civic production or re-tool for another car.

Colin

I think this was for the 2.4/5AT, I'd imagine the more compact CVT might have a shot at fitting.

x95zsk

are you nuts with the CVT??? i had 4 friends who had CVT with different manufacturer and all CVT failed at the 200,000km range.

wildeklave

If Acura can;t find a way to get an engine into the ILX that can produce similar power numbers ot the A3 and CLA250 then they will have trouble with some sales. Offering 2 gas engines (weaker 200 HP /torque and stronger 250 hp / torque) are needed to compete properly. Otherwise it will remain a nicer version of the Civic but a level below the other luxury 182 in length cars.

Pitbull11

Nothing wrong with the ILX for it's intended purpose. It's just priced to high. I leased mine for 3 years $249 per month tech package. If you total the lease payments, what I put down and the end of lease buyout, it comes to about $3k less then my cars original MSRP. If you try and lease a hot selling RDX the total of all these payments will come out a couple of grand over the original MSRP. Like with most things in a capitalist economy the market dictates the price. If you want something like a CLA 250, buy one.

StackSilverSon

I agree with this completely.

I love my ILX. Really do. I have the 2.4L and it's just the right amount of pep. I had the car detailed and had a loaner 2.0. It was miserable.

I hope this car does well. I love mine. The 6spd transmission is just butter. No competitor comes close (or even offers a MT).

pockets

atleast acura realizes this now.. 2.0 was just a stupid idea...

usdmJON

That's why the continually test the 2.0 with the turbo... because it's stupid.

VckPtl

The 2.0 isn't that bad. I've done a 0-60 with paddle shifters, and it surprisingly beats my expectations. It's got enough pop to fit the everyday driver.

If you've want power and thrill, the ilx was never for you to begin with. If you want a decent entry-level luxury car, along with a neat look, the ilx may be for you. Get over it..

Pitbull11

Great observation. I agree, mine just has too much road noise. I know, I did not test drive it long enough. I got excited about the cheap lease price. Never again. If a dealer does not want to give me a car to drive for a couple of hours I won't buy the car.

usdmJON

Yessss

Rocket_man

No x95zsk.... I'm not 'nuts.' Honda has a significant investment in their new CVT transmissions on the 2.4L Accord and now the 2014 Civic. It only makes sense that it could find its way to Acura. I actually expected it in the TLX and was surprised by the 8DCT. But there is probably just not enough room to squeeze it in. If there were and the original ILX came with a 2.4/CVT option I bet it would have sold a lot better.

200,000km/125k miles tells me these cars were several years old when these transmissions failed. Honda has been making CVTs for awhile. They certainly can't afford to risk their main stream Accord and Civic on them. The greater efficiency is just too good to pass up. Seeing a CVT in the ILX would not surprise me. Doesn't mean they will do it or could do it, but it wouldn't surprise me.

pockets

Actually the ilx is for me thats why i bought one n clearly the 2.0 was a bad idea hence this thread! I got luxury with a MT and some power. Again 2.0 is embarrasing.

pockets

And for ne person on this damn planet to think for 1 second that the 2.0 even comes close to being quick....well says a lot about you and wat u think a quick car is

x95zsk

I would love more power, but not really required. I have the 2.0 and i drive 80% highway. so as long as I cruze at 120 km/hr i am good. I honestly don't need more power. a 6 speed auto would be nice

pockets

Dont get me wrong my issue isnt with the guy who bought it for the commute/family. Its for the guys that bought it and wanna do performance with it. It just doesnt make ne sense at all!

wildeklave

well the 150 hp and 140 torque is noticeable if on the entrance lane of a highway behind a slow poke and you want to pass but the guy coming in the next lane is going a good 15 mph faster. You need about 215-230 torque at about 4000 rpms to be able to jet out for a quick pass. Also, you may have a situation on the highway where it goes from 1 lane to 2 (or 2-3) for about a mile to allow passing (driving from Phoenix to Vegas you have this). You need some extra torque to pass the trucks and slower drivers. This is normal driving and not performance.

usdmJON

Whats embarrassing is your lack of sentence structure and understanding of the english language.

The fact that you have "issues" with WHAT someone is modding verse HOW they are modding speaks volumes about you as a tuner. You're a bought, not built guy. You buy the most expensive model you can afford, leave it stock then brag about how much quicker it is than the lower powered versions.

Have fun with that
Keep in mind regardless, you own an ILX and more than 3/4s the community here still thinks you bought the wrong Acura.

pockets

I guess the cars not for me since 3/4s of acurazine said so. Thanks a lot guys for looking out for me. An especially jon always good feedback coming from you big guy jeewiz your smart!

pockets

Makes sense jon why 3/4s of acurazine agree with you see only a small percentage will see the smarter side of things there are more stupid people on this earth then there are smart. But dont you worry your the majority!

VckPtl

You're....


According to Urban Dictionary:
Grammar -- Something that people on the internet are incapable of learning.

pockets

Correct my typo. Good job. Were making progress

usdmJON

I like my ILX... 3/4s of this site thinks all ILXs are dumb... I am in the minority here.
Do you even read the posts you respond to?

Might respect your opinions more if you took the extra 2.2 seconds to properly convey your ideas.

Flipster23

iTrader: (15)

ILX has grown on me, I've only seen about 5 in my area though. Explains a lot though.

pockets

Do u read the posts?? Your not even intelligent enough to kno wen sum1 calls you dumb alwell proved my point . Ne ways goodluck 2.0 tuners.

usdmJON

I dont see them very often myself. I kind of want to ask my dealer how many they have sold locally.
There is someone maybe 2 blocks up the street from me with a white 2.0 premium and I see a white one at the Jersey Mikes once a week by my work. As well as a Gunmetal 2.4 premium that shoots at my work.
Aside from that I maybe see them driving around once a month or so. Still plenty new enough so people compliment it or ask me what it is while Im getting in or out.

I have had a couple people ask me why I got the 2.0.
It seems most people think if you want vtec you have to buy the k24. Both have vtec, one is sohc the other dohc.
I have even had people ask why I didnt get the manual V6 one. Some people think the manual is better than it actually is in this case.
Seems to me people just dont have a good understanding of what the 2.0 actually has let alone the ILX in general.

Yes its automatic but sports mode with paddle shifters works like your average race car now a days. Most professionals dont race complete manuals anymore.
Yes its only 150hp but it is relatively light and the 140lb of torque is more than enough to let you play speed racer on the freeway.
If you dont live in Canada and you buy the 2.4 you are stuck with a navigation screen smaller than my cell phone. Screw that. The tech package sets you up with a near 7in display as well as an extra 3 speakers, one big center stage speaker and two in the rear matched with I believe another 200 or so watts of power turns the cabin into a small concert tent.
All this without even mentioning the main feature.. navigation. And most will admit a factory navi unit beats the pants off aftermarket units... aside from updating costs.

So in the end, if you live in Canada you have the luxury of both worlds and have no right to claim the 2.0 in America is worthless in comparison to the 2.4 when the 2.4 in America is just flat out worth less money in luxury features.
Here in the states, you have power or tech.. your pick.
Personally, power can be gained... sure you can gain tech my throwing in a tomtom but fuck that that's not clean.

Flipster23

iTrader: (15)

You have the nerve to try and call someone out, when you can't even get your grammar correct.

usdmJON

Coming from the guy with a bipolar sense of punctuation and the inability to realize that "Ne ways" takes just as long to type correctly as "Anyway,".

pockets

It seems 2 bug u a lot. Until u stop me it wont stop.

Colin

:sigh:

Flipster23

iTrader: (15)

Oh, go ahead and continue, you will be banned so it will stop.

4cruizn

All:

Can't ban someone for using poor grammar, but someone reported pockets' post in here today, and this is the second time he's been reported to the moderators. If this continues to be an issue we will take corrective action.

I stopped coming to this thread long ago because it's no longer productive.

Keep it constructive guys.

usdmJON

Straight up e-thugin'.

Colin

Just lock it, we can start a new one if/when there is more to talk about.