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Old Feb 5, 2015 | 05:17 PM
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Dolby Vision

I was just at a private demo today of Dolbys new projection system called Dolby Vision.

In a word it's MINDBLOWING.

There is so much about it I'm not typing out on my phone.

But the tech is also coming to home television starting with Vizio in a couple months and then others.

Also look for Dolby Experience theaters to start popping up by the end of the year...they will be unreal and take the moviegoing experience to a whole new level. The first already opened in the Netherlands.
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Old Feb 5, 2015 | 05:22 PM
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Old Feb 5, 2015 | 06:01 PM
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it auto-silences crying babies in the theaters?
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 10:07 PM
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Old Mar 24, 2015 | 02:16 PM
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I read that Philips and a few other brands are using Dolby Vision but brands like Samsung, Sony, but not sure about LG and Panasonic won't have it. Is this a cost issue?
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Old Mar 24, 2015 | 02:36 PM
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Well it needs it's own area on the the TV SoC/processor. And it also will be licensed just like the audio side of Dolby.

To use full advantage TVs will also need a lot more lighting power (more LEDs, etc) but even without that it is still a large increase in brightness with the "same equipment".

Unlike what was mentioned in another thread, there is a substantial increase in bandwidth required for this tech at almost 25%. It has something with how they are layering two codecs together.
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Old Mar 24, 2015 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by maharajamd
Unlike what was mentioned in another thread, there is a substantial increase in bandwidth required for this tech at almost 25%. It has something with how they are layering two codecs together.
If you want to watch DV content, yes...because its basically sent as a "raw" signal and your TV/processor reads the metadata in conjunction with your TV's abilities and sets it up for your display. It has a lot more dynamic range and is a much better broadcast standard than rec709. its called rec2020, which, yes is a UHD (4k) standard but everything dolby showed me was in 2k and it was just amazing.

But if you are just watching BR or cable, or whatever...you will get to enjoy some of the advantage of what it will have to offer and you won't be eating bandwidth.Right now the only company set to offer DV content is Vudu...and since they are Wal Mart I don't support it...but hopefully others will come around.

Right now the only company set to offer
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Old Mar 24, 2015 | 03:18 PM
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HDR also muddies up the waters. And is why Panny/LG/Samsung haven't jumped on the DV bandwagon yet.
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Old Mar 24, 2015 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by maharajamd
HDR also muddies up the waters. And is why Panny/LG/Samsung haven't jumped on the DV bandwagon yet.
Its not HDR...that means something completely different.

Its expanded dynamic range and latitude.

When you watch something on your HD TV right now its broadcast or finished in rec709 color space...its very limiting in color and where it clips the highlights and crushes the blacks. It far from shows you what you actually captured on your film negative or sensor. Vastly different than a digital print you watch in the theater which is a completely different kind of file.

All this is doing is bringing more the image the cinematographer intended the audience to experience.

The lack of true standards is a whole other frustrating issue in and of itself...
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Old Mar 24, 2015 | 04:49 PM
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^I didn't mean Dolby Vision and HDR, I meant there are competing technologies like BR vs HDDVD...

Read an article once in a while homeslice :P
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Old Mar 24, 2015 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by maharajamd
^I didn't mean Dolby Vision and HDR, I meant there are competing technologies like BR vs HDDVD...

Read an article once in a while homeslice :P
When you say HDR, to me it refers to a technique of merging two series of the same image to create a giant range in dynamic latitude. Mainly in photography...but the RED Epic has a HDR function as well. Its a look I do not care for mainly because its improperly used 90% of the time.

So, if HDR is referring to something else than its something I haven't heard of yet...and with a name like that it will serve to confuse the fuck out of people.

I dont know how many people know of DV and whats its about. I had no clue about it until I was invited to see a demo. And at the projection demo they told us about the TVs coming as well.
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Old Mar 24, 2015 | 11:43 PM
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I saw an article on it a few weeks ago somewhere. Sounds fascinating, bringing more 'fidelity' and realism to the screen. Count me in!
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Old Mar 24, 2015 | 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
I saw an article on it a few weeks ago somewhere. Sounds fascinating, bringing more 'fidelity' and realism to the screen. Count me in!
Its not even realism...its more contrast, blacker blacks, brighter whites, more information in the frame in high contrast situations...and the clarity brought on by the enhanced contrast gives the appearance of a much higher resolution.

I can't wait to experience an entire movie in DV.

And Im very curious how the tech will translate over to TVs.
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Old Mar 25, 2015 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
When you say HDR, to me it refers to a technique of merging two series of the same image to create a giant range in dynamic latitude. Mainly in photography...but the RED Epic has a HDR function as well. Its a look I do not care for mainly because its improperly used 90% of the time.

So, if HDR is referring to something else than its something I haven't heard of yet...and with a name like that it will serve to confuse the fuck out of people.

I dont know how many people know of DV and whats its about. I had no clue about it until I was invited to see a demo. And at the projection demo they told us about the TVs coming as well.
I mean I guess you could call it HDRV. It could get confusing for some although it's pretty much just the video form of "photography HDR".

Panasonic backs HDR over Dolby Vision - promises improved TV audio | What Hi-Fi?
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Old Mar 25, 2015 | 08:27 AM
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Ugh. Another format war. Just stupid. Dolby vision is a much more thought out technology but I guess we'll see how this crap plays out...again. Good thing I'm in no rush to upgrade any of my stuff. 1080p works just fine for me.
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Old Mar 25, 2015 | 08:58 AM
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Yea I'm not thrilled either.
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Old Mar 25, 2015 | 09:57 AM
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Wow that looks secksi
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 10:13 AM
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Now that I have an OLED with Dolby Vision, I love to watch things at home, the visuals are just mindblowing!
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 12:49 PM
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Thank God Netflix uses it. I wish the damn UHD Dolby players would hurry up and come out and drop in price.
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Doom878
Thank God Netflix uses it. I wish the damn UHD Dolby players would hurry up and come out and drop in price.
Yeah exactly! Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos are starting to be commonplace on Netflix created content, if not ATMOS at least Vision. Altered Carbon looks so good on my display.
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Old Mar 6, 2018 | 06:46 AM
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Hmm didn't know they did ATMOS over the internet? I figured we were stuck with Dolby Digital 5.1 until broadband improved.

What is reference quality for Netflix DV shows? I kind of like demoing the opening chase in Stranger Things s2 e1 with the lit buildings and night sky.
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Old Mar 8, 2018 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Doom878
Hmm didn't know they did ATMOS over the internet? I figured we were stuck with Dolby Digital 5.1 until broadband improved.

What is reference quality for Netflix DV shows? I kind of like demoing the opening chase in Stranger Things s2 e1 with the lit buildings and night sky.
Yup they do. Netflix needs to detect you are using a Dolby Atmos capable device, my LG OLED has Atmos built in (and I use the TV's native Netflix app), it pushes the audio stream to my receiver which is also ATMOS capable.

https://help.netflix.com/en/node/64066 - Says you only need 3Mbps to do ATMOS, obviously the more the better, my pipe is 120Mbps and see no issues.
The Netflix logo opening of Bright has a good Atmos bit, Stranger Things is coded in Atmos I believe too, I would have to check. If you've seen The Cloverfield Paradox, there are some great scenes in there that really highlight Atmos, I would have to watch it again but happy to so I can find what scenes really shined.
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Old Mar 8, 2018 | 12:44 PM
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I take you have a 2017 LG? I've read the 16's don't have it.
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Old Mar 9, 2018 | 09:20 AM
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Starting to build out an ATMOS home theater right now. Looking forward to it!
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Old Mar 9, 2018 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Doom878
Thank God Netflix uses it. I wish the damn UHD Dolby players would hurry up and come out and drop in price.
Is the HDR stream part of the more expensive UHD streaming package?
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 07:44 AM
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Old Mar 13, 2018 | 01:03 PM
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^Yup
Well I don't have that so...I'll stick with the free HDR and 4K from Amazon.
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Old Mar 14, 2018 | 07:08 AM
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You don't have HDR or Netflix?
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Old Mar 14, 2018 | 07:25 AM
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I have the Premium plan that entails 4 users, which includes HDR....
but no 4K HDR Television.....
I'm missing out
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Old Mar 14, 2018 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Doom878
You don't have HDR or Netflix?
I have a 4K and HDR TV but not the premium service from Netflix. I get the premium service for free from Prime video though.
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Old Mar 14, 2018 | 10:32 AM
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That's where Netflix gets you but IMO worth it with the right equipment. Plus we need the 4 users anyways.
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Old Mar 14, 2018 | 10:37 AM
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the HDR and 4k is just a bonus...most people get the premium plan for the 4 users
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Old Mar 15, 2018 | 11:21 AM
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Yeah we just have the two of us so it doesn't make a ton of sense.
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