Washing Machine - Cold Water Not Really Cold?

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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 11:18 AM
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Washing Machine - Cold Water Not Really Cold?

We just got a new washer and dryer and it seems the cold water washes are not really cold. I'm used to cold water wash/rinse cycles being just cold water from the tap. This washer seems to add hot water to keep the temp up.

Now if the water was raised to about 60 F, that would be alright, but the clothes are actually a bit steamy when the wash finishes. Water must be at least 85 F or so.

I'm mainly concerned that the warmer water might damage/fade clothes that specify cold water wash only.

Is this normal? Anyone with a newer washer have this happen?
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 11:19 AM
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doesnt sound right. cold should be cold
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 12:42 PM
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Found this in the manual, but still doesn't seem right.

The dot symbols represent appropriate wash water temperatures for various items. The temperature range for Hot is 105-125°F(41-52°C), for Warm 85-105°F(29-41°C) and for Cold 60-85°F(16-29°C). (Wash water temperature must be a minimum of 60°F(16°C) for detergent activation and effective cleaning.) The clothes washer may not ensure these temperatures because the actual water temperatures entering your washer are dependent on water heater settings and regional water supply temperatures. For example, cold water entering the home in the northern states during winter may be 40°F(4°C) which is too cold for effective cleaning. The water temperature in this situation will need to be adjusted by selecting a warm setting, adding some hot water to the MAX FILL line or using your washer’s heating option, if available.
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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Hmm. That is weird. What type of washer is it?
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 03:04 PM
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Doesn't sound right to me, either. Where did you buy the washer?
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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Is the Warm or Hot cold? Cuz thats the only thing I can think would cause this is putting the water on the wrong inlets.
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 03:45 PM
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I guess the washing machines mixing valve might be broke/defective.
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 03:51 PM
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Bought it from Best Buy. It's the Samsung WF419AAW. Was originally supposed to get a different machine, but long story short, I ended up with this one, which should have been an upgrade.
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 04:12 PM
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My vote says you got the thing hooked up wrong. Hot going to cold. Try a hot wash, is it cold?
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 04:29 PM
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I'm also going to guess that something isn't hooked up properly.

And no, in our case (we have both a "cool" and "cold" setting), the clothes certainly do not come out steaming...There is a noticeable difference in how the clothes feel temperature-wise based on my settings when I grab them from the washer.
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 04:51 PM
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I'm pretty sure things were hooked up right, but I will check again after work. I know the connections at the tap are correct and both faucets are fully open, but need to verify the connections to the washer.

I also called Samsung support and they said it didn't seem normal, but wouldn't do much without me being in front of the machine. Will call them again later if it isn't the connections.
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 05:51 PM
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My washing machine has three temperature selections -- hot, warm, cold, and tap cold. I suspect that you're just working off of an assumption that 'cold' has always been tap cold, whereas in reality it has a definition as a particular temperature range. Your manual is probably right, but if it's running at the upper end of the range you probably want to figure that out.

Is your hot water heater set really high? Maybe the cold water valve going into the washer isn't fully open?
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by svtmike
My washing machine has three temperature selections -- hot, warm, cold, and tap cold.
1, 2, 3....4....hmmmmmmm
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
1, 2, 3....4....hmmmmmmm
Maybe you should ask your mommy to increase your allowance so you can afford my washer.
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by svtmike
Maybe you should ask your mommy to increase your allowance so you can afford my washer.
Kenmore HE5 baby, top o the world, you can have your poopy washer
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by moeronn
I'm pretty sure things were hooked up right, but I will check again after work. I know the connections at the tap are correct and both faucets are fully open, but need to verify the connections to the washer.

I also called Samsung support and they said it didn't seem normal, but wouldn't do much without me being in front of the machine. Will call them again later if it isn't the connections.
Originally Posted by svtmike
My washing machine has three temperature selections -- hot, warm, cold, and tap cold. I suspect that you're just working off of an assumption that 'cold' has always been tap cold, whereas in reality it has a definition as a particular temperature range. Your manual is probably right, but if it's running at the upper end of the range you probably want to figure that out.

Is your hot water heater set really high? Maybe the cold water valve going into the washer isn't fully open?
So you can't count or read. How did you manage to get a job that allows you to afford your 3/4 temperature setting washer?
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 06:29 PM
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Cold should be Cold...period.

Take the washer back.
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by moeronn
So you can't count or read. How did you manage to get a job that allows you to afford your 3/4 temperature setting washer?
I can read. I just didn't read your post. I'm not the one who can't get my washing machine to work.
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 06:51 PM
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Kenmore HE5 baby, top o the world, you can have your poopy washer
Whirlpool Cabrio.
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by svtmike
My washing machine has three temperature selections -- hot, warm, cold, and tap cold.
My machine doesn't have tap cold, but my wife does.
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 01:07 AM
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It turns out that neither myself nor the installers are idiots - just the plumber who put the hot water on the right (yet, incorrect) tap.

Problem solved... once I find a wrench.
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 01:30 AM
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Interesting
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by moeronn
It turns out that neither myself nor the installers are idiots - just the plumber who put the hot water on the right (yet, incorrect) tap.

Problem solved... once I find a wrench.
ahhh...the old mesican plumber trick.
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 04:52 PM
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I took care of it this morning. I just can't believe that they ran new copper to the garage for the laundry, but reversed the taps.

They did so many quality upgrades, yet did nearly as many just little stupid things that wouldn't have been hard to do right. I will either get used to them or be annoyed to the point that I have to fix them. Most likely the latter.
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by moeronn
They did so many quality upgrades, yet did nearly as many just little stupid things that wouldn't have been hard to do right. I will either get used to them or be annoyed to the point that I have to fix them. Most likely the latter.
That's similar to my house, lol. The more I work on the house the more little things I find that are just..."why?" But, the beauty of home ownership is that you can change the querks if you feel you need to!
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Like...for instance, a previous owner of my house was obsessed with phone jacks and CATV drops. They ran a good portion of these on the exterior of the house. I thought it was fugly, and since I had the Dish installer run a new drop to my bedroom and living room, and with the invention of multiple handset cordless phone systems (if I ever decide to utilize home phone service), I ripped it all out all the way up to the CATV and phone MPOEs.

I re-ran a phone line directly to my office from the MPOE (for DSL service...don't feel like paying Comcast any time soon) using good quality cable (a co-worker of mine gave me a spool of augmented CAT-6 as a housewarming gift ). Much cleaner, now.
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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Exactly. We have all the cable coax coming out of the hardwood floors. I need to rerun them through the walls. Will probably add cat5e at the same time, but wireless may trump that.

They also must have had a blind fold on while deciding on places for light switches. They have them in the most inconvenient places. They also put dimmers in places that don't really need them, but didn't put them where they would be more handy.

I foresee cutting a lot of drywall and drilling a lot of holes. (and this is H&G, not D&R, so save your "drilling a lot of holes" comments. )
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by moeronn

They also must have had a blind fold on while deciding on places for light switches. They have them in the most inconvenient places. They also put dimmers in places that don't really need them, but didn't put them where they would be more handy.
Same here!! Just about every single light switch was a dimmer switch when I first moved in...and to top it off they didn't use the correct faceplates or switch knobs so they stuck out away from the wall a bit and were not pretty. Replacing those switches with simple on/off switches was the first thing I did, lol.
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 10:15 PM
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i didnt read the whole thread, but the washing machine we have at home doesnt put out cold water when set to cold, it cycles between dumping in warm water and cold water.

but the clothes dont make steam or anything after washing them
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