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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 07:28 AM
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Aren't working (front and back). I don't see any flipped switches in the fuse box. Anyone know where to look?
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 07:45 AM
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Do they have a button on the outlet themselves? Most outdoor outlets do

Other than that there could be a switch anywhere in the house/garage/basement to kill the outlets
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 08:05 AM
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 08:07 AM
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Ask your neighbor to flip the switch in the garage that never turned anything on
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 08:08 AM
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Ask your neighbor to flip the switch in the garage that never turned anything on
I just did and now its Christmas....
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 08:13 AM
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No GFI outside? And I'm sure you don't own a volt/ohm meter to test, do you?

Is the basement finished? Can you follow things from where it comes back inside to your panel and see what breaker it's with?
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 08:13 AM
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Aren't working (front and back). I don't see any flipped switches in the fuse box. Anyone know where to look?
They are on a GFCI circuit. The button may not be on that outlet, but another on the circuit. Best bet is to look in the garage outlets to see if the GFCI is popped on one of them (They are often on the same circuit)
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 08:19 AM
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No GFI outside? And I'm sure you don't own a volt/ohm meter to test, do you?

Is the basement finished? Can you follow things from where it comes back inside to your panel and see what breaker it's with?
The basement is finished, and I don't own a volt meter...I can get one maybe...Since its front and back, Im not sure where to trace it from...
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 08:19 AM
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They are on a GFCI circuit. The button may not be on that outlet, but another on the circuit. Best bet is to look in the garage outlets to see if the GFCI is popped on one of them (They are often on the same circuit)
Checking now.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 08:19 AM
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^^^^ I agree with pmptx. In very rare instances the GFCI button may be on the breaker itself.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 08:29 AM
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Well, the garage outlets are off too...I just reset all the breakers and they are still out...Ill look at it later..
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 08:30 AM
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^^^^ I agree with pmptx. In very rare instances the GFCI button may be on the breaker itself.
I don't see any buttons on the outlets themselves...
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 08:56 AM
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How old is your house? Because GFCI's were not always required on outdoor outlets. My parent's house, which was built in the 70's did not have them, till my dad and I added them.

They can be in weird places too. In my master bath the GFCI for the shower light is at the bottom of a closet under a shelf. The first time it tripped it took me two days to find the thing.

If you can't find a GFCI and the breaker is not tripped AND you are not getting power to the outlets, then call an electrician. While electrical circuits are not terribly complex, due to the amount of current involved, simple mistakes can lead to disastrous consequences.

Just my two cents.

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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 09:21 AM
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Its a newer house. The garage outlets are out too, but they worked last week so I tripped something. I can't find the breaker (its not with the others). I called an electrician.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 10:14 AM
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I had an issue like that once, had to reset the button on an electrical outlet in another room. Try them all if need be.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 01:43 PM
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it looks like you have a GFCI upstream somewhere and since that is tripped, it has turned off all the other outlets that are downstream. i would check the basement... does your breaker box have an outlet near it... that may be the master...
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Rock2534
I had an issue like that once, had to reset the button on an electrical outlet in another room. Try them all if need be.
Instances like that sound like some shady wiring, all our GFCI's operate individually.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 02:39 PM
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Instances like that sound like some shady wiring, all our GFCI's operate individually.
I wouldn't call it shady, in my case the outlet on the inside wall of the garage had the GFI which also controlled an outlet inside the house(on the other side of the same wall). Its not like they were on completely different sides of the house. I was basically saying the same thing as Kamlung, just not as well I suppose!
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 03:30 PM
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If I can't find the reset, can an electrician?
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
If I can't find the reset, can an electrician?
:ib$20krewiringofthehouse:
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
:ib$20krewiringofthehouse:
actually we don't need to go in the garage or outside....
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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I found one of the red switches in the kitchen, but nothing
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 08:02 PM
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If I can't find the reset, can an electrician?
take pictures of the whole house in great detail, I'm sure one of our snipers can find it.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 08:08 PM
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 08:37 PM
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Found it in my kids bathroom....
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
If I can't find the reset, can an electrician?
Did you check your local substation? Usually outdoor electrical outlets have to be on a separate local circuit to for safety and theft prevention measures. I'd check with your home association first before you move up the food chain.

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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 08:44 PM
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 08:47 PM
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Also, check with Ernie - I think he had this same problem a while back. It must be a Jersey thing.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 08:55 PM
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Also, check with Ernie - I think he had this same problem a while back. It must be a Jersey thing.
I fixed it.....Get with it...
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 09:01 PM
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I fixed it.....Get with it...
Are you sure? You could be tapping into your neighbors line since it's on a shared circuit - I would double check, maybe ask your neighbor if his next utility bill is on the high side.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Fibonacci
Are you sure? You could be tapping into your neighbors line since it's on a shared circuit - I would double check, maybe ask your neighbor if his next utility bill is on the high side.
The neighbor is cute...I may be tapping her later...
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okay this is getting off topic fellas... he found it...
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 09:07 PM
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okay this is getting off topic fellas... he found it...
That's what she said...
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One of my friends is an electrical engineer, he told me that much of the East Coast infrastructure is outdated because of the era it was built. One of the reasons why the entire Eastern Seaboard power grid went out a few years back if you recall.

Anywhoo - I would def check with your homeowners association first, but if you want to meet your new neighbor that would be a great place to start too. It probably wouldn't be very neighborly of you to be sucking off of their circuit. Depending on the local laws, it could be a felony.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Fibonacci
One of my friends is an electrical engineer, he told me that much of the East Coast infrastructure is outdated because of the era it was built. One of the reasons why the entire Eastern Seaboard power grid went out a few years back if you recall.

Anywhoo - I would def check with your homeowners association first, but if you want to meet your new neighbor that would be a great place to start too. It probably wouldn't be very neighborly of you to be sucking off of their circuit. Depending on the local laws, it could be a felony.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 09:12 PM
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Hey, just trying to help - don't wanna see you get off to an unwelcome start back in teh states. You're pressing you luck here - better safe than sorry.
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Originally Posted by Fibonacci
One of my friends is an electrical engineer, he told me that much of the East Coast infrastructure is outdated because of the era it was built. One of the reasons why the entire Eastern Seaboard power grid went out a few years back if you recall.

Anywhoo - I would def check with your homeowners association first, but if you want to meet your new neighbor that would be a great place to start too. It probably wouldn't be very neighborly of you to be sucking off of their circuit. Depending on the local laws, it could be a felony.


I'm completely confused. I thought it was a felony to tap your neighbor only if she wasn't built long enough in the past.
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I suspect it's in your kid's bathroom, that's the standard spot.
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Old Aug 16, 2008 | 06:21 AM
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Found it in my kids bathroom....
Congrats !!

But that would drive me crazy... Having one outlet take out 1/2 dozen others...
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Old Aug 16, 2008 | 06:42 AM
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I suspect it's in your kid's bathroom, that's the standard spot.
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