Home Studio
02-08-2012, 08:30 PM
#1
'08 MX5 GT 6spd.
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Home Studio
One of many projects going on right now....
Basically there is a built in storage unit on the new house. Its only accessible from the backyard, by a standard weather proof metal door. There are no windows, and it is bricked in.
The room was used as a "storage" for junk pretty much before. Its heated & cooled and I find it completely pointless to store tools, etc with an enormous garage. I want to build a home studio in this storage space so I can play whenever I want, with no pissy neighbors, esp since on both sides I've got older retired couples.
Some of you may know, but I've been a drummer for most of my life. I started when I was 10 or so, got serious around 14, toured from 19-23, sold all my gear like an idiot after the last group I was with and only recently bought another kit to get back into it. I sold my SUV and don't plan on doing the whole band thing again, esp since drums are hard to fit in a Miata.
Here is a layout of the room with how I'd like it arranged. All of the sizes are accurate, right down to the size of the drums and cymbals. I'd like to add some studio foam in some areas, just to deaden the sound a little. I'd like to get some business grade carpet for the floors, etc. Its basically a blank canvas. I dont want like a professional recording studio, just a place that I can drum away into the night, or even have a some friends over to record some stuff. Just goofing around mostly.
How do I sound proof the door? Sound escapes from the door only, I'm assuming from the seals and weatherproofing. I've had my wife bang (
) on a snare drum (easily the loudest part of the kit) and from 5ft away from the door its as loud as a normal conversation. Any Ideas?
Basically there is a built in storage unit on the new house. Its only accessible from the backyard, by a standard weather proof metal door. There are no windows, and it is bricked in.
The room was used as a "storage" for junk pretty much before. Its heated & cooled and I find it completely pointless to store tools, etc with an enormous garage. I want to build a home studio in this storage space so I can play whenever I want, with no pissy neighbors, esp since on both sides I've got older retired couples.
Some of you may know, but I've been a drummer for most of my life. I started when I was 10 or so, got serious around 14, toured from 19-23, sold all my gear like an idiot after the last group I was with and only recently bought another kit to get back into it. I sold my SUV and don't plan on doing the whole band thing again, esp since drums are hard to fit in a Miata.
Here is a layout of the room with how I'd like it arranged. All of the sizes are accurate, right down to the size of the drums and cymbals. I'd like to add some studio foam in some areas, just to deaden the sound a little. I'd like to get some business grade carpet for the floors, etc. Its basically a blank canvas. I dont want like a professional recording studio, just a place that I can drum away into the night, or even have a some friends over to record some stuff. Just goofing around mostly.
How do I sound proof the door? Sound escapes from the door only, I'm assuming from the seals and weatherproofing. I've had my wife bang (
) on a snare drum (easily the loudest part of the kit) and from 5ft away from the door its as loud as a normal conversation. Any Ideas?
Last edited by MarbleGT; 02-08-2012 at 08:36 PM.
02-08-2012, 09:52 PM
#4
Gonna suck to be living next to you!
02-09-2012, 07:48 AM
#5
will wait for pics and also pics of the door... definitely check the weatherstripping and see if the bottom of the door has a sweep that hovers over the floor and threshold...
another spot to check is behind the moulding in the frame of the door... sometimes when people install doors, they shim the door plumb, and then put up moulding over it... there should be some expanding foam or even soundproof caulking in the gap behind the moulding...
if that is all covered and it still isn't good enough, you may have to do a double door... the air between the two doors will help create some sound protection...
another spot to check is behind the moulding in the frame of the door... sometimes when people install doors, they shim the door plumb, and then put up moulding over it... there should be some expanding foam or even soundproof caulking in the gap behind the moulding...
if that is all covered and it still isn't good enough, you may have to do a double door... the air between the two doors will help create some sound protection...
02-09-2012, 08:05 AM
#6
I play my drums in my side room off the garage & I never get any complaints. As long as I don't play after 11pm. But it's really not that loud outside the house anyway. I was surprised at that.
Door can be sealed with sealant foam. You can also hang some plywood along the walls paint over to make it look decent, then cover them with acoustic foam.
Door can be sealed with sealant foam. You can also hang some plywood along the walls paint over to make it look decent, then cover them with acoustic foam.
02-09-2012, 08:13 AM
#7
'08 MX5 GT 6spd.
Thread Starter
Yea, the door is the only issue...and it isn't really even a big one.
I can walk around to the side of the house and there is zero sound escaping.
I'll snap some pics of the door and current room as today when I get home.
I can walk around to the side of the house and there is zero sound escaping.
I'll snap some pics of the door and current room as today when I get home.
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02-09-2012, 07:03 PM
#8
The sizzle in the Steak
Interior door or exterior door?
If interior door, swap door out for solid core wood door with full seals around the door frame, and add a threshold with seals and or a drop carpet sweep.
You can also put studio foam on the door.
Otherwise the next step would be double mount studio type door(s)
on the same modified door frame.
If interior door, swap door out for solid core wood door with full seals around the door frame, and add a threshold with seals and or a drop carpet sweep.
You can also put studio foam on the door.
Otherwise the next step would be double mount studio type door(s)
on the same modified door frame.
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02-10-2012, 09:40 AM
#9
'08 MX5 GT 6spd.
Thread Starter
Its not an interior door.
Man, I need to take pics....
This is the best I can do for now. I've highlighted the storage unit so you guys can better understand where its at.
Man, I need to take pics....
This is the best I can do for now. I've highlighted the storage unit so you guys can better understand where its at.
Last edited by MarbleGT; 02-10-2012 at 09:48 AM.
02-10-2012, 10:49 AM
#10
The sizzle in the Steak
You can still do a double mount door w/ frame modification on the exterior door.
Modify the frame and mount a new solid core door in the same frame as the exterior door.
Make sure you add full gaskets/seals around the frame, and back the door with studio foam.
Modify the frame and mount a new solid core door in the same frame as the exterior door.
Make sure you add full gaskets/seals around the frame, and back the door with studio foam.
02-10-2012, 11:43 AM
#12
The sizzle in the Steak
Most studio single doors are 2-3/4", whereas most standard doors are 1-3/4".
You can purchase a single 2-3/4" door and modify the door frame if you don't want to install the 2-door scenario.
A good idea is to get the STC (sound rating) into the mid 50's for your door assembly.
That will make the door assembly equal to a double stud wall with two layers of batt insulation.
You can purchase a single 2-3/4" door and modify the door frame if you don't want to install the 2-door scenario.
A good idea is to get the STC (sound rating) into the mid 50's for your door assembly.
That will make the door assembly equal to a double stud wall with two layers of batt insulation.
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02-10-2012, 11:46 AM
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You will add a new solid core door on the interior side of existing/modified exterior door frame.
ie....once completed, to exit said room, you will open the new solid core interior door, and then open the existing exterior door to exit.
You may not have seen this application before if you have not been to a recording studio that utilizes this, however you may have seen a similar set up in a hotel room that has adjoining rooms where the two doors are back to back in the same wall and in the same frame.
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MarbleGT (02-10-2012)
02-10-2012, 01:15 PM
#14
'08 MX5 GT 6spd.
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The exterior door remains.
You will add a new solid core door on the interior side of existing/modified exterior door frame.
ie....once completed, to exit said room, you will open the new solid core interior door, and then open the existing exterior door to exit.
You may not have seen this application before if you have not been to a recording studio that utilizes this, however you may have seen a similar set up in a hotel room that has adjoining rooms where the two doors are back to back in the same wall and in the same frame.
You will add a new solid core door on the interior side of existing/modified exterior door frame.
ie....once completed, to exit said room, you will open the new solid core interior door, and then open the existing exterior door to exit.
You may not have seen this application before if you have not been to a recording studio that utilizes this, however you may have seen a similar set up in a hotel room that has adjoining rooms where the two doors are back to back in the same wall and in the same frame.
I've only recorded at Dallas Sound Lab and Maximedia...I seem to remember only enormously thick doors.
02-10-2012, 01:21 PM
#15
The sizzle in the Steak
^^ Good to hear.
Yea, various studios will have vastly different designs in terms of doors, walls & windows.
It all depends on the setup and sound requirements.
Good luck!
Yea, various studios will have vastly different designs in terms of doors, walls & windows.
It all depends on the setup and sound requirements.
Good luck!
02-10-2012, 04:35 PM
#16
Wait until you're in there jamming and getting drunk and see how well you handle the doors. 
02-10-2012, 05:02 PM
#18
The sizzle in the Steak
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