subinf

Damn. Not a whole lot of bone to start with in the toe.

dallison

I ran a 5k this morning that i ran in 92/93 and have been running it for the past three years.
in 2010 i ran it in 22:12, last year it was 21:03 and today i ran it in 20:28. The first mile is uphill and the split was 7:13, the second mile was 6:00.

Everything felt great today but my hip/groin did hurt a tiny afterwards but i think i can nurse it back to health. I am looking to do a half in two weeks. I'm hoping to finish in 1:25-1:30, we'll see what happens.

dallison

Your toes feeling any better?





I have signed up for a half for 9/9, next Sunday. I always wait until the last minute for bigger races to make sure i don't injure myself. I hope to finish under 1:30.

dallison

The race was a flop. I ran a 1:35:21 on a flat course.
It started out decent and i didn't go real fast the first couple of miles. Mile 4-6 seemed to go by pretty slowly as if i ran out of steam already. Halfway was 47:something. I couldn't wait for mile 8 to eat some sports beans or anything for a boost.

By mile 10 i was still just putting along and only at mile 12 did i really put any effort into it.


There are a few things that contributed to my failing to get a decent time;

I may have ran too many miles last week, my hip/groin area was strained about 3-4 weeks back but sisn't hurt for the past two weeks.
Saturday i had five guys and then pizza and wings for dinner, that most definitely wasn't good.

The middle part of my back was aching also as i was running miles 9-12, that was a first and i did not push it at all.

This was pretty much a "what can i do wrong to not do well" type of race.



I didn't push it and turned it into a training run.
I'm very happy with my efforts for the most part this year. I ran two halves and one ten miler, neither was on my agenda at the beginning of the year and that is an all around victory for me.
My next race is the north face race to the summit in Vermont Columbus day weekend. It's only two miles but it's all uphill.


I am pretty sure i'll have to do some race pace miles to do better at my next half........if i ever do one again.

'06 Arctic

Nice job Dallison! I remember you saying in the past that you didn't think you would ever want to run longer than a 5k!! Take a little break from the distance running and I'm sure come next spring you'll want another shot at a HM.

dallison

Thanks, i feel like i need to do another to prove to myself that i can do it. But, in this mindset i'm not doing my body any favors and could possibly injure myself.

Right now my mind is set on Stratton. I only have three weeks to get ready for that. I guess i'll be hitting the hills each week to prepare.

In other news, my wife began running July 1st and will be running her first 5k in two weeks. She's up to four miles on a run and is progressing nicely.She's enjoying the weight loss(she's not overweight) and things are starting to fit her better as she says.

I'll be running the race with her to get her to the end. I gave her the choice of us running our own races or running together, i'm glad we're doing it together.
I pulled at her heartstrings a bit with this one, it benefits dogs. She's a dog lover and has been for life.
I'm touched that she said one day that she thinks she wants to go on a run with me.

dallison

How is everyone else doing this year?

TLtrigirl

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dallison-remember train smart, and do the HR training...the HM won't be so hard and you'll be faster without having to kill yourself doing it. spend the winter doing it with NO speed work. trust me.

just had a half iron this past weekend. third overall female and 2nd in my age group. it was a small local race but a podium finish is a podium finish. time was ok for the course.

i have another half iron at the end of the month. then a marathon in november (which i'm dreading).

dallison

kick ass on placing. Sometimes you need smaller races to give you a boost.You definitely have a good busy schedule.

I will do that, i think it will really help me in the spring. i had purchased a small set of used dumbbells. They are 10-30 lbs in 5lb increments. That is plenty for me to do strength training and not bulk up.

dallison

I think i am going to use hal higdons' advanced half training plan next year. I will incorporate the slower running. This winter will be just slow running. I am resisting getting a gps with hr monitor but that is key to the other program you suggest trigirl.

I looked at the other levels of his training and they aren't really close to where i am at right now. I am somewhat competitive at the 5ks but not the longer distance and i need that boost.

TLtrigirl

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dallison-

training smarter...it's a combo of things. listening to your body, minimizing risk of injury...
i tried for many yrs to self coach. it worked to a point. i need more guidance. i need better methods that would allow me to tap my potential. i started HR training with a coach...and it's been good. my performances improved, they have been more consistent and solid efforts. i have had little to no injuries that have prevented me from training in the last 4 yrs since being on this program.

why are you so resistant to tools that can potetially help you improve and be more efficient??

imj0257

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I am going to do a half/full marathon here in December and February. I am starting to pick up my mileage on runs.. have been running 10 milers for a while now. I know I can do the half marathon no problem but am debating on the full. I really want to complete a full one (priority is not to get a good time but to finish).

Decisions...

TLtrigirl

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totally doable by february. you'll finish. it's training smartly (i think i said this before)

the 20 mile training runs will suck. the reward of completing the full will be worth it (if that's what you want). me, personally don't really like open marathons. they hurt too much. i'd much rather do an ironman tri than an open marathon, but that's me.

you perspsective on the mileage will change as you put the miles in. do the 20 miler and 10 seems really short.

dallison

I agree, i think you can get the full done as long as you start very soon.

imj0257

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That is one thing I have definitely noticed since I started running. When I first started running, 3 miles felt like a lot. Then running 5 miles made 3 miles feel too short and easy. Then 8 made 5 seem short and easy. Now 10 makes 8 seem a little too short.

Only thing that doesn't change is that I know it takes over an hour of my day to complete the runs


And I still do plan on doing a triathlon in the near future. I just need to find a place to practice swimming and need to get a bike (my uncle has a pretty new, nice road bike that he said I can basically have since he is unable to use it).

'06 Arctic

Why are you so persistent to push someone to follow a certain training method when there are numerous plans/methods out there. What works best for you may not work best for others. There could be a multitude of reasons why a certain training method works for one person and not another or why a person may not be interested in trying a certain method.

TLtrigirl

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^^fair enough. i will proceed to filter my posts accordingly.

everyone-go do whatever the you think will work best for you.

all i did was ask him a question that he didn't answer. he doesn't want to try something different, fine. it's apparent that he is not getting the results he desires and he is getting injured. sometimes if something isn't working, try something different. or just keep doing the same thing b/c that's what you're comfortable with, have at it. it's your body. i actually do know what the hell i'm talking about when it comes to this stuff. i didn't just pick up some recent issue of runner's world or look this up on the internet without doing my research.

dallison-my apologies if i made you feel pressured in anyway. i'm just passionate about my sport and have a much more thorough knowledge of these types of things (b/c of my day job). do what you're going to do. i thought the point of this thread was to help each other out?

dallison

I have never felt pressured. I am very stubborn in choosing to do something such as using technology to help me get faster. I have to admit, i have slowed down most of my runs and i have been pretty much injury free compared to past years. I have had some issues b/c of certain things, but i think the method works.

I want everyone to be able to contribute freely. Everyone is very passionate about something and tltrigirl seems experienced and i am willing to take notes.

We all have the option to ignore. I don't do everything that is recommended, but many things are worth looking into.

'06 Arctic

Maybe that came across a little harsh, I apologize for that tltrigirl.

TLtrigirl

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artic-

dallison

I thought i was going to be able to get in another half this year, but i'll have to wait.

I have the stratton mountain 2 mile race in a week and a half and then a 10k on the 21st of october.
Somehow i am closing in on 140 miles for the month, i have no idea how i got here. It feels good.

imj0257

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subinf

Congrats on the mileage.

'06 Arctic

My sister had been training the past few months to run her first half marathon this month then she was going to build on that to complete her first full in March. Those plans got blown up when she found out she fractured her hip during a training run two weeks ago. She went out for a 12 mile run and about 4 miles in her hip started to have some pain. At 6 miles, it completely gave out on her. She wasn't able to put any weight on it. Luckily she had her cell with her and called my brother-in-law to come pick her up. Dr. said it started out as a stress fracture and then became a complete fracture in her hip. She had surgery with pins inserted last week. Off her feet for 2 weeks, then can slowly start putting weight on her leg.

Morale of the story: Don't ignore small aches and pains! She had been only running 3-4 days a week and she followed the "10%" rule on increasing her mileage. I'm assuming that she had been ignoring the nagging pain from the stress fracture in her hip. Sadly it turned into a much worse injury.

imj0257

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Ouch

subinf

Wow

dallison

get out! I hope she has a speedy recovery. I know it took longer for my knee to get rehabbed since i waited so long to get it taken care of.
Hopefully she can get a half in next year.

'06 Arctic

Yeah, I thought they same thing as I couldn't believe it would just happen that quickly and all of a sudden you wouldn't be able to put on weight on one of your legs at all. But it did, pretty crazy! She is doing good. Her surgery went real well. next 2 weeks can't bear any weight at all, then can gradually start to build from there.

dallison

Mrs. Dallison has been running for two months and she ran her first 5k in 25:27 on Saturday. She makes me so proud.

subinf

Went on a 5 mile run today. Was hot - even when running by the water. Missed the usual wind.

dallison

I ran the big ass hill in Vermont again this past weekend. The event seemed a little disorganized from a participants' perspective.
They started the race at a different location, which no one said anything about. And then they moved the awards from 11 am to noon.
We didn't stick around for that.

But, they did give one free brunch for each participant and it was delicious.

My time was longer but we had to run an extra 1/4 mile more than last year.

This is most definitely the last year i run it. The challenge has lost it's appeal.

imj0257

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So last night I was planning on doing a 11 mile training run but at the halfway point I felt I had more energy so why not go for HM 13.1 miles? So I ran it and got 1:39:30 which is about 8 minutes less than the time I got at the HM I did in February. I am totally ready for the Dallas HM/M in December!

Also, I got some new shoes a few week ago. I had the Nike Pegasus+ 28 and got the updated 29's. Love 'em. Not as much cushioning as the 28's but have more bounce and are much noticeably lighter.

Anyone use gels or energy supplements during their runs? I used a pack of the GU energy gel - peanut butter flavor. GODDAM it was amazing. I have used gels in the past and the flavor was not that good. But this tasted just like peanut butter! Took about a mile to feel the affects of it but it did help. I also bought a pack of the stinger energy chews and clif shots to try them out as well.

subinf

I used to have a Gu during longer workouts but it doesn't sit well with me anymore. Not sure why. I like the energy chews

dallison

That's an awesome time imj, you should be much quicker in a race.

TLtrigirl

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i've used GU in races and training along with electrolyte capsules (salt stick capsules)...i did for the run of my last 70.3 tri since race logistics prevented me from using a fuel belt. i PR'd my run time on a hilly course. go figure.

i don't tolerate chewing while i'm racing...so no chews, bars, etc.

imj0257

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Yea the idea of eating/chewing while I'm running doesn't sound too great to me. But I figured I'd try out the different things and see what I like best so I got them anyways..

subinf

I seem to tolerate a gummy substance better, so long as it is chased with a lot of water. No heavy things like bars though.

TLtrigirl

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always have to chase gu and other "food" with water...otherwise...GI...gets really unhappy.

dallison

During my last half i tried to eat sports beans, it was very difficult to do and took a decent amount of concentration.

TLtrigirl

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sport beans...they stick to your teeth...i'd be afraid of aspirating one of those things and choking. the shot bloks stick to your teeth too.

i saw a guy at one of my IM, eating a slice of cheese pizza he pulled out of his special needs bag at the half way point of the bike. i only know b/c he almost swerved into me.

anyone ever try the peanut butter AND the chocolate Gu together (peanut butter cup)? i've been intrigued about trying it...not sure i'd do it in a race...