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Old 10-19-2005, 11:04 PM
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Fish oil boosts IQ

Fish oil boosts IQ - - by Paul Cribb, B.H.Sci HMS - AST Director of Research - - Source: http://www.ast-ss.com/


A recent study carried out on over 300 people reported those who eat oily fish of take fish oil supplements regularly score 13% higher in IQ tests and are less likely to show early signs of Alzheimer’s disease.

We already know that fish oil protects against heart disease and also imporves insulin sensitivity in people with a high risk of diabetes, now researchers from Scotland report that consumption of fish oil could actually improve the health of your brain and protect against Alzheimer's. Dementia already affects millions around the world and the threat is increasing with the growing numbers of elderly. Alzheimer's disease, the leading cause of dementia in the elderly, afflicts an estimated 4.5 million people in the US alone.

A team from the University of Aberdeen and the University of Edinburgh gathered data from people who had taken part in a national IQ survey in 1947, when they were aged 11, and tested them again in 2000-01 when they were aged 64. The researchers used a questionnaire to find out about omega-3 levels from the subjects' diet and supplement use, and tested their plasma levels of omega-3.

The researchers report that cognitive function in the 64-year-olds was higher if they were fish oil supplement users than if they did not take supplements. The big difference was found in mental speed. The brains of fish oil users seemed to be faster. There was a strong relationship between mental test scores and the omega-3 content in the blood. In fact, the results suggested that those who supplemented with fish oil had younger brains than those who did not.

Source: American Journal of Clin Nutrition, 2005.
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4 grams a day here
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not sure how much i take but i know its a big ass pill, everyday
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Is there just a supplement saying "fish oil" or are there different types of fish oil?
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Originally Posted by ABreece
4 grams a day here

Really? That may be a little more than you need. I stick with 1 a day, plus I try to eat fish at least 2 times a week.
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Originally Posted by FiftyFive
not sure how much i take but i know its a big ass pill, everyday

Probably 1000 mg which is 1 gram.
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Originally Posted by anothercls
Is there just a supplement saying "fish oil" or are there different types of fish oil?
There are different types but most are fads to the generic. For example there is fish oil which is treated so it does not smell like...fish and it costs double or triple. I dont buy that, it's not like you chew the pill to smell like fish for hours. Make sure it's fish oil with Omega 3 fatty acids.
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Originally Posted by anothercls
Is there just a supplement saying "fish oil" or are there different types of fish oil?
http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id=44
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hmmmm, well, I take 1 pill in the morning and one at night.... Ummm, yeah, then I take ..... hmmm...

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Originally Posted by gavriil
Really? That may be a little more than you need. I stick with 1 a day, plus I try to eat fish at least 2 times a week.
Some people I've talked to shoot for 8 grams/day.
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I guess it's time to start taking yet another pill.
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I saw an ad for iceland health and they want $50 for a bottle of Omega 3. Can someone lead me in a direction of a good one that is not gonna put a hole in my walet?

Is the link above a trustworthy source?
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All the mercury in that fish oil does wonders for you too.
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All the mercury in that fish oil does wonders for you too.
Fuck, I guess I should scratch that off my list
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cod liver oil is where its at
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Originally Posted by esCarbonie
cod liver oil is where its at
What's next?

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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
I saw an ad for iceland health and they want $50 for a bottle of Omega 3. Can someone lead me in a direction of a good one that is not gonna put a hole in my walet?

Is the link above a trustworthy source?
I order almost all of my supplements from 1fast400/BulkNutrition.
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I wonder if flax seed oil gives the same IQ boosting benefits as fish oil - flax seed oil has all the EFAs as fish oil does, but obviously it's not EXACTLY the same.
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Originally Posted by Adam_Schwartz
I wonder if flax seed oil gives the same IQ boosting benefits as fish oil - flax seed oil has all the EFAs as fish oil does, but obviously it's not EXACTLY the same.
Fish oil gives different types of EFAs, so i doubt it.

The general consensus is if you have to pick one or the other, fish oil is the way to go.
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Originally Posted by ABreece
Fish oil gives different types of EFAs, so i doubt it.

The general consensus is if you have to pick one or the other, fish oil is the way to go.
I see - I know flax seed oil gives Omega 3/6/9, which is a pretty big chunk of the EFA requirements. Maybe I will pick up some fish oil caps to supplement my flax seed oil - doubt it would hurt.
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Originally Posted by Adam_Schwartz
I see - I know flax seed oil gives Omega 3/6/9, which is a pretty big chunk of the EFA requirements. Maybe I will pick up some fish oil caps to supplement my flax seed oil - doubt it would hurt.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/efa.htm
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/md11.htm
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Thanks for the links - after reading the first link, it appears that flax seed oil might be a better option than fish oil in certain resepcts, for instance it contains Omega 6 and fish oil does not, as well as having more Omega 3 than fish oil does. I would like to read if the body differentiates between EFAs coming from fish or seeds. I am not trying to start some fish oil VS flax seed oil battle, but just curious now that you showed me those links. The important thing is that we all get our EFAs one way or another.
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Originally Posted by Adam_Schwartz
Thanks for the links - after reading the first link, it appears that flax seed oil might be a better option than fish oil in certain resepcts, for instance it contains Omega 6 and fish oil does not, as well as having more Omega 3 than fish oil does. I would like to read if the body differentiates between EFAs coming from fish or seeds. I am not trying to start some fish oil VS flax seed oil battle, but just curious now that you showed me those links. The important thing is that we all get our EFAs one way or another.
No problem.

In short, EFAs get converted to DHA. DHA is what does us a ton of good. Very little of the EFAs in flax seed oil get converted to DHA, whereas a large amount of fish oil's EFAs becomes DHA.

From the second link:

Since our modern diet typically is high in omega-6 fatty acids and low in omega-3 acids, it may prudent to increase our consumption of foods that contain a higher amount of omega-3 fatty acids. The richest source of omega-3 fatty acids is fish oil from cold water fish.
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Breece, can you comment on the Mercury levels?
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
Breece, can you comment on the Mercury levels?
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/fis...ements/AN00797

Cliff notes: 404 Mercury not found
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Originally Posted by ABreece
No problem.

In short, EFAs get converted to DHA. DHA is what does us a ton of good. Very little of the EFAs in flax seed oil get converted to DHA, whereas a large amount of fish oil's EFAs becomes DHA.

From the second link:
Ah, very interesting. Thanks again dude!
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Originally Posted by ABreece
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/fis...ements/AN00797

Cliff notes: 404 Mercury not found
Cool, thanks man
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http://www.berkeleywellness.com/html/ds/dsFishOil.php

If fish oil is so great, why shouldn’t everyone take supplements?

• The decreased ability of the blood to clot, which helps prevent heart attacks, has a negative side, notably an increased risk of hemorrhagic stroke. People with bleeding disorders, those taking anticoagulants, and those with uncontrolled hypertension should not take fish oil supplements.

• Large doses of fish oil may suppress the immune system. Thus, supplements may be risky for those with weakened immune systems. What’s a "large dose"? One definition is 3 grams or more a day, but no one really knows what the cutoff point is.

• Large doses can increase glucose levels in people with diabetes.

• Large doses can cause nausea, diarrhea, belching, and a bad taste in the mouth.

• The supplements may contain contaminants and may not contain the labeled dose. A recent test by Consumer Reports of top-selling supplements was reassuring on both counts, even for the least expensive brands, but that doesn’t mean that the next batches will be okay—or that other brands on the market are. Last year a test by ConsumerLab.com found no detectable levels of mercury in 20 fish-oil supplements, but did find that some brands didn’t contain the labeled amounts of omega-3s.
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That's why you don't take ridiculous amounts of it.
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So is there a general rule for how much fish oil someone should take based on their weight/age, etc? I would like to get some caps for my wife, but don't truly know how much she should be taking.
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Originally Posted by Adam_Schwartz
So is there a general rule for how much fish oil someone should take based on their weight/age, etc? I would like to get some caps for my wife, but don't truly know how much she should be taking.

I take 1000mg a day. One pill, that's it.
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Thanks for the feedback gavriil
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sorry for the bump...but I'm looking into getting some Fish Oil as well

So I was wondering, do you take it once a day, EVERY day? Are you supposed to cycle it at all, or anything for that matter? Thanks.
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flax seed oil is a better substitute, has omega 3's and omega 6's, plus no mercury

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Originally Posted by doopstr
All the mercury in that fish oil does wonders for you too.

controversial studies, like farm raised salmon. Pretty much based on what my doctor says is if you dont eat fish like everyday you'll be fine. Also, if you eat wild caught deep sea fish like sea bass, etc. you have "zero" risk. The benefits clearly outweight the negatives. The omega 3s are just too good for you. Im not convinced about the raising IQ, etc. but my parents did tell me to eat lots of fish to make my smart when growing up. ....regardless i try to eat fish at least 1-2 a week (as long as its fresh). I dont really like those pills, though as a young child i took cod fish oil (liquid)....HORRIBLE!!!!
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This finding might be attributable to a selection bias built into the study. More intelligent people may be more engaged in learning new things and be more apt to keep abreast of the latest trends in nutrition. If true they would therefore be more likely to take fish oil supplements. It doesn't mean that fish oil necessarily preserves or enhances mental function.
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I'm bumping this again...

I went and bought the Nature Made Fish Maximum Strength Fish Oil from Costco today. Its recommended usage is 1-2 pills two times daily with a meal. When looking at the supplement facts, it says that the serving size is 2 softgels, and the fish oil concentrate = 2400mg, or 1200mg/pill. If you go by their usage, that would be 2-4 pills a day, coming to 2400-4800mg. But after reading what a few of you said, it seems like only 1-2g a day would be sufficient. What would you recommend? Also, if I DO decide to take 2 or more pills a day, should I do 1/2 in the morning, and 1/2 at night; or all at once? Thanks.


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