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Old 08-01-2005, 09:56 AM
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Anyone have any good swimming exercises or data?

Like what strokes work the most muscles etc? I swim 3-4 days a week and do about 10-20 laps each workout, but all I really do is the breast stroke and freestyle. I was wondering if there was any data out there on swimming exercises or the such.
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if you want a leg workout: breaststroke with a kickboard
if you want a shoulder/back workout: butterfly
otherwise just keep swimming, I cant think of a better all around workout.
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Originally Posted by virus7
if you want a leg workout: breaststroke with a kickboard
if you want a shoulder/back workout: butterfly
otherwise just keep swimming, I cant think of a better all around workout.
How far can you really swim butterfly? I went to junior nationals my junior year in high school and when I would do a 400 Fly; I wanted to die afterwards.....long distance butterfly for exercise is unrealistic.

You will get a good workout doing freestyle. If you want to work your arms and shoulders more, make a conscious attempt to lengthen your stroke and dig deeper. You want to really feel the water you are pulling.

For legs, breastroke is w/o a doubt the best. I never really bought into using kickboards for training, but more for technique development. If you are doing breastroke properly, you should use 80% leg 20% arms.

I would keep with what you are doing, make your stroke more efficient as I described above, and swim DISTANCE. Yardage is the key to all good swimming. At my peak training, I would swim 12-14000 yards a day.
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If you want more guidance on competative swimming techniques, do a search for articles/books written by Doc Councilman. He was a coach for the Indiana University's men's swimming team and is arguably the best swimming coach ever. I've read a lot of his stuff and he really knows what he is talking about.

He led Indiana University to 20 consecutive Big Ten swimming titles. His teams won six straight national championships. He coached 48 Olympians. nuff said
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Originally Posted by SSN_FT1(SS/DV)
If you want more guidance on competative swimming techniques, do a search for articles/books written by Doc Councilman. He was a coach for the Indiana University's men's swimming team and is arguably the best swimming coach ever. I've read a lot of his stuff and he really knows what he is talking about.

He led Indiana University to 20 consecutive Big Ten swimming titles. His teams won six straight national championships. He coached 48 Olympians. nuff said
Excuse the but a guy named Doc Councilman turned out to be a swimming coach?
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Swim, repeat. Go as long as you can w/o drowing.

Seriously, most swim plans are sort of like a running plan in water. Depends on what you are training for. I trained just to be able to swim a mile so I was only doing distance. If you want hardcore cardio, you can do sprints and take rest between like doing laps on track.
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back in high school i used to swim like 3-4 miles a day... i say its best to use a combination of all of the 4 major strokes to get a good workout (fly back breast free).. sadly i cant swim here at riverside, cause a) UCRs pool is only open from 12pm till 3pm and i have class then b) the pool at my apartment is extremely TINY and c) the public pools around here for some reason dont do lap swimming
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yea, i'm not looking for anything real intense, I just hate cardio but enjoy swimming and figure I'd do that before riding a bike or running anyday
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i want to get back into swimming.. although i found it odd that when i was swimming i didnt lose any weight at all.. mustve been all the crap i ate, wish i ate healthier back when i was swimming so i couldve lost alot of weight and then end up with a body like michael phelps
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Try incorporating sprints. 50 yard sprints with 10 sec. rest in between, 100 with 20 sec. rest, 200 with 30 sec rest. Try to do between 5 to 10 sprints. That should help build your cardio. For a leg workout I will do 100- 200 with just the kick board.
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Originally Posted by Gixxster
Try incorporating sprints. 50 yard sprints with 10 sec. rest in between, 100 with 20 sec. rest, 200 with 30 sec rest. Try to do between 5 to 10 sprints. That should help build your cardio. For a leg workout I will do 100- 200 with just the kick board.
This is a good idea^^^^

The way a good majority of swimming workouts work is you do a set of say 10 X 50yds on :50 let's say.....the way this works is you swim the 50 yards and then however much time you have left out of the :50 is your rest period.

So say you swim the 50 yds in :40...then you rest :10 and do the next one. Obviously very your time to make it obtainable and this will build both speed and endurance.
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Sorry...missed my edit window, but my method differs from Gixxster's due to the fact that if you feel tired and take a 50 slow, you will suffer by not having as much rest. If you do a straight :10 rest every time, you have the opportunity to slack towards the end of the set.
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Originally Posted by SSN_FT1(SS/DV)
Sorry...missed my edit window, but my method differs from Gixxster's due to the fact that if you feel tired and take a 50 slow, you will suffer by not having as much rest. If you do a straight :10 rest every time, you have the opportunity to slack towards the end of the set.
Actually the way your talking about is what I was trying to explain. This way if you go slow then you don't have a long recovery and you have to start on the next one right away. Start off with a reasonable time so that you don't burn out when first starting this workout.
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Originally Posted by Gixxster
Actually the way your talking about is what I was trying to explain. This way if you go slow then you don't have a long recovery and you have to start on the next one right away. Start off with a reasonable time so that you don't burn out when first starting this workout.
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