Inspire08

Same here, I received a call from my SA and the parts came in today. Made an appt. next week, parts came in a lot sooner than expected. My SA did say only few parts came in for the TL. Are they replacing both driver and passenger airbags or just the driver side only?

vbgregg

only the driver's side

Inspire08

I thought they are replacing both, that one part will be available end of summer and the other part is late winter. Do you mind sharing your Invoice receipt or Repair Order. Thanks

lbotez

I think it depends on what takata airbags you have in your car. My dealer told me my TL only needed to have the driver airbag inflator replaced.

SilverJ

good to hear some of you are getting it repaired. 2 questions. Why wouldn't they repair all the airbags in the car ? Dont they have the same inflators throughout the car ?
And for those of you that had the repair, how long did u have to wait ? Me dealer is making me feel I will be out of a car until October, as there are 100's of people ahead of me and so far they have only gotten a handful of inflators.

vbgregg

We had the airbag inflator replaced on both our 2013 RDX and our 2014 TL. In both cases, it was only the driver-side unit. On the TL, the part number is listed as 77810-TX6-A80ZA (and the count is 1).

I assume that the inflators for the other airbags in the car are different, and presumably not a problem (or at least not yet known to be a problem).

We were also told "summer" but that Acura often provided fixes before the originally stated time. We waited 2.5 months for our TL (and 2 months for our RDX). They repair these in the order that the customers came in to have a service order written up. We were the first at our dealer, so we were the first to get the new parts. Being first means that no matter how few of the new parts were shipped, we were able to get one. If there are hundreds in front of you, I don't know how long it might take.

Gregg

real_mckoy

I'm in North Jersey as well have not heard anything from my dealer hopefully soon.

akshay5762

Just got my inflator replaced today. Not sure where I was in line in terms of getting the part but parts have started coming in NC.

Kain1009

Same with my dealer.. They had very few parts but it was because I was one of the first so I was one of the first to get it replaced . Also it only took about 45min including the multipoint inspection and car wash

akshay5762

Nissan recalls 3.5 million vehicles over airbag sensor

SilverJ

Great to know the 2016 Maxima I am driving to avoid driving my TL that has a defective airbag, ALSO has a defective airbag. Sigh.

JT4

Back in March I was told (like most of us) that best case scenario was mid to late August, so it's great to hear that the TL parts are already hitting the dealers. Hopefully over the next 4 to 6 weeks most of us will have our cars repaired which will be way ahead of schedule.

I just renewed my rental contract this weekend, so hopefully my TL will be repaired before I have to renew it again.. They can have their brand new Altima back, I'll gladly take my 5 yr old TL over it any day!

JT4

Great, so the Altima rental I'm driving is being recalled for an different airbag issue...This is nuts..

nomocars23

Cars are starting to stack up at my local dealership hopefully I'll starting seeing these cars rotate out.

FallenTSX

And here I thought it was an Acura car meet!!

lbotez

It is! Just no people. Only cars.

Velocity350

Back in my TL! Dealer called last week, scheduled my appointment to replace the inflator. Turned in my rental and it only took about 45 minutes. Glad it didn't take all summer. Hopefully everyone else's gets fixed soon. BTW I live in Ohio.

ucf_bronco

iTrader: (1)

^^^That's crazy. Here I am in hot and humid FL with a 2010 model and still waiting. Oh well, the TL will stay parked and I'll keep racking up miles on the rental.

emanon256

I never heard back, so I called late yesterday, they are too busy to service my car. They said since I have a rental I am last in line for a repair since I have a car to drive, and to hang tight and they should call me in a week or so. Seems really odd that they would rater continue to pay for a rental than fix the car, especially since the part came in last Friday. There is a new service manager, the old one was really nice, I am no so sure about the new one.

Inspire08

I'm so glad I got my car back. The Serv. Dir. was right that I was the first one to get the Inflator replaced for the TL. About 30 plus on his list (TL only). He did mentioned that the next batch he will get is for used car, so they can move their inventory. Well after 81 days in a rental car my total bill thru Enterprise was ($3100 including all taxes and fees / total mileage 4651). The bill was broke down month to month and were sent to Acura. They also replaced the pair of engine hood shocks.

87LtdT

I am very satisfied with the Acura air bag recall experience. Got a letter advising my car was included on 29 Mar '16. I called Greenwood, IN Acura dealer same day and a free rental was immediately offered during the call..."until they get the new parts" which they estimated to be mid-summer. Left our Acura in our garage, drove other car to the dealer (our first ever visit to any Acura facility), got the paperwork and took it 2 blocks to Enterprise where we chose the vehicle we wanted...a 281 mile Malibu LT. Got a call last Friday advising the parts required were in (about 5 weeks from initial notice)...scheduled the car to be picked by flatbed truck and taken to dealer 40 miles away. That was done Monday and we returned the rental (Acura cost $1360 plus flatbed transport) and picked up our car yesterday. They had also swept the interior and washed it for us. Pretty smooth.


Contrast that with same recall on Dodge truck. No offer of rental car...just hope you don't get killed while waiting on parts. Not so customer friendly huh!!

JT4

Interesting, I was told that people with rentals would get their TL's fixed first because Acura wants to stop paying the rental charges as soon as possible.

emanon256

I called ACR again since my dealer is dragging their feet. They called my dealer and called me back last night. They said they spoke to someone at my dealership and that what really happend was they never moved or started my car and that the battery is dead and won't take a charge and that the rotors are completely rusted over. They are trying to figure out what to do and the manager is out. The ACR guy said he authorized them to replace the battery and machine the rotors and that once done my car should be as good as new. I asked why they didn't move it when they said they would and he said he didn't know. I also asked if there could be any other damage and he said no. I then mentioned that the tires could get a flat spots and he said that doesn't happen with modern tires. The ACR guy said he guarantees it will be ready for pick up this afternoon. We will see if it really happens. I am quite pissed at this point and the ACR guy didn't seem to care.

hadokenuh

I think they took care of you pretty well. What else do you want? Fix the problems that have not been diagnosed? The only thing I would push for is a new set of rotors but please realize it's probably borderline unacceptable.

potmilkz

you should not have left it with acura.. just saying... anyone that thinks that they are really going to take care of your car is living in a fantasy.. car will sit there in the sun or in the rain and will get zero attention.

i wont be surprised if you see small damages on your car once you get it back.. a couple of bird droppings over a period of time can really eat through the paint.

EE4Life

Airbag Inflator Recall Update 5/4/2016

http://www.kaltura.com/index.php/ext...823/embed/auto

lbotez

what a load of whooie... They've only sent out 39,100 inflators so far.

70,000 expected in May
140,000 expected in June
175,000 expected in July

That adds up to 385,000. He mentions more after July.

I'm assuming he's referring to both Honda and Acura. There are millions of these inflators that have to be replaced.

I'm afraid you guys that got your inflators replaced were just lucky to get yours because, as the man says, you acted quickly. Like 3 months ago for some of you.

Seems like my dealer may be right. "See you in Sept." Meh

Now that we know there are more recalls to come (millions more), maybe I'll have this rental until the end of the year....


Oh and the bit about servicing customers' cars before their own used cars they need to sell... what a laugh. We all know that's not true.

nomocars23

I'll give you a heads up when the used car I was looking to buy is repaired, but, I think they are servicing owned vehicles (in the order they contacted the dealer) before, used vehicles for sale. Now, I'm not sure where new vehicles sitting on the lot fit in with this..... but I don't think they video was 100% bull crap.

5 Acuras

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Takata airbag recall expansion May 2016

lbotez

I only wrote that because several people on here have reported that the recalls are VIN-specific and have said that many were for vehicles being sold by Acura.

For example, I just looked up a vehicle being sold by my dealer Zimbrick.

Used Vehicles For Sale | WI Acura dealer | Serving Madison Wisconsin | Zimbrick Acura


a 2012 RDX.... so I checked the CarFAX. Says no recalls not done. Vin # is 5J8TB1H58CA004150

Then I check the VIN at safer car.gov for recalls. Says 1 recall, for Driver's Frontal Air Bag Inflator... issued Feb 3, 2016.

So sounds like it got fixed. Oh. There must be no one in Madison, WI with a recalled RDX then.

Oddly enough, I asked the Enterprise guy (when I returned there the other day to get a new 30-day contract) how many cars they rented out to Acura for the recall: he said around 50. But then he volunteered that the Enterprise further down the road had rented out 100 cars... and that didn't include any of the other Enterprises around town.

Now I know that my dealer has to stay in business; I'm just saying that what's on those videos from Honda/Acura is a bit laughable at times.

crxb

U.S. Department of Transportation expands and accelerates Takata air bag inflator recall to protect American drivers and passengers | National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA)

U.S. Department of Transportation expands and accelerates Takata air bag inflator recall to protect American drivers and passengers

Additional Resources
Watch video of the announcement on NHTSA's SaferCarTV channel (conference starts at 10:13 mark)
NHTSA 13-16
Wednesday, May 4, 2016
Contact: Bryan Thomas, 202-366-9550, Public.Affairs@dot.gov

NHTSA action phases in recall of additional 35-40 million inflators through 2019

WASHINGTON – The United States Department of Transportation’s National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is expanding and accelerating the recall of Takata air bag inflators. The decision follows the agency’s confirmation of the root cause behind the inflators’ propensity to rupture. Ruptures of the Takata inflators have been tied to ten deaths and more than 100 injuries in the United States.

Under the Amended Consent Order issued to Takata this week, the company is required to make a series of safety defect decisions that will support vehicle manufacturer recall campaigns of an additional estimated 35-40 million inflators, adding to the already 28.8 million inflators previously recalled. These expansions are planned to take place in phases between May 2016 and December 2019. The expansions mean that all Takata ammonium nitrate-based propellant driver and passenger frontal air bag inflators without a chemical drying agent, also known as a desiccant, will be recalled.

“Today’s action is a significant step in the U.S. Department of Transportation’s aggressive oversight of Takata on behalf of drivers and passengers across America,” said Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx. “The acceleration of this recall is based on scientific evidence and will protect all Americans from air bag inflators that may become unsafe.”

The five recall phases are based on prioritization of risk, determined by the age of the inflators and exposure to high humidity and fluctuating high temperatures that accelerate the degradation of the chemical propellant.

“NHTSA’s aggressive actions in 2015 means this recall is already a year ahead of where it would have been if the agency had waited for this research,” said NHTSA Administrator Mark Rosekind. “As a result, all of the most dangerous inflators responsible for the deaths and injuries are already under recall.”

NHTSA and its independent expert reviewed the findings of three independent investigations into the Takata air bag ruptures and confirmed the findings on the root cause of inflator ruptures. A combination of time, environmental moisture and fluctuating high temperatures contribute to the degradation of the ammonium nitrate propellant in the inflators. Such degradation can cause the propellant to burn too quickly, rupturing the inflator module and sending shrapnel through the air bag and into the vehicle occupants.

“The science clearly shows that these inflators become unsafe over time, faster when exposed to humidity and variations of temperature,” Rosekind added. “This recall schedule ensures the inflators will be recalled and replaced before they become dangerous, giving vehicle owners sufficient time to have them replaced before they pose a danger to vehicle occupants. NHTSA will continue to evaluate all available research and will act quickly to protect safety.”

NHTSA will also consult with affected vehicle manufacturers before revising the Coordinated Remedy Order that governs the accelerated program to obtain and install replacement inflators. The Coordinated Remedy Program will continue to ensure that replacement inflators will be made available to highest-risk vehicles first. The revised Coordinated Remedy Program, to be announced this summer, will detail the updated vehicle prioritization schedule and the schedule by which manufacturers are required to procure sufficient supply of replacement parts to conduct the required recall repairs.

This is the largest and most complex safety recall in U.S. history. Under the Coordinated Remedy Program, NHTSA and manufacturers have committed to seek a 100 percent recall completion rate.

“Everyone plays a role in making sure that this recall is completed quickly and safely, including manufacturers, suppliers and vehicle owners themselves,” Rosekind said. “People who receive notification that there is a remedy available for their vehicle should act immediately to have their inflator fixed. All vehicle owners should regularly check SaferCar.gov for information about any open safety recall on their vehicle and what they can do to have it fixed free of charge.”

The recall expansion does not include inflators that include a chemical desiccant that absorbs moisture. There have been no reported ruptures of the desiccated inflators due to propellant degradation. Under the Amended Consent Order, Takata is required to redirect its research toward the safety of the desiccated inflators. Absent proof that the desiccated inflators are safe, Takata will be required to recall them under the November 2015 Consent Order.

In 2015, NHTSA imposed the largest civil penalty in its history for Takata’s violations of the Motor Vehicle Safety Act, and for the first time used its authority to accelerate recall repairs to millions of affected vehicles. NHTSA also appointed an Independent Monitor to assess, track and report the company’s compliance with the Consent Order and to oversee the Coordinated Remedy Program.

Consumers can find complete information about the Takata air bag inflator recall here.

crxb

NHTSA | Recalls Spotlight: Takata Air Bags Recalls

Clink on the link above to read the pdf files mentioned below:


Related Documents

2016
May 4
Amendment to November 3, 2015 Consent Order (PDF 492 KB)

Expert Report of Harold R. Blomquist, Ph.D. (PDF 106 KB)

Fact Sheet: May 2016 Takata Recall Expansion (PDF 113 KB)

Fact Sheet: NHTSA Actions to Accelerate the Takata Remedy (PDF 123 KB)

Fact Sheet: Takata Recall History and Key Terms (PDF 106 KB)

crxb

NHTSA | Recalls Spotlight: Takata Air Bags Recalls

watch the video from today from nhtsa about the yet again expansion of the recall

lbotez

yeah. Two more deaths in Malaysia... they said 10 deaths in the US (but left out the woman who became paraplegic and then died last month).... that makes 13 at least.

They say in the video most of the new recall is for passenger side airbag inflators.

What a nightmare! Watch that video.

It will take until 2019 to replace all these inflators, according to CNN Money
http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/04/news...airbag-recall/

crxb

video he mentions:

TIME, humidity, temp cycles

so far for non-desiccated airbags


"may" after further study include desiccated airbags

FallenTSX

So, the FRONT PASSENGER air bag will also need to be replaced?

-DeL

lbotez

Yeah, front passenger. LOL! From what I could see online, they won't tell us which cars are affected for awhile....

Probably ALL the Takata bags will end up having to be replaced....

crxb

I'm no scientist but if you read this:

Takata Recalling Up to 40 Million Airbag Inflators [UPDATED] - News - Car and Driver | Car and Driver Blog

UPDATE 5/4/16, 1:00 p.m.: NHTSA has announced that Takata will recall between 35 million and 40 million additional front-airbag inflators as part of an amended consent order between the Japanese supplier and the agency. All of the inflators in question are non-desiccated, which means they do not have a drying agent to compensate for humidity. So far, NHTSA says only the non-desiccated ammonium-nitrate inflators have been rupturing. Takata now has to prove that the desiccated inflators are safe or else it will be forced to recall those, as well. This expanded recall, which will be conducted in phases, is expected to last until December 2019. Exact car models have not been identified.

If you thought your car was safe from shrapnel-shooting airbags, it may not be after Takata adds at least 35 million more inflators to its recall campaign of defective front and side airbags.

According to the Wall Street Journal, Takata and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration may announce the expansion as early as this week. The actual number could be far higher, although since many cars have more than one Takata inflator under recall, it may not necessarily equate to 35 million more cars. Currently, there are more than 24 million cars from 24 brands under recall primarily for driver and passenger frontal airbags, along with a small fraction for side airbags, that can rupture upon deployment and cause the inflator’s metal casing to cut into a person’s face. A total of 11 people have died, including 10 in the U.S., and all but one have been in Honda vehicles.

Automakers Find Three Root Causes for Defective Takata Airbags
Takata May Quadruple Airbag Recall, Financial Outlook In Danger
Massive Takata Airbag Recall: Everything You Need to Know
A total of 28.8 million airbag inflators have been recalled in the U.S., and NHTSA estimates there are about 85 million using the problematic ammonium-nitrate compound that have not been recalled. Earlier this week, Takata earmarked another $189 million to cover recall-related costs. The company had already booked $567 million in charges through its fiscal year ending March 31. Check back for more updates as we learn more.

crxb

I think takata should turn this into some thing we could actually use

like the "hail protector" I have seen mentioned the news

- external airbag - inflates to protect the car from hail

https://www.hailprotector.com

on the news the inventor said he had trouble meeting demand - maybe takata could help with production

FallenTSX

HAHA .. I just got it back and now .. I'll have to return it again .. don't know when that will be!! AWESOME!!

-DeL