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Old 08-21-2004, 11:53 PM
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Where to go from here??

I was in Chicago for a seminar this past week, and I met this girl named Nicky. She is amazing. I hung out with her basically every night I was there, and she is just absolutely great. Nice, funny, kind, intelligent, beautiful... everything I had dreamed of. I was simply captured by her personality.

But the fact that I am 3 years younger than her might be an issue, because she referred to me as a little brother -- maybe she's a bit conservative? Last night was the final night I stayed in Chicago, and the last time I hung out with her. So I told her straight up that I really liked her and whatnot. Well, she didn't really say much to me... I don't know what to make of it.

She told me to come down to visit her again soon, however, or that she will come up to visit me. She lives in Chicago and I live in SE Michigan -- about 4-5 hours away.



I don't know what to do -- I really like her and hope that something can happen, but she hasn't really shown me any signs, except that she wants to hang out again, and we're 4-5 hours apart, and I'm younger than her.

Tell me what to do, guys? Thanks.
Old 08-22-2004, 12:21 AM
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First of all, that was pretty lame on the "energy". I'll give you credit for being modest. Three years younger means nothing if you are 30. It means a lot more if you are 16. My guess is that you are crushing...good luck.
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i would suggest a wet 100 shot to make that 4-5 hour trip a 2-3 hr trip
Old 08-22-2004, 01:35 AM
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When you're past 22, a few years in age difference shouldn't really be that big a deal. Example: I'm almost 20, Kyle is 24. Not a problem.
Take a road trip to Chicago, hang out with her. See where it goes from there. If there's some sort of chemistry, then you'll find a way to work out the long distance thing.
You've got nothing to lose. If you like her, I say go for it.
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i dunno man, if she didnt have a response when u put it in her like that then i would probably say she wasnt interested in you like that...plus she referred to you as "little brother"

but she did invite you to hang out again, and she offered to come visit which is a plus...just make sure she wasnt saying those things to be nice..

you coud have caught her completely off guard when u told her how u felt...which i have done before..i say try gettin in touch with her for a visit and see what happens...good luck bro
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what were you expecting??? a marriage proposal?? maybe she is the kind of girl who needs to hang out and be friends first. Not every person is looking for another person. Try being friends with her first and forget about trying to have a romantic relationship with her right now...you will be suprised at where it will lead you....good luck man!
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yeah if she didnt reciprocate the feelings and called you little brother, i dont see a good outcome
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I have one thing to say.... that drive sucks. The distance causes problems. If I were you, I wouldnt even start with a long distance relationship. Ok, maybe I had three things to say....
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Originally Posted by DamirsGirl
I have one thing to say.... that drive sucks. The distance causes problems. If I were you, I wouldnt even start with a long distance relationship. Ok, maybe I had three things to say....
long distance relationships work only if two people are committed to being together through the good and bad...however I wouldn't recommend starting out that way.
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Im committed, definatly. But... the whole situation just begins to suck. There are times you wanna go see your bf/gf and you just cant. The only time you can visit is when you have the money to spend on gas, not to mention the time to drive all that way. I always end up racing back home Sunday night so I can get a few hours sleep before I gotta get up for work in the A.M. Ive been in a long distance relationship for so long Im just used to it now. It would be great if we lived near eachother! *Sigh
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Well, I got in touch with her today. And it doesn't sound like she was saying those things just to be nice. I'm hoping that Underpaid is right.

I'm not really used to the whole dating scene. I'm always busy with my car club, school, fraternity and friends, and I honestly haven't had a serious relationship and never really had the desire to get into one. So any advice you guys give me, it's greatly appreciated.

I'm not saying that I want a serious relationship with her now. The distance is a big issue, and I know it's too early to tell anything right now -- I just want to see her again and hang out, get to know her better. I was just asking for advice, since I'm a novice in this area. Thanks.
Old 08-22-2004, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
I was in Chicago for a seminar this past week, and I met this girl named Nicky. She is amazing. I hung out with her basically every night I was there, and she is just absolutely great. Nice, funny, kind, intelligent, beautiful... everything I had dreamed of. I was simply captured by her personality.

But the fact that I am 3 years younger than her might be an issue, because she referred to me as a little brother -- maybe she's a bit conservative? Last night was the final night I stayed in Chicago, and the last time I hung out with her. So I told her straight up that I really liked her and whatnot. Well, she didn't really say much to me... I don't know what to make of it.

She told me to come down to visit her again soon, however, or that she will come up to
visit me. She lives in Chicago and I live in SE Michigan -- about 4-5 hours away.

I don't know what to do -- I really like her and hope that something can happen, but she hasn't really shown me any signs, except that she wants to hang out again, and we're 4-5 hours apart, and I'm younger than her.

Tell me what to do, guys? Thanks.
Was surfing tickle.com and now I get these bulk emails weekly by this guy, they are pretty interesting though.

From David DeAngelo

How To Lose A Girl Fast
.........4) Tell Her How You "Feel" About Her Early On

This might be one of my favorites.

I'm starting to think that us guys must come stock
with a mechanism that actually compels us to open
our BIG FAT MOUTHS and screw things up with only the
BEST women.

I'll call this the "Feeling Confessor" mechanism.
It is triggered by strong feelings of attraction and
emotion toward an unusually attractive woman.

I've talked to A LOT of attractive women in my
life. And they all have one similar experience to
share...

For some UNKNOWN and UNGODLY reason, men just seem
to LOVE telling SUPER HOT women how they FEEL within
the first couple of dates.

And I also get a lot of emails from men, as you
might realize.

One of the common emails I get goes a little something
like this:

"David, I met this unbelievably hot girl... she's
smart, interesting, successful... everything seemed
to be going well... so I decided to tell her how I
felt... and for some reason she said that she needs
some "space" and some "time to be alone"... I don't
get it..."

Again, when you do this you're making all kinds
of huge mistakes... and basically doing everything
you can to LOSE her.


5) Keep Telling Her How You Feel When She Needs Space

And if the last example wasn't painful enough,
most guys usually like to use this final "nail in
the coffin" technique as well...

Here's the situation:

You've met a girl you really like. Maybe you've
gone out with her a few times. Doesn't matter.

You do all the things you can think of to SCREW
IT UP, and you finally succeed.

You prove to her that you just don't get it, and
you don't know how to handle a woman like her.

So she says "I need some space" or "I need some
time to myself".

And what do most guys do?

Of course. They KEEP telling her how they feel.

And they do it in 100 annoying ways.

The thought most guys have is "If she only understood
how I REALLY FEEL ABOUT HER, then she would LOVE ME".

It's painful just typing the words.

You could probably be in there like swimwear, just get the "she could be the one" idea out of your head, don't smother her and act desperate. Play it cool, especially with the distance thing. Play on.
Old 08-22-2004, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 2003type-s6
How To Lose A Girl Fast
.........4) Tell Her How You "Feel" About Her Early On
I have to admit, this is true for both men and women.

The best way in a new relationship for it to evolve nicely is to SHOW in little ways that you are interested. Be patient in courting her. A guy who immediately professes his liking/attraction within the first 3 dates gives an impression that he is a type of person whose feelings can easily change (girl's translation: Warning! If he can get infatuated easily, then he can also lose interest immediately).

Express your feelings verbally some time later on once you feel that she is really warming up to you.
Old 08-22-2004, 11:16 PM
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2003type-s6 --

You got the rest of that article? Post it up, because I want to read it.
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Originally Posted by DamirsGirl
Im committed, definatly. But... the whole situation just begins to suck. There are times you wanna go see your bf/gf and you just cant. The only time you can visit is when you have the money to spend on gas, not to mention the time to drive all that way. I always end up racing back home Sunday night so I can get a few hours sleep before I gotta get up for work in the A.M. Ive been in a long distance relationship for so long Im just used to it now. It would be great if we lived near eachother! *Sigh
Dark and I went from seeing each other everyday when we lived in the same city and worked at the same hospital to living 300 miles apart and seeing each other on the average of once a month...I definitely know how you feel, there are times when I want to see him so bad..and actually I did drive up there on the spur of the moment and showed up at his door at 1 am...it was nice to know that I can trust him enough to do that without having to think about what I am going to find when I get there. And fortunately for me I work nights so that gives me the luxury of staying with him a little longer before I have to go home...
Old 08-23-2004, 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkSithGirl
Dark and I went from seeing each other everyday when we lived in the same city and worked at the same hospital to living 300 miles apart and seeing each other on the average of once a month...I definitely know how you feel, there are times when I want to see him so bad..and actually I did drive up there on the spur of the moment and showed up at his door at 1 am...it was nice to know that I can trust him enough to do that without having to think about what I am going to find when I get there. And fortunately for me I work nights so that gives me the luxury of staying with him a little longer before I have to go home...

That sounds nice Its good to see people beating the tremendous odds against LD's. I agree that it does take a lot of dedication and of course trust. Sucks when you can't just drive out to see your other though mine is an ocean away for the time being :'(
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Originally Posted by sasha
I have to admit, this is true for both men and women.

The best way in a new relationship for it to evolve nicely is to SHOW in little ways that you are interested. Be patient in courting her. A guy who immediately professes his liking/attraction within the first 3 dates gives an impression that he is a type of person whose feelings can easily change (girl's translation: Warning! If he can get infatuated easily, then he can also lose interest immediately).

Express your feelings verbally some time later on once you feel that she is really warming up to you.


pot=kettle=black


this coming from a girl who was completely BUCKLED up over me after 1 month.


WARNING: DO NOT TAKE ADVICE FROM THIS GIRL....
Old 08-23-2004, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by TypeSKid
pot=kettle=black


this coming from a girl who was completely BUCKLED up over me after 1 month.


WARNING: DO NOT TAKE ADVICE FROM THIS GIRL....

sometimes I forget you're the reason she found this site sugars
Old 08-23-2004, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by TypeSKid
pot=kettle=black


this coming from a girl who was completely BUCKLED up over me after 1 month.


WARNING: DO NOT TAKE ADVICE FROM THIS GIRL....

And this is coming from the arrogant bastard who can't and won't pay up the debt he promised to pay me, a mere student, 2 months ago?!!! Have some shame.

It's only in your imagination that I was buckled over you!


Old 08-23-2004, 07:49 AM
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whahaahah.... a-cl has turned into a soap opera infront of our eyes...

can't we just get along?
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Originally Posted by sasha

And this is coming from the arrogant bastard who can't and won't pay up the debt he promised to pay me, a mere student, 2 months ago?!!! Have some shame.

It's only in your imagination that I was buckled over you!


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What the hell is going on here??
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Here you go PureAdrenaline, I'll look through my folder and find a couple more too.


HOW TO LOSE A GIRL FAST

Now THIS sounds like an interesting topic, doesn't
it?

Why would you want to know how to LOSE a girl?

Well, I'm going to propose a DANGEROUS IDEA.

I'm going to suggest that you are probably already
an EXPERT in LOSING a girl.

You might even be a "natural" at it.

Most guys are.

But the PROBLEM is that most guys don't UNDERSTAND
why they're so good at LOSING women.

In other words, they walk through the world screwing
up one situation after another, and never realize JUST
HOW GOOD they are at being bad with women.

And they don't realize that by just changing a
few key things they could change their level of success
DRAMATICALLY.

One great way to increase your success in life
is to start REALIZING what you're doing. Once you
actually understand what you're doing and the results
you're triggering, you can CHANGE.

So open your mind. Listen up.

TYPICAL THINGS MEN DO

As you've probably heard me say about a million
times, MEN ARE PREDICTABLE.

In fact, we're PAINFULLY predictable.

We all do basically the same things when we get
into common situations with women... but we don't
even realize it.

I call this the Originality Paradox.

In our desire to be "original" and "unique", us
guys tend to do the SAME THINGS! Said differently,
while you're doing something that seems thoughtful
and original, the attractive woman on the other end
is thinking "He's just like all the other guys".

Ouch.

So why is being predictable so bad?

Look at this formula:

Predictable = BORING.

Boring = NO EMOTIONS.

No Emotions = NO ATTRACTION.

No Attraction = NO GETTIN' SHIZZY WITH THA NIZZY!

One of the VERY BEST ways to lose a girl is to
be PREDICTABLE.

Another huge mistake men make is GIVING AWAY OUR
POWER to women.

I'm not going to go into it, but the reality is
that women are NOT attracted to WEAK men. And I'm
not talking about muscles here.

If you act like a Wuss, you are shooting yourself
in the foot.

Here are a few examples of how us guys act PREDICTABLE,
give away our power, and make about 147 other huge
mistakes with women we've just met:

1) Call Her All The Time

If you like someone, it's logical that you're going
to want to let them know, right?

Well, only if you like the idea of coming across
like a total Jack-Wuss. I just made that up, by the
way. Combination of Jackass and Wuss. Not sure if I
like it, but I'm going to go with it.

Where was I?

Yea, calling her all the time.

Calling all the time is usually triggered by INSECURITY
and NEEDINESS. It sounds like a good idea, but it
almost NEVER is.

A great way to lose a girl before you even have
her. We might call this one "Have Prevention" even.


2) Offer To Take Her Somewhere "Nice"

What do most guys do when they meet a girl that
they "really" like?

Well, they call her up, and they get into a boring
conversation about schools and families and jobs and
100 other painfully boring things... and when they
finally realize that they've been on the phone for
an hour, they realize that they'd better do SOMETHING
soon... because she's starting to talk about having
to go wash her dog...

So what do they do?

They think to themselves "Self, you'd better get
up some nerve and ask her out. Hey! Self! I have a
GREAT idea. Ask her to go out with you to a REALLY
NICE place. She'll be far more likely to want to do
that, and besides, then she'll know that you REALLY
like her...".

And what does this REALLY communicate?

Right, right.

That you have the confidence to just ask her to
spend time with you for NO REASON other than the fact
that you want to... and that you must not be WORTH
spending time with - without some kind of "meal incentive".

Meal Incentive... lol... I crack myself up.

Well, this is one more example of something that
"sounds good" in the moment, but is BAD BAD BAD for
business.


3) Do "Thoughtful" Things From The Beginning

What's better than a nice, thoughtful guy showing
up at the door with flowers and candy for the first
date?

Well, to quote an old Saturday Night Live episode,
"Throwing an entire box of thumb tacks on the floor,
and rolling around in them naked".

Or maybe taking one of those... you know... SERRATED
KNIVES... yea, that's it... and putting it between your
big toe and second toe and slicing back and forth really
fast... and then pouring... you know... HOT SAUCE...
yea, that's it... on the wound!

I hate it when that happens!

But we men do this kind of thing all the time...
because it sure sounds good in the moment.

By the way, don't try the thumb tack thing or the
hot sauce thing UNLESS you're considering purchasing
flowers and candy to bring to a first date. In that
case, please take these measures to prevent yourself
from acting on the uncontrollable urges.

If you come on too strong, you appear just like
every other predictable Wussyboy that has ever tried
to make himself look better by giving gifts and food
and favors in exchange for attention and approval.


4) Tell Her How You "Feel" About Her Early On

This might be one of my favorites.

I'm starting to think that us guys must come stock
with a mechanism that actually compels us to open
our BIG FAT MOUTHS and screw things up with only the
BEST women.

I'll call this the "Feeling Confessor" mechanism.
It is triggered by strong feelings of attraction and
emotion toward an unusually attractive woman.

I've talked to A LOT of attractive women in my
life. And they all have one similar experience to
share...

For some UNKNOWN and UNGODLY reason, men just seem
to LOVE telling SUPER HOT women how they FEEL within
the first couple of dates.

And I also get a lot of emails from men, as you
might realize.

One of the common emails I get goes a little something
like this:

"David, I met this unbelievably hot girl... she's
smart, interesting, successful... everything seemed
to be going well... so I decided to tell her how I
felt... and for some reason she said that she needs
some "space" and some "time to be alone"... I don't
get it..."

Again, when you do this you're making all kinds
of huge mistakes... and basically doing everything
you can to LOSE her.


5) Keep Telling Her How You Feel When She Needs Space

And if the last example wasn't painful enough,
most guys usually like to use this final "nail in
the coffin" technique as well...

Here's the situation:

You've met a girl you really like. Maybe you've
gone out with her a few times. Doesn't matter.

You do all the things you can think of to SCREW
IT UP, and you finally succeed.

You prove to her that you just don't get it, and
you don't know how to handle a woman like her.

So she says "I need some space" or "I need some
time to myself".

And what do most guys do?

Of course. They KEEP telling her how they feel.

And they do it in 100 annoying ways.

The thought most guys have is "If she only understood
how I REALLY FEEL ABOUT HER, then she would LOVE ME".

It's painful just typing the words.

So there you have it.
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more..............


Why do women leave men?

Interesting question, isn't it?

We've all had women leave us...

And we've all been in the situation, wondering
why she was leaving... and willing to do literally
ANYTHING to get her to stay.

Read the following scenarios, and nod your head
silently if you can identify with any of them:

-You met an incredible woman, and you really hit
it off at the beginning. But the more time you
spent with her, the less interested she became...
but the MORE interested you became. You could
feel the balance of power shifting, but there
was nothing you could do about it. Eventually she
just stopped seeing you, but she never explained
why in a way that made any sense...

-You were seeing a woman for several months,
maybe even a year or so. Everything seemed fine.
But then one day she came to you and said "I
don't know how I feel anymore, and I just need
some time ALONE... some time to 'find myself'...
it's not YOU, it's ME"... but her time "alone"
turned into her seeing some other guy that didn't
treat her half as well as you did...

-You were in a serious long-term relationship
that had lasted more than a couple of years, and
you were with the woman you thought you'd spend
the rest of your life with. Sure, you had your
problems, but you knew that you'd always work
through whatever came up, and she would stick
by your side forever. Out of nowhere, she started
acting strange... she started to become more
controlling and angry... no matter how hard you
tried to make her feel better and do nice things,
it only got worse. They she dropped the bomb that
she didn't love you anymore, and she was leaving.
Or maybe she cheated on you, then told you as her
way of breaking up...

...of course, there are a million variations of
these basic situations, but I'll bet you can
identify with one of them.

I can identify with ALL of them. In fact, I've
been through each of them... some more than once.

And I'll tell you... I can remember the PAIN
and the DESPERATION I felt each time.

I mean, it SUCKED. I hated it.

Probably the WORST part of it was the feeling
of POWERLESSNESS that went along with each time.

It's bad enough having the woman you like or
love leave you... but to have to ALSO deal with
the fact that you don't know how to change things,
and there's NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT is
just plain depressing.

Again, if you've been there, nod silently with
me...

Now let's talk about how to AVOID this kind of
thing in the future.


THE PROBLEM ISN'T WHAT YOU THINK

The first thing you must realize in this type
of situation is that the problem you're dealing
with isn't what you think it is.

Most guys naturally assume that the woman is
leaving them because he's not being "nice"
enough, or he's not giving her what she wants, or
he's not being a good boyfriend... etc.

Or they assume that this is just "one of those
things that happens", that "feelings change" and
that there's really nothing he could have done
anyway.

Well, these ideas, and almost all the others
that most guys think, are DEAD WRONG.

So STEP ONE is for you to realize that what
you THINK you know is WRONG. Throw it out.

Start over, and open your mind to a new way
of seeing things. I'll share more on this later.


YOU CAN'T SOLVE IT WITH MORE OF THE SAME

Now I want to talk about what NOT to do.

I know that this is going to sound pretty
obvious, but if what you're doing isn't working
in a particular situation, you need to STOP.

Don't keep doing what's not working.

In other words, if the woman you love is
breaking up with you, and you've been being
nice to her, doing whatever she wants, and
telling her that you'll do anything to make it
better... if only she'll stay... then STOP.

Stop doing that.

Whatever it is you're doing that isn't
working ISN'T WORKING. Duh.

So stop it immediately.

More of the same is only going to get you
more of what is happening.


WHY ATTRACTION IS SO IMPORTANT

One of the main reasons why I talk about and
teach the concept of ATTRACTION is that when
it comes to these types of situations, the
REAL underlying reason for them is usually that
the woman doesn't feel ATTRACTION anymore.

When it all boils down, she just plain does
not FEEL IT.

Now, a woman will say and do all kinds of
things OTHER than telling you that this is the
problem.

Women have all these ideas in their heads
like "I can't tell him how I REALLY feel because
I don't want to hurt his feelings" and "I can't
tell him what's going on because I don't want
to emasculate him" and "It's just easier if I
just go away".

Love it.

But when you take away all of the B.S., and
you get right to the core of what's going on,
you'll usually find that it all boils down to
ATTRACTION... or, more specifically, the LACK
of ATTRACTION.

I'm going to say something that's pretty
bold right now. Get ready.

If you do not know how to make a woman feel
the GUT LEVEL physical and emotional response
called ATTRACTION, then you are going to be
out of control in relationships, and will very
likely have women leave you for the rest of
your life.

There is no security when you don't "get it"
in the ATTRACTION department.

And you know EXACTLY what I'm talking about.

Women KNOW that they have the upper hand with
most men.

As a guy, you can FEEL IT when a woman "has
you by the balls".

And even if she's not evil or mean, a woman
can still crush you emotionally when she's in
this powerful position.

Well, guess what?

YOU'RE THE ONE WHO GIVES HER THIS POWER.

And if you choose, you can KEEP this power
for YOURSELF.


SOLVE THE PROBLEM BEFORE IT STARTS

Now, the BEST way to deal with this particular
problem is to SOLVE it BEFORE it even starts.

The absolute most important prevention method
is an understanding of female psychology and
ATTRACTION.

Here are a few pointers to get you started:

1) Women are NEVER attracted to WUSSIES.

Women don't feel ATTRACTION for weak men.

Sure, if you chase a woman for long enough,
and buy her enough things, she may "fall" for
you. But in that case it's not because she feels
ATTRACTION for you. OHHHHH NO. It's because
she feels AFFECTION for you, and she confuses it
with ATTRACTION.

So if your Inner Wussy has been taking the
wheel, EVICT IT! Bitch-slap the Wuss out of
yourself. Do it now.

2) Don't be PREDICTABLE.

Predictability is a mortal sin when it comes
to attraction.

If a woman can guess what you're going to do
or say, you're being predictable.

If she CAN'T guess what you're going to do or
say, she'll always be wondering...

Now, keep in mind that women are MUCH better
at predicting behavior than men.

So if you're going to stop being predictable,
then you're going to need to LEARN how.

To begin with, PAUSE before you do and say
things. Think about what you'd normally do, then
DO SOMETHING ELSE.

Throw in some crazy, off-the-wall stuff for
good measure.

Predictable is BAD BAD BAD for business.

3) Don't be BORING.

Boring is the bastard child of Predictable.

When you are SO predictable that NOTHING is
new or different, then you are officially
BORING.

Boring is also the lack of adventure,
passion, energy, humor, and ATTRACTION.

Unfortunately, most men are REALLY REALLY
REALLLLLLLLLLLLY boring.

I mean like shoot-yourself boring.

Like, if there was a "Boring Score" that
took into account everything from food to
clothing to interests to conversation, most
men would score a 99.75 on a 100 scale.

It's a bad situation.

I used to be pretty damn boring myself,
so boring, in fact, that I could probably be
certified as an expert on the topic.

So take it from me, BORING is BAD.

I don't care WHAT you have to do to stop
being boring, but do it.

A few quick ideas:

Take up an interesting hobby. Think wine
collecting, not comic book collecting.

Mountain biking, not chemistry.

Fashion, not X-Box.

You feel me?

Now, this is just a taste.

More important than what you do and talk
about is HOW you do it and talk about it.

There is a way to communicate with women
that prevents you from being boring. I suggest
that you pay attention to the things you're
learning from me so you "get it".


IF THINGS GET BAD, BREAK UP FIRST

Now I'm going to REALLY stick my neck out.

This one is going to make the little baby
hairs stand up on the backs of necks of women
all over the world...

If you find yourself in one of these bad
situations that I mentioned above, and you
sense that the woman in your life is about to
leave, then BREAK UP WITH HER FIRST.

DO IT.

Don't hesitate.

Cut the line.

Hit the road.

No matter what your emotions tell you to
do, you have to end it FIRST.

If you want to have ANY chance of having
things work out in the LONG RUN, then you
need to TAKE CONTROL of the situation, and
BREAK UP WITH HER.

From this position, you will then be able
to see things more clearly, and she will be
about 100 times more likely to want to work
things out with you.

If you REALLY want to increase your chances
of having things work out, then you should
also start dating other women as well.

But let's not talk too much about that,
because I'm already in the danger zone here.

If you take the time to think about it,
you'll realize that breaking up with her
FIRST is the best possible thing you can do.

As you've heard me say quite a few times,
it's important to give a woman the GIFT of
MISSING YOU.

Never is it more important than in one of
THESE situations.

I know, this is a damn hard thing to do
when you're in the heat of the moment... but
if you don't do it, you'll probably wind up
with her leaving... and you feeling that
lame POWERLESS feeling that I described
earlier.

OK, so to wrap, let me talk about one
more thing...

As I mentioned before, the REAL thing that
causes women to LEAVE comes down to the man in
her life not understanding ATTRACTION and how
to make her FEEL IT for him.

And, as I mentioned, no woman is EVER going
to TELL this to you.

Instead, she's just going to LEAVE.

When I first started learning all of this
stuff about how to be successful with women and
dating, I had NO IDEA that I would wind up solving
the mystery of why women LEAVE men.

I was only looking for the answer to how to get
a woman in the first place... I never even thought
about KEEPING one once I got her...

But now I realize that this particular topic
usually winds up being the most important one,
because once you find that amazing woman, and
get something good going, you certainly don't want
to LOSE her.

And when you find yourself in the situation,
and you realize that the woman you have is about
to leave... you would basically do ANYTHING to
stop it.

Of course, at that point it's usually TOO
LATE to do anything... which sucks.

So one of the most important things you can do
RIGHT NOW in your life is to learn how and why
women feel ATTRACTION for some men... and how to
make women feel it for you.
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Originally Posted by sasha

And this is coming from the arrogant bastard who can't and won't pay up the debt he promised to pay me, a mere student, 2 months ago?!!! Have some shame.

It's only in your imagination that I was buckled over you!




You're an idiot. Just stop before you make yourself look even more foolish.


I only have one thing to say, I sure do feel sorry for the next sorry bastard who falls for you and your bullshit. I was dumb, I admit to that!


Thank GOD I got out of it when I did. I truly feel sorry for those who have to come in contact with you on a personal level.
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Ruh-roh...round 2...

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Sweet, there goes my thread. I hate you all.
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this is great
Old 08-23-2004, 11:09 PM
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wow this thread did a 360
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It sounds like both of them are bitter.
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Woah - this is new to me. Meeeeow!

As a wise man once said...

I knew a girl named nikki
I guess u could say she was a sex fiend
I met her in a hotel lobby
Masturbating with a magazine
She said how’d u like 2 waste some time
And I could not resist when I saw little nikki grind

She took me 2 her castle
And I just couldn’t believe my eyes
She had so many devices
Everything that money could buy
She said sign your name on the dotted line
The lights went out
And nikki started 2 grind

Nikki

The castle started spinning
Or maybe it was my brain
I can’t tell u what she did 2 me
But my body will never be the same
Her lovin’ will kick your behind
Oh, she’ll show u no mercy
But she’ll sho’nuff sho’nuff show u how 2 grind

Darlin’ nikki

Woke up the next morning
Nikki wasn’t there
I looked all over and all I found
Was a phone unmber on the stairs
It said thank u 4 a funky time
Call me up whenever u want 2 grind

Oh, nikki, ohhhh

Come back nikki, come back
Your dirty little prince
Wanna grind grind grind grind grind grind grind grind grind

{backwards at the end...}
Hello, how r u? I’m fine. ’cause I know
That the lord is coming soon, coming, coming soon.
Old 08-25-2004, 04:13 PM
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As far as the actual thread goes, i had the same thing happen to me only the night i met her we had some hottub fun with her and a friend, she kept on calling me and asking me to come out but i felt no chemistry even when we shagged, i should have trusted my instincts because she was no good, if there is no spark there will be no flame, and those 1200 mile round trips add up.
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Originally Posted by Always Dirty
Woah - this is new to me. Meeeeow!

As a wise man once said...

I knew a girl named nikki
I guess u could say she was a sex fiend
I met her in a hotel lobby
Masturbating with a magazine
She said how’d u like 2 waste some time
And I could not resist when I saw little nikki grind

She took me 2 her castle
And I just couldn’t believe my eyes
She had so many devices
Everything that money could buy
She said sign your name on the dotted line
The lights went out
And nikki started 2 grind

Nikki

The castle started spinning
Or maybe it was my brain
I can’t tell u what she did 2 me
But my body will never be the same
Her lovin’ will kick your behind
Oh, she’ll show u no mercy
But she’ll sho’nuff sho’nuff show u how 2 grind

Darlin’ nikki

Woke up the next morning
Nikki wasn’t there
I looked all over and all I found
Was a phone unmber on the stairs
It said thank u 4 a funky time
Call me up whenever u want 2 grind

Oh, nikki, ohhhh

Come back nikki, come back
Your dirty little prince
Wanna grind grind grind grind grind grind grind grind grind

{backwards at the end...}
Hello, how r u? I’m fine. ’cause I know
That the lord is coming soon, coming, coming soon.

Where did that come from? That was a little messed up.
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Originally Posted by sasha

And this is coming from the arrogant bastard who can't and won't pay up the debt he promised to pay me, a mere student, 2 months ago?!!! Have some shame.

It's only in your imagination that I was buckled over you!



well hey before he said that he didnt know who you were and you werent his GF< but now hes admitting it.
Old 08-25-2004, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
Where did that come from? That was a little messed up.
It's a song, I think Prince wrote it. Foo Fighters did a remake recently.
Old 08-25-2004, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SilviaGTO
well hey before he said that he didnt know who you were and you werent his GF< but now hes admitting it.
omg this shit is coming back up i knew it was only a matter of time...
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Originally Posted by 2003type-s6
It's a song, I think Prince wrote it. Foo Fighters did a remake recently.

Ah, OK. Now you don't seem so screwed up anymore.
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For anybody who still cares, with these arguments going on here and whatnot , she asked me to come down and go visit her friends at UIC with her. I didn't want to ask her, but I hope it's just me and her going.



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