UPDATE Page 4:Timing a breakup
Originally Posted by cTLgo
Geez, do women have a homing signal or a 6th sense? An old flame texted me out of the blue that we should hang out sometime soon. WTF?!
Originally Posted by cTLgo
Geez, do women have a homing signal or a 6th sense? An old flame texted me out of the blue that we should hang out sometime soon. WTF?!
Originally Posted by Erz
if you know deep down theres nothing left then i would do it asap. put yourself in her shoes: would you wanna be at a function with a girlfriend whos just counting down the minutes till she can get rid of you (whether you realize it or not)? i wouldnt. don't lead people on.
just make sure its something you dont want to do what you can to make it work. if you know for sure that all's lost then just be done with it.
just make sure its something you dont want to do what you can to make it work. if you know for sure that all's lost then just be done with it.
I have been thinking about this today. I don't want to go to the her friend's engagement party this weekend and then our friend's wedding next week with this over my head. Plus I'll be acting weird the whole time, and I'm sick of fighting, I know if we talk (I haven't called her since Monday night when we fought) its just going to be more fighting and I'm burned out from it. We're the kind of people that wouldn't create a big stink about it. It will be awkward, but I think it will come out in my actions and delay the inevitable, I'm thinking I'm better off just doing it. I was thinking about calling her Thurs night telling her we need to talk in person. Then Friday night end things. Thoughts?
Oh NOOOOO
The old `we need to talk` will make things so much harder for you- the waiting and imagining her mind will go thru- you already have new girl or you have an STD!!!!
its got to be one or the other!!! becasuse she is perfect you know
Just make a plan to see each other in person friday if thats when you both have time
Women have far more than a 6th sense- you cant really lie or fool them, if they dont figure something out- their gay guy friend rats out your man behavior secrets
Deny a women regular amount of sex and she knows right away somethings wrong
She knows its not going well or going in the direction she believed she could mold you
(sex is a lure gentlemen-beware) and the fighting is her trying to make you the responsible bad guy and break up.
You will be required to say how much about yourself and life you learned from her and how wonderful the good times were AND now its growing in different directions- without faulting anyone- its just moving forward.
Discuss with the soon to be ex girl, does SHE WANT to attend the wedding OR would she prefer to go to the shower which is for the girls anyway- and they can badmouth you and discuss the inadequete size of you whohaw!!
Then get out of the house!!!!!!!!!
no goodbye sex-
guaranteed pregnancy!!!!
or std as a goodby gift
THEN:
You buy YOUR friend a wedding gift from their registry list- doesnt matter if its the 5 dollar cookie sheet or the 100$ bed sheets- do what you are comfortable with- second thought dont buy bed sheets for woman marrying someone else- get the blender- safe
Do not attend as her boyfriend or ex- ----sit seperate sides of the room if needed
No one cares about you at a wedding
The bride is out of her mind, the groom is in a panic sweat
and you think they have time to ask wheres your girl?????????
PLUS weddings are great place to meet new woman who imay have been drinking and in a romantic mood~~~~~~~~~oh poor boy- you broke up right before this wedding - let me make you feeeeel better lol
The old `we need to talk` will make things so much harder for you- the waiting and imagining her mind will go thru- you already have new girl or you have an STD!!!!
its got to be one or the other!!! becasuse she is perfect you know
Just make a plan to see each other in person friday if thats when you both have time
Women have far more than a 6th sense- you cant really lie or fool them, if they dont figure something out- their gay guy friend rats out your man behavior secrets
Deny a women regular amount of sex and she knows right away somethings wrong
She knows its not going well or going in the direction she believed she could mold you
(sex is a lure gentlemen-beware) and the fighting is her trying to make you the responsible bad guy and break up.
You will be required to say how much about yourself and life you learned from her and how wonderful the good times were AND now its growing in different directions- without faulting anyone- its just moving forward.
Discuss with the soon to be ex girl, does SHE WANT to attend the wedding OR would she prefer to go to the shower which is for the girls anyway- and they can badmouth you and discuss the inadequete size of you whohaw!!
Then get out of the house!!!!!!!!!
no goodbye sex-
guaranteed pregnancy!!!!
or std as a goodby gift
THEN:
You buy YOUR friend a wedding gift from their registry list- doesnt matter if its the 5 dollar cookie sheet or the 100$ bed sheets- do what you are comfortable with- second thought dont buy bed sheets for woman marrying someone else- get the blender- safe
Do not attend as her boyfriend or ex- ----sit seperate sides of the room if needed
No one cares about you at a wedding
The bride is out of her mind, the groom is in a panic sweat
and you think they have time to ask wheres your girl?????????
PLUS weddings are great place to meet new woman who imay have been drinking and in a romantic mood~~~~~~~~~oh poor boy- you broke up right before this wedding - let me make you feeeeel better lol
Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
Oh NOOOOO
The old `we need to talk` will make things so much harder for you- the waiting and imagining her mind will go thru- you already have new girl or you have an STD!!!!
its got to be one or the other!!! becasuse she is perfect you know
Just make a plan to see each other in person friday if thats when you both have time
Women have far more than a 6th sense- you cant really lie or fool them, if they dont figure something out- their gay guy friend rats out your man behavior secrets
Deny a women regular amount of sex and she knows right away somethings wrong
She knows its not going well or going in the direction she believed she could mold you
(sex is a lure gentlemen-beware) and the fighting is her trying to make you the responsible bad guy and break up.
You will be required to say how much about yourself and life you learned from her and how wonderful the good times were AND now its growing in different directions- without faulting anyone- its just moving forward.
Discuss with the soon to be ex girl, does SHE WANT to attend the wedding OR would she prefer to go to the shower which is for the girls anyway- and they can badmouth you and discuss the inadequete size of you whohaw!!
Then get out of the house!!!!!!!!!
no goodbye sex-
guaranteed pregnancy!!!!
or std as a goodby gift
THEN:
You buy YOUR friend a wedding gift from their registry list- doesnt matter if its the 5 dollar cookie sheet or the 100$ bed sheets- do what you are comfortable with- second thought dont buy bed sheets for woman marrying someone else- get the blender- safe
Do not attend as her boyfriend or ex- ----sit seperate sides of the room if needed
No one cares about you at a wedding
The bride is out of her mind, the groom is in a panic sweat
and you think they have time to ask wheres your girl?????????
PLUS weddings are great place to meet new woman who imay have been drinking and in a romantic mood~~~~~~~~~oh poor boy- you broke up right before this wedding - let me make you feeeeel better lol
The old `we need to talk` will make things so much harder for you- the waiting and imagining her mind will go thru- you already have new girl or you have an STD!!!!
its got to be one or the other!!! becasuse she is perfect you know
Just make a plan to see each other in person friday if thats when you both have time
Women have far more than a 6th sense- you cant really lie or fool them, if they dont figure something out- their gay guy friend rats out your man behavior secrets
Deny a women regular amount of sex and she knows right away somethings wrong
She knows its not going well or going in the direction she believed she could mold you
(sex is a lure gentlemen-beware) and the fighting is her trying to make you the responsible bad guy and break up.
You will be required to say how much about yourself and life you learned from her and how wonderful the good times were AND now its growing in different directions- without faulting anyone- its just moving forward.
Discuss with the soon to be ex girl, does SHE WANT to attend the wedding OR would she prefer to go to the shower which is for the girls anyway- and they can badmouth you and discuss the inadequete size of you whohaw!!
Then get out of the house!!!!!!!!!
no goodbye sex-
guaranteed pregnancy!!!!
or std as a goodby gift
THEN:
You buy YOUR friend a wedding gift from their registry list- doesnt matter if its the 5 dollar cookie sheet or the 100$ bed sheets- do what you are comfortable with- second thought dont buy bed sheets for woman marrying someone else- get the blender- safe
Do not attend as her boyfriend or ex- ----sit seperate sides of the room if needed
No one cares about you at a wedding
The bride is out of her mind, the groom is in a panic sweat
and you think they have time to ask wheres your girl?????????
PLUS weddings are great place to meet new woman who imay have been drinking and in a romantic mood~~~~~~~~~oh poor boy- you broke up right before this wedding - let me make you feeeeel better lol
Originally Posted by cTLgo
I have been thinking about this today. I don't want to go to the her friend's engagement party this weekend and then our friend's wedding next week with this over my head. Plus I'll be acting weird the whole time, and I'm sick of fighting, I know if we talk (I haven't called her since Monday night when we fought) its just going to be more fighting and I'm burned out from it. We're the kind of people that wouldn't create a big stink about it. It will be awkward, but I think it will come out in my actions and delay the inevitable, I'm thinking I'm better off just doing it. I was thinking about calling her Thurs night telling her we need to talk in person. Then Friday night end things. Thoughts?
On one side, it sucks being just broken up and having to see each other at a wedding. It's worse if there is drama from it. But since you say she is not like that, then that's good.
But if it's really on your mind this much, and you think the next 10 days or so will be hell, then, ending it is not the worse thing. I would do it soon. This was you can see how she reacts seeing you this weekend at the engagement party. I know before, I have been saying to wait, but if it's on your mind this much, then do it quick will be better.
Either way....we all know it's not fun. Good luck.
just ditch her. dont play fair. looks like you guys had an agreement to keep bad/foul language out but it seems she plays dirty.
just for that i would consider dumping her over the phone. give her a taste of her own medicine. Ive been through enough breakups to know when the gloves come off. dump her before the wedding and go there as a stag. there are probably better fishes there and you dont want to be seen with a "date", especially if you guys are on the verge of ending it all. like what 01tl4tl said, people wont care in a wedding, and even if they do. who cares? its your life.
peace.
just for that i would consider dumping her over the phone. give her a taste of her own medicine. Ive been through enough breakups to know when the gloves come off. dump her before the wedding and go there as a stag. there are probably better fishes there and you dont want to be seen with a "date", especially if you guys are on the verge of ending it all. like what 01tl4tl said, people wont care in a wedding, and even if they do. who cares? its your life.
peace.
Originally Posted by cTLgo
^^^ 
Today is B-day, aka Breakup Day. Kinda sad to see things end, don't know what the future holds but hopefully the MANY CHICKS I WILL BE BANGING will take my mind off things!

Today is B-day, aka Breakup Day. Kinda sad to see things end, don't know what the future holds but hopefully the MANY CHICKS I WILL BE BANGING will take my mind off things!
Hang in there man. It is for the best.
I guess you could say it was multi-staged. Obviously, it did not go over well. She barely let me talk and told me to leave. I had no choice and started leaving, she called me a coward. Nothing I could do, I went home. I'm sitting there thinking, and I guess she buzzed my place. She came storming in and went off on me. I'm not sure how that would mend things back together, but I mean she's mad so its understandable in a way.
She told me I used her, because I was recently intimate with her. I didn't intend to use her, I was still into the relationship, it does take 2 to be intimate. So I don't know how she can entirely blame me. In any case, round 2 did not go over well either and every question I would ask her, she would throw back on to me. Then when I wouldn't respond, she'd say I'm not saying anything. I don't know, last time I checked, a person asks a question, because they don't know the answer. I guess she doesn't realize that.
She still couldn't tell me what I could work on, all she said was be more supportive. How? Not really sure, she couldn't tell me that.
I was drained and dozed off, I guess she was calling and texted me quite a bit. I woke up to it late at night and returned her call. Lots of crying, rehash of the stuff that happened. Very emotional, but really no different then the way things went. All in all she told me that although she still loves me, she cannot be my friend ever (surprising cause she has kept relations with her exes even 1 that is a total asshole) and that she just wouldn't be able to bear seeing me with someone else.
I guess I have to respect her wishes, I am truly sad to lose a good friend, maybe someday things will change, but I can't wait around for that. Thanks for the advice and support everyone...
She told me I used her, because I was recently intimate with her. I didn't intend to use her, I was still into the relationship, it does take 2 to be intimate. So I don't know how she can entirely blame me. In any case, round 2 did not go over well either and every question I would ask her, she would throw back on to me. Then when I wouldn't respond, she'd say I'm not saying anything. I don't know, last time I checked, a person asks a question, because they don't know the answer. I guess she doesn't realize that.
She still couldn't tell me what I could work on, all she said was be more supportive. How? Not really sure, she couldn't tell me that.
I was drained and dozed off, I guess she was calling and texted me quite a bit. I woke up to it late at night and returned her call. Lots of crying, rehash of the stuff that happened. Very emotional, but really no different then the way things went. All in all she told me that although she still loves me, she cannot be my friend ever (surprising cause she has kept relations with her exes even 1 that is a total asshole) and that she just wouldn't be able to bear seeing me with someone else.
I guess I have to respect her wishes, I am truly sad to lose a good friend, maybe someday things will change, but I can't wait around for that. Thanks for the advice and support everyone...
I'm actually surprised that she didn't see the break-up coming, considering that you guys have been fighting a lot lately. I guess she didn't realize things were THAT bad for you to feel unhappy. Is she going through something stressful right now ("...all she said was be more supportive...")? Maybe you would have been more patient and understanding if you knew exactly what's going on with her.
The bad thing is, she was so upset that you were not really able to explain yourself. Even if you did explain your side, she would probably not be able to listen.
Your ex can't be friends with you right now because she's still hurting. Maybe you'll be friends again once she gets over you.
The bad thing is, she was so upset that you were not really able to explain yourself. Even if you did explain your side, she would probably not be able to listen.
Your ex can't be friends with you right now because she's still hurting. Maybe you'll be friends again once she gets over you.
She's better out of your life then as a friend to you. It's hard, I've been there. I dated a girl for 3 yrs and things just didnt work out and she wanted to be friends. I told her there's no way a friendship can come of this. It's hard to date someone serious and then all of a sudden have rules of the do's and dont's. You're better off this way.
At least it's done. I'm sure you must feel relieved. Well, can't say I'm really suprised with how she reacted. Even the most rational person gets really messed up when they break up.
I think if you guys were friends before, there is a chance that you can maintain some form of a civil relationship, but don't expect much. Give her some time and then call to see how she is doing. Even if she hangs up on you and call you names, she will in some way appreciate the jesture.
For the record, I tried to remain friends with some of my exs. It's not easy, and eventually you stop talking all together. But I think if I worked harder at it, I would still talk to some of them. After a while, I decided it's not worth it.
Good luck.
I think if you guys were friends before, there is a chance that you can maintain some form of a civil relationship, but don't expect much. Give her some time and then call to see how she is doing. Even if she hangs up on you and call you names, she will in some way appreciate the jesture.
For the record, I tried to remain friends with some of my exs. It's not easy, and eventually you stop talking all together. But I think if I worked harder at it, I would still talk to some of them. After a while, I decided it's not worth it.
Good luck.
Depending on how bad your fights were, I don't think you'll ever be more than acquiantances. My ex and I have tried a few times, but nope. She always brings shit back, and I said fuck it. No more hope after a relationship ends.
to a new life though.
to a new life though.
Sorry to see my brother mod go through all this. You made the right choice, cTLgo. It'll be hard even though things weren't going well....but text your old flame back and go have a nice lunch with her.
keep your head down. the worst part is over. just ignore her for now and get on with your life. find a hobby, do something different, get a new car (if that is financially possible). do anything that will distract you from what you are feeling now. its not your fault, and getting rid of her frees you up for things being with her just wouldnt be possible.
Thanks Bob, I hope someday we can at the very least give a random hi/hello. Not sure if that will actually happen but one can hope.
sixsixfour, yeah I'm surrounding myself with friends, keeping myself busy working on the condo. I finished my window treatments in the master bed and put up my dining and foyer lights.
sixsixfour, yeah I'm surrounding myself with friends, keeping myself busy working on the condo. I finished my window treatments in the master bed and put up my dining and foyer lights.
I am just beside myself. Im really sorry it didnt work my friend.
I really thought you two were gonna go all the way.....
Sounds like you need to come to Dallas and just go nuts on these hotties down here.
I really thought you two were gonna go all the way.....
Sounds like you need to come to Dallas and just go nuts on these hotties down here.
Originally Posted by cTLgo
Thanks Bob, I hope someday we can at the very least give a random hi/hello. Not sure if that will actually happen but one can hope.
sixsixfour, yeah I'm surrounding myself with friends, keeping myself busy working on the condo. I finished my window treatments in the master bed and put up my dining and foyer lights.
sixsixfour, yeah I'm surrounding myself with friends, keeping myself busy working on the condo. I finished my window treatments in the master bed and put up my dining and foyer lights.
I started playing pool after I broke up with this girl. I needed to occupy my time. It was great. Ended up meeting some great people, went to Vegas to play in Nationals, and met my wife through it.
Originally Posted by cTLgo
fawk I'm a sucker for a crying girl. She has begged and pleaded me. I'm giving her another chance.... fawk me 

Be brutally honest with her when you discuss the changes that need to be made in the relationship.
i came to check up on you and see how things went, but looks like d-day came back around and you're giving it a round two...i respect your decision, but I have yet to see a situation like yours turn out bette in round two. best of luck though..
Originally Posted by poohlikeshunny
i came to check up on you and see how things went, but looks like d-day came back around and you're giving it a round two...i respect your decision, but I have yet to see a situation like yours turn out bette in round two. best of luck though..
seriously...most people can't handle some of the shit that needs to be "sorted out" before getting back in the groove. mad props to the ones who do...i tried a few times with a few girls...always came back to whatever problem broke us up in the first place...
Originally Posted by cTLgo
fawk I'm a sucker for a crying girl. She has begged and pleaded me. I'm giving her another chance.... fawk me 

How to Argue With Women
Step 1. Abandon all logic. Girls don't use it, and you certainly shouldn't allow it to handicap you.
Step 2. If you believe strongly in something, do NOT give in to any aspect of it. Compromise is useless against girls, because they will rationalize that if they can get you to concede to one element, they can get you to quit on the whole fuckin' Periodic Table. (Nothing like a little chemistry humor, right?)
Step 3. Don't be afraid to take cheap shots. Ever argue with a girl about something and they randomly insult you with something that has no relevance to the argument? That's their way of trying to wear you down and push you off-topic. Fight fire with fire, I say. Tell her she has a fat ass, small boobs, an ugly face, disorienting facial hair, unwieldy hips, and is a genuinely awful person.
Step 4. Cite precedent. Girls have no concept of historical factors relating to the current situation. Most girls reading this just went over to dictionary.com to see what "precedent" meant.
Step 5. Interrupt her. Don't let her talk. Girls hate that like they hate other girls. It's hilarious, too. They get all frazzled.
Step 6. Don't take her seriously. Laugh at every point she deems serious in nature. Fart, if possible. Derail her emotional train.
Step 7. If the argument escalates, cut off all communication with her. If a girl can't find you, she can't continue arguing about bullshit. Change your phone number, relocate, and get a name change if you must.
Step 8. Don't be fooled by "Let's stop arguing please." That's their way of making you let your guard down, so they can swoop in after you're worn down. Instead, say something like "Yeah, all this being right is exhausting for me." Pisses them off. Just trust me.
Step 9. Compare her unfavorably with another girl. This is especially effective if the comparison is with a girl that they simply abhor. Tell her something like, "Lisa is so much more compassionate than you." Girls hate other girls, like a deer hates a shotgun. And how do you take down a deer? Exactly.
Step 10. Don't be intimidated by the water works. That's their ultimate contingency, knowing that guys can't deal with a crying girl. Stay strong, don't let yourself get emotional, just think of something funny. Replay scenes from "Office Space" in your head if you must.
Step 11. Bust out, "I don't feel like fighting. I've proven my point." Then stop. Leave the argument. It pisses them off because a guy's natural reaction is to resolve, whereas a girl's is to continue forever and ever until the end of time until they hear that they are right. If a guy decides that he is right and won't budge, their whole concept of male-female relations is shot to shit. Again, mind games.
Step 12. Ask her if she's on the rag. Self-explanatory.
Step 13. When all else fails, tell her she's just like her mother. It's an ace-in-the-hole and will emotionally cripple her to such a degree she may even forget her whole argument.
Step 1. Abandon all logic. Girls don't use it, and you certainly shouldn't allow it to handicap you.
Step 2. If you believe strongly in something, do NOT give in to any aspect of it. Compromise is useless against girls, because they will rationalize that if they can get you to concede to one element, they can get you to quit on the whole fuckin' Periodic Table. (Nothing like a little chemistry humor, right?)
Step 3. Don't be afraid to take cheap shots. Ever argue with a girl about something and they randomly insult you with something that has no relevance to the argument? That's their way of trying to wear you down and push you off-topic. Fight fire with fire, I say. Tell her she has a fat ass, small boobs, an ugly face, disorienting facial hair, unwieldy hips, and is a genuinely awful person.
Step 4. Cite precedent. Girls have no concept of historical factors relating to the current situation. Most girls reading this just went over to dictionary.com to see what "precedent" meant.
Step 5. Interrupt her. Don't let her talk. Girls hate that like they hate other girls. It's hilarious, too. They get all frazzled.
Step 6. Don't take her seriously. Laugh at every point she deems serious in nature. Fart, if possible. Derail her emotional train.
Step 7. If the argument escalates, cut off all communication with her. If a girl can't find you, she can't continue arguing about bullshit. Change your phone number, relocate, and get a name change if you must.
Step 8. Don't be fooled by "Let's stop arguing please." That's their way of making you let your guard down, so they can swoop in after you're worn down. Instead, say something like "Yeah, all this being right is exhausting for me." Pisses them off. Just trust me.
Step 9. Compare her unfavorably with another girl. This is especially effective if the comparison is with a girl that they simply abhor. Tell her something like, "Lisa is so much more compassionate than you." Girls hate other girls, like a deer hates a shotgun. And how do you take down a deer? Exactly.
Step 10. Don't be intimidated by the water works. That's their ultimate contingency, knowing that guys can't deal with a crying girl. Stay strong, don't let yourself get emotional, just think of something funny. Replay scenes from "Office Space" in your head if you must.
Step 11. Bust out, "I don't feel like fighting. I've proven my point." Then stop. Leave the argument. It pisses them off because a guy's natural reaction is to resolve, whereas a girl's is to continue forever and ever until the end of time until they hear that they are right. If a guy decides that he is right and won't budge, their whole concept of male-female relations is shot to shit. Again, mind games.
Step 12. Ask her if she's on the rag. Self-explanatory.
Step 13. When all else fails, tell her she's just like her mother. It's an ace-in-the-hole and will emotionally cripple her to such a degree she may even forget her whole argument.
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