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Old 12-25-2008, 06:34 PM
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Think I hit the friend wall smack on...

Well there's this girl that i've know for about 8 months now, introduced through a mutual friend.

We talk on the phone a lot, and it's really fun talking to her. We only meet in person in this huge group though, same people every time. I really want to ask her out sometime.

It's not that simple. Recently her and the mutual friend had an argument, and aren't talking anymore. I still talk to both, and each know that I'm talking to the other. Mutual friend seems just a tad uncomfortable with it though. Girl mentioned that we hadn't seen each other in a while, and I asked her if maybe she wanted to grab a drink or something at Second Cup sometime. She said it would be "weird" because we're not in the group.

Early on, maybe 7 months ago, another guy in the group asked her out. They went on one date, and it didn't work out for the typical reasons. That might complicate things.

Bottom line: I don't know what more I could do, and I think i've hit the friend wall smack on. If I ask her out, I know it's going to be completely out of the blue.

WTF do I do?



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Old 12-25-2008, 07:18 PM
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i believe u have hit it, she already said u two going out would be wierd.

i met a girl through a mutal freind, buddies gf

no problems with it at first but i guess there was always a competition between them. my buddies girl starts tweaking out however this girl still wants to chill so we do. no problems. we chilled a few times, screwed around a little, and then the ex called her and she went MIA. pisses me off completely. last time i heard form her was a month ago when she goes i bought a car like urs and i don't need to use my key, i said thats cool i bought a bike, and haven't heard from her since.

bottom line u hit the freind wall with her comment, stop talking to her wait for her to make contact. move on
Old 12-25-2008, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Fyre Man
Well there's this girl that i've know for about 8 months now, introduced through a mutual friend.

We talk on the phone a lot, and it's really fun talking to her.
We only meet in person in this huge group though, same people every time. I really want to ask her out sometime.

It's not that simple. Recently her and the mutual friend had an argument, and aren't talking anymore. I still talk to both, and each know that I'm talking to the other. Mutual friend seems just a tad uncomfortable with it though. Girl mentioned that we hadn't seen each other in a while, and I asked her if maybe she wanted to grab a drink or something at Second Cup sometime. She said it would be "weird" because we're not in the group.

Early on, maybe 7 months ago, another guy in the group asked her out. They went on one date, and it didn't work out for the typical reasons. That might complicate things.

Bottom line: I don't know what more I could do, and I think i've hit the friend wall smack on. If I ask her out, I know it's going to be completely out of the blue.

WTF do I do?



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you were screwed from the second sentence.
Old 12-25-2008, 08:03 PM
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you gotta make it clear from the get go that you are interested in her . Guys who fail to do this are pushed into the friends pile way before they realize it.
Old 12-25-2008, 08:22 PM
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This is actually quite simple...

You are just a friend...you and everyone else in that big ass group. She can't relate to you beyond the group thing, and is probably thinking it would really be weird to do the group thing as a couple anyway. The first weak dude from the group didn't help.

Now...if it was me, I would try to fuck her anyway. Fuck the group. Do it anyway...ask her out for real, and if she says no...see ya at the next session! Don't worry about failing...failing only leaves you where you are right now, no worse! But succeeding changes the landscape...and her underwear...
Old 12-25-2008, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by darksom1
This is actually quite simple...

You are just a friend...you and everyone else in that big ass group. She can't relate to you beyond the group thing, and is probably thinking it would really be weird to do the group thing as a couple anyway. The first weak dude from the group didn't help.

Now...if it was me, I would try to fuck her anyway. Fuck the group. Do it anyway...ask her out for real, and if she says no...see ya at the next session! Don't worry about failing...failing only leaves you where you are right now, no worse! But succeeding changes the landscape...and her underwear...
lol. the dr is always in
Old 12-25-2008, 08:31 PM
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Women are not quite as complex as men make them seem to be at the outset. If they want you, they will take you on. If not, they will say some bullshit to steer you away. Maybe he got some bullshit with the weird comment, but I don't think he should leave himself wondering...just ask her confidently, that word is so key...all she can say is no...then fuck her...move on...
Old 12-26-2008, 01:23 AM
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I think when you asked her to hangout together and she said it would be weird cause you guys would be alone, thats a hint she's not interested. You can just continue to be friends. if you want a definate answer and dont mind risking the friendship, then ask her heads on. Just be prepared.
Old 12-26-2008, 09:33 AM
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8 months of hanging on the friends ladder is too long.

Still, since she really isn't that good of a friend, go for it. If she says no, move on, no big deal.
Old 12-26-2008, 09:49 AM
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Friend ladder is true/not true.
Old 12-26-2008, 06:23 PM
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She talks to me a bit more than the others in the group, and she's told me she's closer to me than the others in the group. But whatever, it doesn't seem like she's into me, and I'm not going to risk our friendship asking her out. I'm perfectly fine with how we are now. There are plenty of fish in the sea. I just wish I were better at fishing.
Old 12-26-2008, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Fyre Man
She talks to me a bit more than the others in the group, and she's told me she's closer to me than the others in the group. But whatever, it doesn't seem like she's into me, and I'm not going to risk our friendship asking her out. I'm perfectly fine with how we are now. There are plenty of fish in the sea. I just wish I were better at fishing.
Just gotta have the right bait man. Hook then reel.
Old 12-28-2008, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by anarchy[sear]
Just gotta have the right bait man. Hook then reel.
I can reel perfectly fine. It's the hook that's being a bitch.
Old 12-28-2008, 12:06 AM
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At 16, there are still a lot of people who would feel a little awkward going on a date. That's why "group dates" and double-dates are pretty common around that age... Just too much pressure for some to 'know what to say' or 'what to do' when there aren't others to help buffer some of the personal attention.
Old 12-28-2008, 02:08 PM
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only time you should talk to a girl who is not your GF on the phone should be to call and ask her on a date. no other talk.

should usually go something like this
you:hello (girls name), i cant talk much right now but would you like to grab a bite to eat (insert 3 days later here)?
her: sure
you: ok cool. hope you have a good day. ill call/text you with details later.


IF she says no...
You: oh well. hope you have a good day. maybe ill see you around.

end of convo
Old 12-28-2008, 02:14 PM
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If you want to be her friend then stick around. You want more, then move the fuck on....it ain't gonna happen with this one.
Old 12-29-2008, 06:48 AM
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Done!
Old 12-29-2008, 10:31 AM
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She feels weird without the group?

...orgy!!!
Old 12-29-2008, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by v6cord2k5
She feels weird without the group?

...orgy!!!
Yezzir! A gang-bang would definitely be appropriate! Tastefully done of course...meaning she swallows...
Old 12-29-2008, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Street Spirit
At 16, there are still a lot of people who would feel a little awkward going on a date. That's why "group dates" and double-dates are pretty common around that age...
group dates are for 6th and 7th graders who still need parents to pick them up and drop them off. he's 16, time to have sex!
Old 12-30-2008, 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by phee
only time you should talk to a girl who is not your GF on the phone should be to call and ask her on a date. no other talk.

should usually go something like this
you:hello (girls name), i cant talk much right now but would you like to grab a bite to eat (insert 3 days later here)?
her: sure
you: ok cool. hope you have a good day. ill call/text you with details later.


IF she says no...
You: oh well. hope you have a good day. maybe ill see you around.

end of convo
if she says no, it's going to be really awkward, and word gets out REALLY fast in the group...besides im the only one without any drama and i want to keep it that way.

Eh, don't think im gonna bother with her. Plenty of others, and it's probably better if it's not someone in the group.
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Originally Posted by darksom1
Yezzir! A gang-bang would definitely be appropriate! Tastefully done of course...meaning she swallows...
WOW lol Nice...
Old 12-30-2008, 08:37 AM
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dude just stop talking to her as much.. make her come to you.. but honestly at 16 i wouldnt stress it. at that age your supposed to be baggin as many as ya can lol but GL buddy
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Originally Posted by capnff
at that age your supposed to be tea-baggin as many as ya can lol but GL buddy
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If she's uncomfortable going on a date, hang it up and move on. Maybe she'll come around if she realizes that you're a prize catch, maybe not. Meanwhile, you're learning the ropes by focusing on other girls.

There's a reason misogynistic darksom's posts are on my ignore list ... nothing that I'd consider practical advice, just har-har Hustler mag humor.
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