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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 12:48 AM
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The Phone Call...

Well People, Its been 11 days since the truth came out, and it has been nothing but being cloak and dagger for me. So through various sources, I came to the conclusion that Kenz didnt want to break up with me, otherwise I would have been done and over with by now. So on that note I bought her some orchids and roses and sent them to her place. Now instead of writing any type of sorry note, I got the place to attach a CD I made with one song...our song, Cupid by Sam Cooke...I thought this song would mean more than anything I could write. Well, turns out I was right...She called me an hour ago, She asked how I was doing, she talked about her date with Justin and how lame he is She also said she misses me, and still loves me, but shes not sure if shes ready to forgive me, because I did what she never thought I could do, and hurt her. She wants to see me Friday, and I think this is gonna have to be my defining moment for her. Yes, I know this doesnt mean we're offically together again, but Im close. I just wanna thank you guys for all your help thus far, especially a couple of you who put some serious time into their responses. (TLover, FastAcura, Wck3, TSXAthlete, and Jatt especially )
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 12:52 AM
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 12:54 AM
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Awesome. Just remember to be patient with her. You will have a lot of work to do to gain her trust again. Good Luck
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 07:01 AM
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Your life is going to be a living hell should you two get back together, she will NEVER completely forgive or forget this. Any time she can use it to her advantage, you can bet your ass she's going to; rightfully so.
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 07:50 AM
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Well, this feels good, girls are suckers. However, this will not go down quietly. She will always doubt you.
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 08:11 AM
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Now imagine if you had showed up in that S55 with a date to piss her off...
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 08:19 AM
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 08:29 AM
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Congrats man...as others have said, it'll be uphill from here, but it should mean something that you told her to begin with. That's the hardest thing. Chances are good that she will not readily forget this, but she will want to forget it so that she can get on with her life. Do everything you can to help her move on including giving her all the time and distance that she might need at times.

And you know what? As a sign of you trying to earn back her trust, you might try giving her a key to your apartment...of course she might perform random apartment checks, but hey, you probably wouldn't mind after what happened this past week, right?
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Tireguy
Your life is going to be a living hell should you two get back together, she will NEVER completely forgive or forget this. Any time she can use it to her advantage, you can bet your ass she's going to; rightfully so.


Best of luck though.
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 08:45 AM
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It will take her some time to get the trust thing back into play but your saving grace is coming clean. There are circumstances where one party or the other will hold onto a grudge over an indiscretion but not always. Eventually, it may become something you both laugh about. The big hurdle for you is any potential fallout post-clean timeline. Meaning, anything you didn't fully disclose. I can't remember exactly but I think it was a vague statement about the indiscretion(s) and specifics may be forthcoming soon. Just be prepared. You've made the right moves so far and the ball is in her court to accept that.

Those that think she may hold it over your head are partially right, but it's dependant on the person. There are loads of documented cases of just the same thing where the couple worked it out and moved on past it. It takes emotional strength and maturity to accept something like that and it's not an easy road. There are cases where one party or both failed to accept the faults of their partner as well. It's about accepting human frailty and choosing what's best or right for yourself.

You've done right so far. If it doesn't work out, at least you got a clean conscience about it.


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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 08:50 AM
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Best of luck, and others have said just be patient and go with the flow. Since the damage has been done, you will have to prove to her that you are in fact a changed man, not the DOG you once were. You will be judged for everything, where you going, with whom, why, etc.. Just be ready to answer the what, where, why, if's...

Good Luck
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 09:03 AM
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the make-up sex will be unbelieveable since she will try to "convince" you why you should never sleep around again.
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So is this when you tell her that you just weren't boinking any old ho(s), it was her best friend(s)? Might as well get all your shit out of the closet now.
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 10:25 AM
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So is this when you tell her that you just weren't boinking any old ho(s), it was her best friend(s)? Might as well get all your shit out of the closet now.
and best of luck




You are gonna have to do A LOT to gain her trust back, hopefully you'll finally see what relationships are about and you will do it. Not many people would ever forgive someone for something like that. And personally, i'd be worried if she came running right back to you.
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 10:30 AM
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 10:32 AM
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Once a cheater....always a cheater.
Not really. I cheated on my then girlfriend now wife once in college while drunk. I came clean and never cheated on her again.
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 10:33 AM
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 10:57 AM
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why da fuck u at me?


anyways, good luck and keep us posted sala.
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 11:06 AM
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Not really. I cheated on my then girlfriend now wife once in college while drunk. I came clean and never cheated on her again.

cheaters that come clean learn their lesson. It's that look of hurt in your partners eyes that will do it to you, and make you realize it wasn't worth it and something you'll never do again.
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Teh Jatt
why da fuck u at me?


anyways, good luck and keep us posted sala.

ignore him, he's an idiot. Tons of people gave him good advice, in most cases it wasn't what he wanted to hear
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 11:17 AM
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you guys had "a song" and you were questioning whether there was an expectation of monogamy between you two???

that's funny, anyway, hope it goes well... good luck
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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trust again...?

Originally Posted by Tireguy
Your life is going to be a living hell should you two get back together, she will NEVER completely forgive or forget this. Any time she can use it to her advantage, you can bet your ass she's going to; rightfully so.
Not exactly probable... Lots of people have cheated on their significant others at some time or another and moved on from it. Men definitely cheat the most, but the money making women of today do their fair share too. Lots of people no longer see cheating as the biggest reason to be apart. That is after the cheating is discovered and stopped. Trust can be regained.
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by doopstr
So is this when you tell her that you just weren't boinking any old ho(s), it was her best friend(s)? Might as well get all your shit out of the closet now.
Disgree. You're in a delicate situation right now so bringing this up will be a deal killer for sure. Although this will have to be dealt with sooner or later. It WILL come up.
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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yea, and it'll be her best friend that eventually tells her :gonnagethung:
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 12:56 PM
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On one hand I say....Good for you Xeno, good luck.

On the other hand....who's taking bets on how long til he fucks up?
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RaviNJCLs
On one hand I say....Good for you Xeno, good luck.

On the other hand....who's taking bets on how long til he fucks up?

You know, I'm going to give Xeno the benefit of the doubt and say that I think he's had the fire of hell scared into him and will be a good boy for a long time.
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Caliadria
You know, I'm going to give Xeno the benefit of the doubt and say that I think he's had the fire of hell scared into him and will be a good boy for a long time.

this is the same guy that wanted to hire a hooker and drive his cousins car just so his date would see him He needs to drop the materialistic aspect before anything
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by CLpower
this is the same guy that wanted to hire a hooker and drive his cousins car just so his date would see him He needs to drop the materialistic aspect before anything

Old Jun 22, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Teh Jatt
why da fuck u at me?


anyways, good luck and keep us posted sala.
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 02:00 PM
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this is the same guy that wanted to hire a hooker and drive his cousins car just so his date would see him He needs to drop the materialistic aspect before anything
I knew someone would think female escort meant hired hooker...Why the fuck would I need to hire a hooker ?
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 02:01 PM
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On the other hand....who's taking bets on how long til he fucks up?
4 months....
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 02:03 PM
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ignore him, he's an idiot. Tons of people gave him good advice
This is true...but the people I listed posted more than 10 or so times.
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenogen
I knew someone would think female escort meant hired hooker...Why the fuck would I need to hire a hooker ?

Trust me, Scott doesnt' have the vocabulary to have been able to translate "escort" into "hooker." He made that up and it just happened to work, I promise you.
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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The definition I meant

A man who is the companion of a woman, especially on a social occasion.

The interpreted definition

A person, often a prostitute, who is hired to spend time with another as a companion.
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenogen
I knew someone would think female escort meant hired hooker...Why the fuck would I need to hire a hooker ?

dude, you and I know there is HONESTLY no difference. So it would be a "hooker" you didn't fuck

because 99% of the escorts out there are hookers who want to be able to put there name in the paper so they call themselves escorts. Either way, if you were half the playboy you claim to be, you wouldn't need to even hire an escort
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dude, you and I know there is HONESTLY no difference. So it would be a "hooker" you didn't fuck

because 99% of the escorts out there are hookers who want to be able to put there name in the paper so they call themselves escorts. Either way, if you were half the playboy you claim to be, you wouldn't need to even hire an escort

Scottie, I don't think he was actually intending to HIRE anyone... he was going to BRING someone to ESCORT him in the car...

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okay, i'll let this one slide
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CLpower
dude, you and I know there is HONESTLY no difference. So it would be a "hooker" you didn't fuck

because 99% of the escorts out there are hookers who want to be able to put there name in the paper so they call themselves escorts. Either way, if you were half the playboy you claim to be, you wouldn't need to even hire an escort
DUDE....it was a choice of words, if I say ESCORT, it means some chick thats going somewhere with me. SO an ESCORT to ME could be someone like YOUR WIFE. Like I said earlier....why the fuck would I need to hire a hooker?
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenogen
DUDE....it was a choice of words, if I say ESCORT, it means some chick thats going somewhere with me. SO an ESCORT to ME could be someone like YOUR WIFE. Like I said earlier....why the fuck would I need to hire a hooker?

yea, just noticed I got owned in the post above you




my materialistic point still stands though


As she said, in the terms you used it, it is beyond my vocabulary

I swear I read "hire an escort" in the other thread but I didn't when I went and re-read it
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 02:29 PM
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yea, just noticed I got owned in the post above you




my materialistic point still stands though As she said, in the terms you used it is beyond my vocabulary
Ok then But yeah, you're right about the materialism thing.



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