Windows Vista **Delayed, 60% of code to be rewritten**
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I have and it is nice.
I also played with ghosting it and loading it on an entirely different machine with a different IO controller and the damned thing booted right up in the same quick time.
I also played with ghosting it and loading it on an entirely different machine with a different IO controller and the damned thing booted right up in the same quick time.
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So what's improved, exactly?
Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
And windows is starting to look a little too mac-ish
I think windows xp is a very good OS, but i would like to see some more improvements. until then i will be a xp guy at work, but a mac os guy at home.
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I'm running build 5231 and its not too bad. The 64 bit works great. To get the glass effect you need LDDM supported video card. This using it in Virtual PC or VMware wont get that. (I don't think anyways)
Oh and MG...I'm a sucker (I mean beta tester). So if getting free software and hardware means I have to be a sucker then oh well
Oh and MG...I'm a sucker (I mean beta tester). So if getting free software and hardware means I have to be a sucker then oh well
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Originally Posted by srika
what's the glass effect??? 
can you post a screenshot?
can you post a screenshot?
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Originally Posted by O-Town_TypeS
Not too much different than what you see but the effects are kind of cool. You notice how the task bar and menu bars are transparent?
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Originally Posted by srika
ohh.. right. xp partially supports that as well, didn't it. at least some apps did. cool thx.
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My old room mate had it on his comp for a while to check it out. I thought it looked like it was going to be pretty good. Im not a computer pro,...so I have not personally picked up the beta and tested it out etc. Do the newest beta versions have that oval clock thing still,...anyone know what I am talking about?
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Beta 2 will be a public Beta.
I have both the 32 bit and 64 bit versions.
IMO, it runs faster than XP, especially with games. Internet settings by default allow much faster webbrowsing. Also, Windows Vista has superfetching, which dramatically decreases load times for programs.
I have both the 32 bit and 64 bit versions.
IMO, it runs faster than XP, especially with games. Internet settings by default allow much faster webbrowsing. Also, Windows Vista has superfetching, which dramatically decreases load times for programs.
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I read they are bringing in one of the Xbox 360 teams to help with this process... hope we won't be seeing pop-up ads for Halo 3 in the middle of our Word docs, lol...
FULL TEXT @ THE LINK:
http://www.smarthouse.com.au/Computi...forms/R7G5G6U4
FULL TEXT @ THE LINK:
http://www.smarthouse.com.au/Computi...forms/R7G5G6U4
60% Of Windows Vista Code To Be Rewritten
David Richards - Friday, 24 March 2006
Up to 60% of the code in the new consumer version of Microsoft new Vista operating system is set to be rewritten as the Company "scrambles" to fix internal problems a Microsoft insider has confirmed to SHN.
In an effort to meet a dealine of the 2007 CES show in Las Vegas Microsoft has pulled programmers from the highly succesful Xbox team to help resolve many problems associated with entertainment and media centre functionality inside the OS. The team are also working closely with engineers from the Intel Viiv team. and it is now expected that the next version of Viiv could be delayed to line up with the launch of the consumer version of Vista at the 2007 CES Show in Las Vegas.
One of the key components of the consumer version of Vista is the Media Centre code. This will be an optional package in the same way that Microsoft currently sell a Professional and Home version of XP. With Vista there will not be a seperate Media Centre SKU.
Microsoft has also admitted that it has major problems in it's Windows division and has has immediatly initiated a total restructure of the division, a move that comes after a costly delay in rolling out its Vista program.
The company has said that it is restructuring its Platforms & Services Division and 'enhancing' the leadership team. At the heart of the changes is the elevation of Steven Sinofsky to senior vice president of the Windows and Windows Live Group. 'Steven`s leadership, management and technical skills are well documented and evident in the kinds of products he ships and the type of work environment he creates,' said Ray Ozzie, Microsoft`s chief technology officer.
'I`m looking forward to working with Steven and his team in delivering software-based services that extend the value of our offerings by providing a more seamless connection between our desktop products and the Web.' Analysts estimate that Microsoft`s delays in releasing the next generation of its operating system, known as Vista, have cost it about $500 million.
David Richards - Friday, 24 March 2006
Up to 60% of the code in the new consumer version of Microsoft new Vista operating system is set to be rewritten as the Company "scrambles" to fix internal problems a Microsoft insider has confirmed to SHN.
In an effort to meet a dealine of the 2007 CES show in Las Vegas Microsoft has pulled programmers from the highly succesful Xbox team to help resolve many problems associated with entertainment and media centre functionality inside the OS. The team are also working closely with engineers from the Intel Viiv team. and it is now expected that the next version of Viiv could be delayed to line up with the launch of the consumer version of Vista at the 2007 CES Show in Las Vegas.
One of the key components of the consumer version of Vista is the Media Centre code. This will be an optional package in the same way that Microsoft currently sell a Professional and Home version of XP. With Vista there will not be a seperate Media Centre SKU.
Microsoft has also admitted that it has major problems in it's Windows division and has has immediatly initiated a total restructure of the division, a move that comes after a costly delay in rolling out its Vista program.
The company has said that it is restructuring its Platforms & Services Division and 'enhancing' the leadership team. At the heart of the changes is the elevation of Steven Sinofsky to senior vice president of the Windows and Windows Live Group. 'Steven`s leadership, management and technical skills are well documented and evident in the kinds of products he ships and the type of work environment he creates,' said Ray Ozzie, Microsoft`s chief technology officer.
'I`m looking forward to working with Steven and his team in delivering software-based services that extend the value of our offerings by providing a more seamless connection between our desktop products and the Web.' Analysts estimate that Microsoft`s delays in releasing the next generation of its operating system, known as Vista, have cost it about $500 million.
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FWIW - Ars has a column that sort of contests the conclusions drawn by Smarthouse.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060324-6453.html
I tend to agree with the guy at Ars. If 60% of the code needed to be rewritten, you would think the delay would be a hell of a lot longer than two months.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060324-6453.html
I tend to agree with the guy at Ars. If 60% of the code needed to be rewritten, you would think the delay would be a hell of a lot longer than two months.
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
Runs fine on 512 megs of RAM on the 32 bit version.
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Originally Posted by goose25
I would imagine that to get the most out of it you'd need a gig or more. We're running it in our labs with 2G Ram and it's as smoove as butter on a freshly toasted bagel.
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Originally Posted by Billiam
FWIW - Ars has a column that sort of contests the conclusions drawn by Smarthouse.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060324-6453.html
I tend to agree with the guy at Ars. If 60% of the code needed to be rewritten, you would think the delay would be a hell of a lot longer than two months.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060324-6453.html
I tend to agree with the guy at Ars. If 60% of the code needed to be rewritten, you would think the delay would be a hell of a lot longer than two months.
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Originally Posted by Billiam
FWIW - Ars has a column that sort of contests the conclusions drawn by Smarthouse.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060324-6453.html
I tend to agree with the guy at Ars. If 60% of the code needed to be rewritten, you would think the delay would be a hell of a lot longer than two months.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060324-6453.html
I tend to agree with the guy at Ars. If 60% of the code needed to be rewritten, you would think the delay would be a hell of a lot longer than two months.
Media Center 11 and the like have been in beta for quite some time now with little issues.
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Maybe they'll have a more accurate percentage later on...
http://theinquirer.net/?article=30516
http://theinquirer.net/?article=30516
More than half of Microsoft Vista needs re-writing
Panic at the Volehill
By Nick Farrell: Friday 24 March 2006, 06:56
MICROSOFT appears to be in a state of panic, ordering 60 per cent of its new operating system to be re-written amidst a major shake-up of its troubled Windows division.
The news follows another delay with reports of a staff revolt over the way that management has handled the development of the operating system.
According to a Volish denizen speaking to smarthouse.com, orders have come down from on high to rewrite more than 60 per cent of the consumer version of Vista in a bid to get it ready for the 2007 CES show in Las Vegas.
Vole has shifted programmers from its Xbox team to help resolve many problems associated with entertainment and media centre functionality inside the OS. They are also working with Intel's Viiv team engineers and it is believed that Viiv could also be stalled to line up with Vista’s launch.
At the centre of the problem appears to be the Media Centre code which will not be optional. Apparently they cannot get it to work properly in its current format and will have to make a lot of changes to the code to jack it in.
Meanwhile Vole has moved to sort out management problems in its Windows division and restructured the lot.
Steven Sinofsky has been promoted to senior vice president of the Windows and Windows Live Group to take control of the division. He is one of the Volish "rising stars" and is famous for getting a team to work properly.
Smarthouse has dug up an internal memo on the changes from Co-President, Platforms Products & Services Division Kevin Johnson to his executive staff. He said that he had made a lot of the changes after talking to staff. One of the people who seems to have had his job changed is Johnson’s other Co-President, Platforms Products & Services Division Jim Allchin. Although his role in Vole has not changed, apparently he will have to report to Johnson from now on.
Although there are some musical chairs, no one appears to have been fired or demoted for a cock-up which has effectively cost Vole 40 per cent of five billion dollars. µ
Panic at the Volehill
By Nick Farrell: Friday 24 March 2006, 06:56
MICROSOFT appears to be in a state of panic, ordering 60 per cent of its new operating system to be re-written amidst a major shake-up of its troubled Windows division.
The news follows another delay with reports of a staff revolt over the way that management has handled the development of the operating system.
According to a Volish denizen speaking to smarthouse.com, orders have come down from on high to rewrite more than 60 per cent of the consumer version of Vista in a bid to get it ready for the 2007 CES show in Las Vegas.
Vole has shifted programmers from its Xbox team to help resolve many problems associated with entertainment and media centre functionality inside the OS. They are also working with Intel's Viiv team engineers and it is believed that Viiv could also be stalled to line up with Vista’s launch.
At the centre of the problem appears to be the Media Centre code which will not be optional. Apparently they cannot get it to work properly in its current format and will have to make a lot of changes to the code to jack it in.
Meanwhile Vole has moved to sort out management problems in its Windows division and restructured the lot.
Steven Sinofsky has been promoted to senior vice president of the Windows and Windows Live Group to take control of the division. He is one of the Volish "rising stars" and is famous for getting a team to work properly.
Smarthouse has dug up an internal memo on the changes from Co-President, Platforms Products & Services Division Kevin Johnson to his executive staff. He said that he had made a lot of the changes after talking to staff. One of the people who seems to have had his job changed is Johnson’s other Co-President, Platforms Products & Services Division Jim Allchin. Although his role in Vole has not changed, apparently he will have to report to Johnson from now on.
Although there are some musical chairs, no one appears to have been fired or demoted for a cock-up which has effectively cost Vole 40 per cent of five billion dollars. µ